OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[RashanGary]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

Aaron is tough though, I'll agree with that.

[mngolf19]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

Aaron is tough though, I'll agree with that.

Yeah, 41 year old guys should be taking all the hits they can. He at least would try to block people. Not many QB's will even try.

[Scott Campbell]

He at least would try to illegally block people.

Fixed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4446703

[sharpe1027]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

What you call "bravery," I'd call stupidity. The guy is as old as dirt. WTF is he supposed to do?

[Scott Campbell]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

What you call "bravery," I'd call stupidity. The guy is as old as dirt. WTF is he supposed to do?

Stay down.

[sharpe1027]

Stay down.

I'd prefer he just stayed home.

[RashanGary]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

Aaron is tough though, I'll agree with that.

Yeah, 41 year old guys should be taking all the hits they can. He at least would try to block people. Not many QB's will even try.

I agree it's smart. He made it through the year for a reason, but let's stop this charade about Favre being a warrior out there. The guy is the poster boy for self preservation.

Favre used to be a physical player playing QB but that was 15-20 years ago. Now, he's the wimpiest person on the field 100% of the time he takes the snap and he plays that way, it's not just the position.

[packerbacker1234]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

Aaron is tough though, I'll agree with that.

Yeah, 41 year old guys should be taking all the hits they can. He at least would try to block people. Not many QB's will even try.

I agree it's smart. He made it through the year for a reason, but let's stop this charade about Favre being a warrior out there. The guy is the poster boy for self preservation.

Favre used to be a physical player playing QB but that was 15-20 years ago. Now, he's the wimpiest person on the field 100% of the time he takes the snap and he plays that way, it's not just the position.

Try more like "when the Peyton Manning rule" came into affect. Then the carson palmer rule... etc etc. The fact remains, they virtually made the QB be a position of which isn't suppose to be touched.

Last year, Favre took A LOT of punishment and hits that are considered against the rules, and he got back up and kept playing. Sure, he may do a lot in his career to "avoid the big hit" - but we all forget that before these "crappy" QB rules came into play, Favre was getting hit... A LOT. He was always "buying time" and "throwing at the last moment"... and he got hit.

Even last year. There were times when he pulled a Peyton Manning - saw the sack coming and just went down. Then there were times when he moved around, avoided sacks, and made stuff happen. He just does it situationaly now, because doing that sort of stuff all game, at age 40+, just isn't a smart idea to last all season.

He is a warrior. AR took some punishment this year, sure. Favre took a lot too early. Lets see how much punishment AR takes long haul and compare to favre. because right now, Peyton Manning tops my "pussiest players" list. In fact, if he got hit ONCE like favre did in that NFC Championship game, I am not sure Manning would of came back in the game.

[Tarlam!]

I have no problem with JH's position. I don't share it one bit, especially after witnessing the punishment he took against NO last NFCCCG.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[packerbacker1234]

I have no problem with JH's position. I don't share it one bit, especially after witnessing the punishment he took against NO last NFCCCG.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Yeah, it's really just a difference in opinion. I don't even know too many YOUNG QB's who would of kept playing with that sort of punishment happening. His ankle was all f'd up, and favre was in there, injured, diving on his teammates fumbles.

Manning, when healthy, walked away from a fumble in the super bowl to "avoid getting hit". Favre also runs out and "tries" to block - note I did say he tries. Obviously, he has no idea what he is doing, but sometimes it works. At least he is going in there for his teammates.

Look, I hate to bring the hate train on Peyton - but I only do it because he is unquestionably considered the best QB in hte league, yet he has just as many super bowl appearances, and rings, as #4, and he is a complete pussy. He refused to take any sort of hit for the benefit of his team, and if he DOES get hit - it's the OL's fault (remember him throwing his OL under the bus, all but blaiming them for the playoff loss?) Favre has thrown a lot of bad passes and done some stupid stuff - but he always comes to play.

I understand the reasons to not like favre - but it's not like Peyton's actual resume is so much better. He throws less ints, more TD's,a nd more yards per season, but he hasn't gotten any better results than Favre in the playoffs.

And for as bad as "#4's pick" was in the NFCCG last year, his TEAM still ha da chance to win.

After Peyton's pick in the SB... that was the DAGGER. It still took OT to take out the vikes - it took a PM pick 6 to end the game for the colts. Just saying, while I understand the intracies of how favre's throw was just "not good" - the results were vastly different. The vikes still had a chance, the colts did not.

[Bretsky]

I watched Favre play 5 or 6 games last year. He is not a rugged football player. Outside of a few punters, kickers and backup QB's, Favre is one of the weakest, cowardly players on the field and that's not an exaggeration because I think he's a dill weed. That's jsut how he plays the game.

Aaron is tough though, I'll agree with that.

Yeah, 41 year old guys should be taking all the hits they can. He at least would try to block people. Not many QB's will even try.

Ya, rugged football players would never play hurt, would they ? They are briuttle and clearly could never make it through a season, or two, or three, or four, or five, or six, or seven, or eight, or nine, or ten, or eleven, or twelve, or thirteen, or fourteen, or fifteen, or sixteen, or seventeen seasons in a row. That's weak.

Honestly mn, I'm surprised you don't just kick back and laugh your ass off at some of the crap posted in here. It's rarely worth responding to. They should just renanme the thread a million ways to take potshots at Brett Favre for those who still carry a grudge. Many who are obsessed can't even refer to him by name anymore.

[Scott Campbell]

They should just renanme the thread a million ways to take potshots at Brett Favre for those who still carry a grudge.

I'd support that idea. Think we can get Mobb to go for it?

[Bretsky]

I've never seen Brady and Manning lay down to would be tacklers the way Favre does. Shit, might as well just bend over and take it in the ass, Bert.

I can't agree with this assessment. I've seen all 3 take on hits if plays were developing and they needed to throw late. They keep their eyes downfield and not swivelling to pick up pass rushers. I've seen all 3 tuck it in and take the sack. And what is a "would-be" tackler anyways? The only time Bert helped out in that department was to one guy to get the sack record. Bert is widely lauded for his ability to keep plays alive by escaping and flipping a ball in the most unlikely fashion. I have never read that he lays down.

All 3 of these QBs are locks for Canton and IMHO, deservedly so. I really don't get the hate. I feel priviliged to be a fan during a time when the NFL has 3 plus HOF QBs active.

I also think it assinine to on the one hand criticise Bert for taking a sack all the while criticising him for making stupid throws that turn into INTs for not taking a sack. I am no longer a fan of Bert, because IMHO, his conduct is unbefitting a professional/Packer. But I will try and evaluate his on-field activities without a G&G bias.

Great post Tarlem

But if you haven't noticed, I'm not sure logic and good common sense belongs in this thread

[Scott Campbell]

But if you haven't noticed, I'm not sure logic and good common sense belongs in this thread

If Bert used logic and common sense, we wouldn't have seen this:

[Bretsky]

But if you haven't noticed, I'm not sure logic and good common sense belongs in this thread

If Bert used logic and common sense, we wouldn't have seen this:

he's made plenty of great plays and plenty of terrible ones each year