OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Joemailman]

However, when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

I want the vikings to be good this year, simply because I don't want the division to just be handed to us. If we don't even have to earn it, how good are we really then? We wont even know until the playoffs.

I want Chicago to bounce back, and for the love of god, it would be great folr detroit to at least get to .500 at some point.

I want our division to be good - I just want us to come out on top of that pile.

Same with the big 10 - once we hit bowl season I want every single Big 10 Team to win, and if we are playing eachother, of course i have personal picks.

Bottom line is, I cheer for our division, and of course, I have a few other choice teams I like - namely the ravens. I also appreciate entertaining football - and there are lots of teams out there that highly entertain me. Favre is possibly the most entertaining player to ever play the game, and while bottom line as a fan I want to win a Super Bowl every year.... I really just want to be entertained. I watch NFL football games because it entertains me, not because I have any personal stake in any team, even the packers.

If they packers win the super bowl, it doesn't actually have any affect on my life. I do not work for the organization, I do not make any kick back for that happening. I simply get to brag to other knuckleheads that hey, were the best this year. When you break it down, as long as I am entertained, I can't complain too much.

B.S. Being in a tough division means nothing once the playoffs start. Saints had no competition in the division last year, and it didn't matter. Look, we get it. You'll cheer for whatever team Favre is playing for. You don't need to come up with rationalizations for it.

[falco]

However, when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

I want the vikings to be good this year, simply because I don't want the division to just be handed to us. If we don't even have to earn it, how good are we really then? We wont even know until the playoffs.

I want Chicago to bounce back, and for the love of god, it would be great folr detroit to at least get to .500 at some point.

I want our division to be good - I just want us to come out on top of that pile.

Same with the big 10 - once we hit bowl season I want every single Big 10 Team to win, and if we are playing eachother, of course i have personal picks.

Bottom line is, I cheer for our division, and of course, I have a few other choice teams I like - namely the ravens. I also appreciate entertaining football - and there are lots of teams out there that highly entertain me. Favre is possibly the most entertaining player to ever play the game, and while bottom line as a fan I want to win a Super Bowl every year.... I really just want to be entertained. I watch NFL football games because it entertains me, not because I have any personal stake in any team, even the packers.

If they packers win the super bowl, it doesn't actually have any affect on my life. I do not work for the organization, I do not make any kick back for that happening. I simply get to brag to other knuckleheads that hey, were the best this year. When you break it down, as long as I am entertained, I can't complain too much.

B.S. Being in a tough division means nothing once the playoffs start. Saints had no competition in the division last year, and it didn't matter. Look, we get it. You'll cheer for whatever team Favre is playing for. You don't need to come up with rationalizations for it.

If I recall, Cardinals coasted in the playoffs in 2008 too.

[packerbacker1234]

However, when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

I want the vikings to be good this year, simply because I don't want the division to just be handed to us. If we don't even have to earn it, how good are we really then? We wont even know until the playoffs.

I want Chicago to bounce back, and for the love of god, it would be great folr detroit to at least get to .500 at some point.

I want our division to be good - I just want us to come out on top of that pile.

Same with the big 10 - once we hit bowl season I want every single Big 10 Team to win, and if we are playing eachother, of course i have personal picks.

Bottom line is, I cheer for our division, and of course, I have a few other choice teams I like - namely the ravens. I also appreciate entertaining football - and there are lots of teams out there that highly entertain me. Favre is possibly the most entertaining player to ever play the game, and while bottom line as a fan I want to win a Super Bowl every year.... I really just want to be entertained. I watch NFL football games because it entertains me, not because I have any personal stake in any team, even the packers.

If they packers win the super bowl, it doesn't actually have any affect on my life. I do not work for the organization, I do not make any kick back for that happening. I simply get to brag to other knuckleheads that hey, were the best this year. When you break it down, as long as I am entertained, I can't complain too much.

B.S. Being in a tough division means nothing once the playoffs start. Saints had no competition in the division last year, and it didn't matter. Look, we get it. You'll cheer for whatever team Favre is playing for. You don't need to come up with rationalizations for it.

I rooted for the bears to beat the colts in the SB. The only time I have not wanted an NFC North team to advance was when the vikings knocked us out, which is understandable, since you often want just rewards whena division rival eliminates you.

Outside of that, I almost always want the division teams to do well in the playoffs, so long as it doesn't end my teams run. It's not about rooting for whatever team Favre is on - until the playoffs, I certainly was not rooting for the vikings. I was not rooting for them at all when we watched them go up an ddown the field on us. I was not rooting for them to take the division.

However, once we got out, what more can I do? Saints were a good story, vikings have some players I can't help but respect. Put the QB aside...

I do really like AP. I like jared allen, and despite leaving us, I like longwell too. I think their coach is tool, but I have no real anomisity against anyone on that team. It was a real torn feeling for me int he saints game. On one hand, I like brees and sharper, and I really wante dthe saints to win for their city. On the other, Favre had a chance to cap his career, and the vikings winning it all gives us even more reaosn to stomp them this year.

Yes, I support favre on the field because he is entertaining to watch. Doesn't mean I am suddenly a vikings fan because he is on the team. I really never even started rooting for them until the saints did an illegal hit on #4. When that happened, and there was not even a flag for it, I started pulling for vikings because it felt like the saints defense was playing dirty - and they were. They admitted as much.

[MJZiggy]

However, when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

I want the vikings to be good this year, simply because I don't want the division to just be handed to us. If we don't even have to earn it, how good are we really then? We wont even know until the playoffs.

I want Chicago to bounce back, and for the love of god, it would be great folr detroit to at least get to .500 at some point.

I want our division to be good - I just want us to come out on top of that pile.

Same with the big 10 - once we hit bowl season I want every single Big 10 Team to win, and if we are playing eachother, of course i have personal picks.

Bottom line is, I cheer for our division, and of course, I have a few other choice teams I like - namely the ravens. I also appreciate entertaining football - and there are lots of teams out there that highly entertain me. Favre is possibly the most entertaining player to ever play the game, and while bottom line as a fan I want to win a Super Bowl every year.... I really just want to be entertained. I watch NFL football games because it entertains me, not because I have any personal stake in any team, even the packers.

If they packers win the super bowl, it doesn't actually have any affect on my life. I do not work for the organization, I do not make any kick back for that happening. I simply get to brag to other knuckleheads that hey, were the best this year. When you break it down, as long as I am entertained, I can't complain too much.

B.S. Being in a tough division means nothing once the playoffs start. Saints had no competition in the division last year, and it didn't matter. Look, we get it. You'll cheer for whatever team Favre is playing for. You don't need to come up with rationalizations for it.

I rooted for the bears to beat the colts in the SB. The only time I have not wanted an NFC North team to advance was when the vikings knocked us out, which is understandable, since you often want just rewards whena division rival eliminates you.

Outside of that, I almost always want the division teams to do well in the playoffs, so long as it doesn't end my teams run. It's not about rooting for whatever team Favre is on - until the playoffs, I certainly was not rooting for the vikings. I was not rooting for them at all when we watched them go up an ddown the field on us. I was not rooting for them to take the division.

However, once we got out, what more can I do? Saints were a good story, vikings have some players I can't help but respect. Put the QB aside...

I do really like AP. I like jared allen, and despite leaving us, I like longwell too. I think their coach is tool, but I have no real anomisity against anyone on that team. It was a real torn feeling for me int he saints game. On one hand, I like brees and sharper, and I really wante dthe saints to win for their city. On the other, Favre had a chance to cap his career, and the vikings winning it all gives us even more reaosn to stomp them this year.

Yes, I support favre on the field because he is entertaining to watch. Doesn't mean I am suddenly a vikings fan because he is on the team. I really never even started rooting for them until the saints did an illegal hit on #4. When that happened, and there was not even a flag for it, I started pulling for vikings because it felt like the saints defense was playing dirty - and they were. They admitted as much.

I was rooting for the Colts. Much as I didn't want Manning to get it. Dungy's class overrode that sentiment and I thought he absolutely deserved the Lombardi Trophy. Everything I've ever read about the guy (and I was in Tampa at the same time he was) screamed winner.

[Freak Out]

I rooted for the bears to beat the colts in the SB.

[woodbuck27]

Just saw on sportscenter is looking like he is going to have a tough time with his ankle...

I don't wish injury upon anybody. But I hope he completely ruins his legacy by playing so poorly, that he gets put in the "didn't know when to quit" basket.

After all the drama with this guy, I doubt his legend will be in the same class as Lombardi (who left), Reggie White (who left) even Holmgren.

I hope they change Brett Favre Pass as a street name, too.

I want Favre to go on playing at least as long as Blanda did. Win two more SB's and another MVP but ' Father Time ' isn't his best friend. He may try too hard and sustain serious injury. Many of the wolves in here will relish that as they descend into the pits they fashion for themseves. hahaa. When we should realize we do have choices I constantly am amazed that some choose hatred and for a sports star.

Come on Packer fans. Smarten up. The man loves to play football-compete still. I won't dust his balls for that, but I won't stop following the Legend either.

It has to be frustrating to be a Favre hater. I'm so happy being the man I am ' an NFL fan 'with now two teams I can pull for. Geee what will I do if the Bears ever get on track?

All of this stuff we debate Re: this or that condition concerning Favre did this or didn't do that. Is entirely out of our control. We can control our emotions and keep them positive - healthy. What will some Packer fans do if he leads the Vikings to the Super Bowl while defeating the Pack 2X again this season? If in the process he pass's for more than 4000 yards and 30 TD's? Are you going to go on hating him?

He's one of the most iconic Pro athlete STARS ALL TIME. Favre's ' the most exciting ' football player on the planet all time IMO. Hate 'that' man?

Did Favre sign ** a new contract recently?

I thought I saw this week that Brett Favre signed a standard four year contract with the Vikings. Saw that on their site. Since, I tried to do a follow-up and cannot find the article RE: ** such.

[Gunakor]

What will some Packer fans do if he leads the Vikings to the Super Bowl while defeating the Pack 2X again this season?

Hate him even more. But that goes for Jay Cutler if the Bears win the division beating the Packers twice also. Same for Matthew Stafford and the Lions. If you lead your team to defeat mine TWICE, you have earned my hatred.

That said, I hope he gets humiliated by the Packers twice, misses the playoffs entirely, and runs back to his estate in Mississippi in early January with his tail between his legs and a Green Bay Packer helmet lodged so far up his ass even Dr. Andrews can't get it out. After which the Vikings organization implodes, moves to LA, and finds itself forever engulfed in the specter of mediocrity and shame. Oh, and I hope Brad Childress is their coach forever.

[Bossman641]

Just saw on sportscenter is looking like he is going to have a tough time with his ankle...

I don't wish injury upon anybody. But I hope he completely ruins his legacy by playing so poorly, that he gets put in the "didn't know when to quit" basket.

After all the drama with this guy, I doubt his legend will be in the same class as Lombardi (who left), Reggie White (who left) even Holmgren.

I hope they change Brett Favre Pass as a street name, too.

I want Favre to go on playing at least as long as Blanda did. Win two more SB's and another MVP but ' Father Time ' isn't his best friend. He may try too hard and sustain serious injury. Many of the wolves in here will relish that as they descend into the pits they fashion for themseves. hahaa. When we should realize we do have choices I constantly am amazed that some choose hatred and for a sports star.

Come on Packer fans. Smarten up. The man loves to play football-compete still. I won't dust his balls for that, but I won't stop following the Legend either.

It has to be frustrating to be a Favre hater. I'm so happy being the man I am ' an NFL fan 'with now two teams I can pull for. Geee what will I do if the Bears ever get on track?

All of this stuff we debate Re: this or that condition concerning Favre did this or didn't do that. Is entirely out of our control. We can control our emotions and keep them positive - healthy. What will some Packer fans do if he leads the Vikings to the Super Bowl while defeating the Pack 2X again this season? If in the process he pass's for more than 4000 yards and 30 TD's? Are you going to go on hating him?

He's one of the most iconic Pro athlete STARS ALL TIME. Favre's ' the most exciting ' football player on the planet all time IMO. Hate 'that' man?

Did Favre sign ** a new contract recently?

I thought I saw this week that Brett Favre signed a standard four year contract with the Vikings. Saw that on their site. Since, I tried to do a follow-up and cannot find the article RE: ** such.

Seriously, step off your fuckin soap box.

Those of us who hate the Vikings and want them to fail have always wanted them to fail. It's not like we used to wish them the best but then started to dislike them as soon as Favre went there.

I'd say that's a lot more normal and consistent then only starting to like the Vikings once Favre went there. It must be frustrating to be so easily swayed by one man.

[RashanGary]

Everyone has a right to their opinion, even if they think Favre is narcissist. Everyone has a right to their opinion even if they think he's a unique, special person who is really a notch above the rest as far as how our admiration should be doled out.

I'm no guru of spirituality, but it seems to me we cannot change other people's opinions and for all we know, they may be the ones who are right!

[Scott Campbell]

It has to be frustrating to be a Favre hater.

He made it surprisingly fulfilling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJ_K4Mlt4w

[Scott Campbell]

Here is a Rodgers story I had never heard before

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100902

4. Aaron Rodgers, Packers
2010's most savvy bet: Rodgers to win the MVP as a semi-long shot at 12-to-1 odds. Last season, he threw for 4,434 yards, 30 touchdowns and just seven picks, then nearly pulled off a historic comeback in that unforgettable Packers-Cards wild-card game (finishing with 423 passing yards, four TDs). And Green Bay's offense has "The Look" in the preseason: Everything is pointing toward a 2009 Saints-type breakout year. On a personal note, my affection for Rodgers increased exponentially at ESPN's Sundance party during the conference championships, when Rodgers and his buddies unabashedly rooted against former nemesis Favre and the Vikings down the stretch and celebrated raucously when New Orleans pulled it out. Rodgers couldn't have been more delighted; he did everything but climb on the bar and start a "F--- YOU, FAVRE!" chant. I will always root for him after that. And yes, that story is 100 percent true.

Love Rodgers

Awesome story. Just awesome. It sounds like Aaron hates him every bit as much as many of us do. Awesome.

[Joemailman]

I don't think he hates Favre. They'll likely never be friends, but I think there's some respect there. Rodgers cheering for the Saints might have had a lot to do with the fact that Rodgers and Brees are good friends. Besides, maybe like a lot of Packer fans, he just doesn't want to see the Vikings win. But that's not as good a story as saying he hates Favre.

[mraynrand]

It has to be frustrating to be a Favre hater.

He made it surprisingly fulfilling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJ_K4Mlt4w

LOL at the Foreman guy at the end. The woman in the front looks frightened. What is he smacking against the fireplace?

[mraynrand]

Food for thought?

http://redsoxfanhandbook.net/index.php?title=Roger_Clemens

"Boston fans’ love/hate relationship with Roger Clemens peaked during his years with the Yankees, but has diminished somewhat now that he’s with the Astros. Wildly popular in his first eight years in Boston, and still popular in his last years in the city, when Clemens left for Toronto blame was split between Clemens and Duquette, the GM who failed to re-sign him. When Clemens orchestrated a trade to the archrival Yankees, he became a player many fans loved to hate. Clemens was booed when he pitched badly against the Red Sox in the 1999 American League Championship Series. Perhaps the greatest highlight of the disappointing 2000 season was an epic pitching duel between Clemens and Sox ace Pedro Martinez. Clemens remains a contentious figure in Boston, sometimes booed, sometimes cheered, but always drawing attention."

[Tarlam!]

A contentious figure? Great description of Bert.