OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Zool]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but had the Vikings won I thought those who were in favor of them would have taken the high road overall.

You clearly don't live in MN

[Fritz]

Players come and go and switch teams all the time. Even players who've been with one team a long time sometimes switch teams and go on, yet there seems to be little in the way of previous occurrences that matches the intensity of Packer fans' feelings about Favre.

Those on the negative side are, I think, deeply resentful of the fact that Favre played into every fan's fantasy - that the players care as much as the fans do about the franchise itself. The whole "I grew up wanting to play for Team X and now I am" fantasy. In Favre's case, he repeatedly made it clear over the years that he considered himself a Packer, that he would only play for the Packers, that if he was ever no longer wanted he'd retire because he could only envison himself as a Packer, and on and on.

People believed him. Heck, I believed him. And I know players are encouraged to say supportive things about the city and team they're in, but Favre really went over the top and seemed to really believe this was his organization, his team, and there could be no other.

If one interprets (as I do) the events of his first Packer retirement as basically manipulated by Favre to get himself out of town without having to seem the hypocrite, then you can see how many people feel absolutely betrayed.

This is one reason many posters are so glad to see him fall short.

But I think we can move on now. He's Minnesota's off season problem now, and it appears that the team and organization has given him a pass.

My prediction is that it would look a bit unseemly if he said he was staying then didn't show up for any offseason stuff and maybe even skipped the first two weeks of training camp. Thus, it would be far easier to say he's retiring, then go be retired until two weeks before the season.

One monkey wrench that could get thrown would be Minnesota drafting a QB in the first round, thus troubling Favre, who might prefer immediate help for the coming season and in addition seems amazingly insecure, given his accomplishments.

[mngolf19]

I actually believe they will trade for a QB. Before the draft. Then draft one sometime after round 1.

Thankfully I have let go of Sunday's game already and now am looking forward to the draft. I am looking at '09 as a continued trend upward for the team as they have improved every year under Chilly's watch. (whether it has to do with him or not and his first year is counted as the beginning of said trend)

[Fritz]

If they do those two things, MN, do you think this means Favre won't be coming back?

[Pugger]

"After Sunday's game, Favre staggered to the podium"

I get the whole Favre mythmaking thing. But "staggered"? Okay, "limped." "Eased himself to the podium," maybe. But "staggered"? That's not far from "grasping at the podium to keep from falling," then on to "he spoke as he duct taped his foot back onto his ankle."

Wow. It's in high gear. If only he could save a baby from being hit by a car while simultaneously talking a teenager out of committing suicide!

I saw another report that commented on the injury by noting that he left the room without a limp.

But when he left the podium after the presser after the game he was pretty gimpy doing down those couple of stairs. He held onto the railing hard. You could almost feel his pain. He really took a beating in that game.

[The Shadow]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/100126&sportCat=nfl

The Fatal Flaw

[RashanGary]

For Viking fans, I almost feel bad for them. This was their purple 4th and 26 game. It will haunt them forever - especially since they still have no championships. They were the better team on Sunday, and should have won by 10+. It took a series of impossible catastrophes to bring them down - the last one being one of the most gut wrenching things I can ever imagine watching in sports. Or as I like to say - magically delicious.

For us Packers first fans, I thought we were toast. The game was in the bag. Over. The fat lady had sung and Harlan was already hitting her up for a "ride" home. I had braced myself for the inevitable suffering that would be PackerRats. Thompson would have been vilified for trading they guy that put the Vikings in the Superbowl. It was my worst nightmare as a long time poster. I felt completely helpless. And it was absolutely going to happen.










And then it didn't.

This is hilariously true. I was feeling exactly the same way. My stomach was ill. Then, when it happened, my brother and I said it together, "this is how it was meant to end". And that was the night. A certain satisfaction that lies and extreme arrogance didn't pay off set in and nothing more had to be said.

I think Bert knows his chance is passed. He'll be lucky to even beat the ascending Packers again, let alone make the playoffs and win a playoff game again. I think this is Bert's goodbye. Him lying on the turf in pain, his dumb ass interception, the lies, the diva act. . . Favre was about to go down as the most charismatic, stand up athletes ever and instead he's going out as one of the most selfish, polarizing, arrogant athletes to ever play the game and Ted brought it all to the surface. There is no wonder BrINT hates Ted. Ted destroyed his legacy by simply treating brett like a person. BrINT couldn't handle that. In his mind, he deserved to be treated like a diva.

[pbmax]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but had the Vikings won I thought those who were in favor of them would have taken the high road overall.

You clearly don't live in MN

I think Bretsky meant those still in support of Favre on this board, not those that favor the Vikings in general.

But I am not putting anything past Gex's emoticons.

[MJZiggy]

For Viking fans, I almost feel bad for them. This was their purple 4th and 26 game. It will haunt them forever - especially since they still have no championships. They were the better team on Sunday, and should have won by 10+. It took a series of impossible catastrophes to bring them down - the last one being one of the most gut wrenching things I can ever imagine watching in sports. Or as I like to say - magically delicious.

For us Packers first fans, I thought we were toast. The game was in the bag. Over. The fat lady had sung and Harlan was already hitting her up for a "ride" home. I had braced myself for the inevitable suffering that would be PackerRats. Thompson would have been vilified for trading they guy that put the Vikings in the Superbowl. It was my worst nightmare as a long time poster. I felt completely helpless. And it was absolutely going to happen.










And then it didn't.

This is hilariously true. I was feeling exactly the same way. My stomach was ill. Then, when it happened, my brother and I said it together, "this is how it was meant to end". And that was the night. A certain satisfaction that lies and extreme arrogance didn't pay off set in and nothing more had to be said.

I think Bert knows his chance is passed. He'll be lucky to even beat the ascending Packers again, let alone make the playoffs and win a playoff game again. I think this is Bert's goodbye. Him lying on the turf in pain, his dumb ass interception, the lies, the diva act. . . Favre was about to go down as the most charismatic, stand up athletes ever and instead he's going out as one of the most selfish, polarizing, arrogant athletes to ever play the game and Ted brought it all to the surface. There is no wonder BrINT hates Ted. Ted destroyed his legacy by simply treating brett like a person. BrINT couldn't handle that. In his mind, he deserved to be treated like a diva.

He was always afraid to have stayed one year too long. I think we can trim that down to one game. Damn he paid for playing that one.

[MJZiggy]

Also, on top of that the courage,grit, and willpower to keep getting up hit after hit, play after play just cemented his ironman legacy forever.

This statement struck me. But honestly, what choice did he have at that point? He's going to come out of the NFCC game because he got hit too much?? Sit on the sidelines and cry like a man with the flu? They paid him 12 million to do whatever he had to do to get there (except maybe throw the winning drive away on an ill-advised pick).

Serious question, by the way.

[Scott Campbell]

He didn't fail, or let any fans down.

You can sure say that again. He exceeded every expectation I had for him.

[Bretsky]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but had the Vikings won I thought those who were in favor of them would have taken the high road overall.

You clearly don't live in MN

I think Bretsky meant those still in support of Favre on this board, not those that favor the Vikings in general.

But I am not putting anything past Gex's emoticons.

that would be 100% correct; if MN wins I think the posters who still enjoy the success of Brett Fave would have taken the high road so there would have been no fear of them rubbins salt in the wounds of other posters who dislike him

[Scott Campbell]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but had the Vikings won I thought those who were in favor of them would have taken the high road overall.

You clearly don't live in MN

I think Bretsky meant those still in support of Favre on this board, not those that favor the Vikings in general.

But I am not putting anything past Gex's emoticons.

that would be 100% correct; if MN wins I think the posters who still enjoy the success of Brett Fave would have taken the high road so there would have been no fear of them rubbins salt in the wounds of other posters who dislike him

That's because they're better people than the rest of us.

[GrnBay007]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but had the Vikings won I thought those who were in favor of them would have taken the high road overall.

You clearly don't live in MN

I think Bretsky meant those still in support of Favre on this board, not those that favor the Vikings in general.

But I am not putting anything past Gex's emoticons.

that would be 100% correct; if MN wins I think the posters who still enjoy the success of Brett Fave would have taken the high road so there would have been no fear of them rubbins salt in the wounds of other posters who dislike him

That's because they're better people than the rest of us.

I wouldn't say better. I'd say more compassionate and more common sense. I do agree with B though.

[gex]

Maybe I'm dead wrong, but had the Vikings won I thought those who were in favor of them would have taken the high road overall.

You clearly don't live in MN

I think Bretsky meant those still in support of Favre on this board, not those that favor the Vikings in general.

But I am not putting anything past Gex's emoticons.

that would be 100% correct; if MN wins I think the posters who still enjoy the success of Brett Fave would have taken the high road so there would have been no fear of them rubbins salt in the wounds of other posters who dislike him

That's because they're better people than the rest of us.

I wouldn't say better. I'd say more compassionate and more common sense. I do agree with B though.

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