OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[MOBB DEEP]

I hope they change Brett Favre Pass as a street name, too.

They could change it to "Waffle Way"

Or....

Drama Drive

Traitor Trail?

[MOBB DEEP]

does anyone know if chilly plans to play the geezer tonight?

amazing that ALL nfl teams play final game tonight...

[ThunderDan]

does anyone know if chilly plans to play the geezer tonight?

amazing that ALL nfl teams play final game tonight...

It gives them the time needed to break down film and evaluate players before the roster cut on Saturday.

[Scott Campbell]

does anyone know if chilly plans to play the geezer tonight?

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I don't think so.

[denverYooper]

does anyone know if chilly plans to play the geezer tonight?

amazing that ALL nfl teams play final game tonight...

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Dunno, but it's vs. Denver so it'll be on here.

[packerbacker1234]

I find more and more that while I am definitely a packers fan througha nd through, I want us to win the SB every season, win the division every year, etc...

I am adopting the college football mentality. I fucking "hate" Ohio State, hate Michigan, and now Iowa gets on my nerves simply because they keep ruining the badgers dreams every year.

However, when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

I want the vikings to be good this year, simply because I don't want the division to just be handed to us. If we don't even have to earn it, how good are we really then? We wont even know until the playoffs.

I want Chicago to bounce back, and for the love of god, it would be great folr detroit to at least get to .500 at some point.

I want our division to be good - I just want us to come out on top of that pile.

Same with the big 10 - once we hit bowl season I want every single Big 10 Team to win, and if we are playing eachother, of course i have personal picks.

Bottom line is, I cheer for our division, and of course, I have a few other choice teams I like - namely the ravens. I also appreciate entertaining football - and there are lots of teams out there that highly entertain me. Favre is possibly the most entertaining player to ever play the game, and while bottom line as a fan I want to win a Super Bowl every year.... I really just want to be entertained. I watch NFL football games because it entertains me, not because I have any personal stake in any team, even the packers.

If they packers win the super bowl, it doesn't actually have any affect on my life. I do not work for the organization, I do not make any kick back for that happening. I simply get to brag to other knuckleheads that hey, were the best this year. When you break it down, as long as I am entertained, I can't complain too much.

[Tarlam!]

when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football,

I agree and loudly supported chicago, and got heat for it.

Yet, I wish Bert personally failure.

[falco]

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

Nothing personal, but this is the biggest line of crap I've ever heard. Nobody says 'so and so' won the Super Bowl, but they came from a crappy division so it doesn't count.

Also, the better our teams are in our own division, the less likely we are to get home field advantage, which means less post season success. Additionally, this has nothing to with rooting for division rivals in the playoffs.

[imscott72]

I want the division to be solid yes, but I will never cheer for Chicago or Minnesota. I just can't do it. Just like in baseball you'll never see me cheer for the Cardinals or Cubs. I'm way too loyal.

[packerbacker1234]

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

Nothing personal, but this is the biggest line of crap I've ever heard. Nobody says 'so and so' won the Super Bowl, but they came from a crappy division so it doesn't count.

Also, the better our teams are in our own division, the less likely we are to get home field advantage, which means less post season success. Additionally, this has nothing to with rooting for division rivals in the playoffs.

I didn't say that either. Playing better compitition during the regular season can help prepare your team for the sort of teams and games they are going to face in the post season. Hence, playing in a division full of elite teams - if your the team that coems out on top, should help prepare you for what your going to face in the playoffs.

I am not saying that is the only reason for anything, or that a SB counts less because your division sucked when you won it. I personally think if the division provides better competition, it gives you a much stronger chance of post season success. I could also care less about home field advantage anymore.

Were a pass first team. You ask me, we would do better on the road in warmer climate or a dome. All these plays with WR's open all over, rodgers scrambling for TD's - that stuff more than likely isn't happening in cold and snow. Teams that can run and play stellar defense will knock us off at home int hat enviroment, and were not a run first offense. Honestly, I would love to have home field, but realistically, we may actually have a better chance of advancing on the road.

[Merlin]

I was actually thinking along the lines of Packerbacker1234's first post - gee, isn't that everyone's strategy for every QB? - when I read Patler's and Lurker's assessments. And they both explain it well.

So I agree with them - this is, in some respects, a new strategy.

As for Packerbacker's claim that Favre has finally learned to play smartly, may I be the first to politely suggest that you go back and take a look at the last pass Favre threw last season?

SUre it was a poor decision, but of any time in his career to make a bad choice, that was one time I just can't blame him per say. THere was a penalty the play before that even put the ball in his hands, he already HAD THEM in position to win with what is a easily makeable FG for Longwell, and the coaches screwed that one up.

The pass was a bad decision, but the man was beaten. All day long. He played very well, especially given the damaging, and illegal, hits he was taking. He should of ran, should of thrown it away, should of never one back across his body - but man, I was surprised he was still standing at that point. They already had the game won and the coaches fuck up was far more inexcusable than favre's. You do NOT get a 12 man in the huddle penalty when your in game winning FG range. Ever. There is no excuse. At least favre can say he was "trying to make a play".


Seriously, if I am a vikings fan, I would of been calling for the OC's head for that 12 man penalty, or whoever the fuck was in control of it, be it childress, or whatever> just like against philly for us the one year on 4th and 27 - I blame the defensive coordinator for that loss, not favre. Favre should not be required to win you every game, especially after he already did what he needed to do TO win.

I finally got to this thread. A thread that showcases the worst in some people that just don't and never will get it. That being that it's surely a Packer forum and was once an awesome Packer Forum that's in a decline based on it's history. Why? Maybe because of attacks against those of us that still love the Packers and equally love the game of football, and the brand or style of football played in the NFL. Are we supposed to ignore those with insults

I love sports generally. I've followed the teams that Vladimir Guerrero plays on in MLB, since he was a Montreal Expo. The Angels and now Texans. I have been too busy of late to check his progress this season but know the the Texans are a near lock to win their division. I always followed the teams that the Big 'M' ( Frank Mahovlich) played on. The Toronto Maple Leafs, Detroit Red Wings and Montreal Canadians in the NHL. I play golf as a lefty so I follow Phil Michelson and Mike Weir and staynloyal to these men no matter how they are playing.

I have followed the Green Bay packers ups and long periods of downs likely longer than any member of Packer Rats. That began way back in 1958 or just before the Vince Lombardi Era. I'm pleased that the Green Bay Packers are picked as a team to contend this season as we're in somewhat of a drought. I love the drama in sports and the Brett Favre story certainly fills my appetite there.

Brett Favre has given me more awesome thrills than any other Pro athlete. I remain loyal to Brett Favre as an NFL fan but:

If Aaron Rodgers and the Packers can get tit together and jump over the Favre led Vikings.? That won't disappoint me.

Wherer I get to shaking my head is when posters here are attacked or called out to choose 'all Packers' over football and the excitement and drama as part and partial of the NFL.

I was once the leading poster on this forum in terms of number of posts. I have received incredible criticism from many no longer here now. Amongst that group I deem there was a consistency. They were moderately toincorrigibly insulting and / or abusive to anyone that didn't hate Brett Favre.

I'm in some sadness to see the likes of Rastak gone from PackerRats. He was golden here and that as a Vikings fan. Who in their right ming could post in a manner that would cause Rastak to retire from PackerRats? To read that Bretsky isn"t as active or gone fr. Packerrats, is just plain ugly. B. was one of my favourite posters here. He's gone!!? WTF. Grnbay007 gone. Give me a break! She was a real Lady and an awesome Packer fan and support for our forum. These three posters all wonderful contributors and if thet stay away ? Anyone of those three or any poster with proper style and manners. WE all must share that fact as BLAME.

On the topic of Brett Favre and his mobility:

That man is still playing in the 40/41st year of his life! He was incredible overall last season setting big personal numbers. Some of you point to the obvious. He has to slow down or not run outside of the pocket. The issues that appear to me as obvious in terms of Favre and scrabling or not. How good is his OL in any given game?

The Vikings had an ugly game plan at half time in terms wih it's OL. Favre was getting killed. Vikings HC Brad Childress was livid with hiS OL'S UGLY Performance. Some of you Packer fans can point out just another end of game pick against Brett Favre.

As an NFL fan and keen in my support of a great game between two opponets Favre and the Vikings didn't disappoint. I'd love to see the Vikings play us in the NFC Championship game. I realize that's a longshot.

Also I cheer this way: I want Favre to play well and the same goes for Aaron Rodgers.

Let the BEST team win !

On the matter of losing members:

I'll lay it out there again: I'm shamed that Bretzky, GrnBay007 and Rastak are gone. I might have helped them hang in there but sooner than later anyone abused let's go except for men as I am. I'm certainly not implying that I'm better/ stronger than those three fine and overall active and contributing posters. It was up to the Administrator of PackerRats to take whatever step was necessary before we lost such quality posters/people. That step had to be something other than the illimination of this thread as that would have been scapegoating or ... to the abusers.

My name is Ed. woodbuck27

Nice post. I watch Favre for what he brings to the game, I don't cheer for any team unless the Packers are out of the playoffs. Last year it ended up being Minnesota, then New Orleans. I want our division to be the best in the league, I want Chicago, Detroit, and Minnesota to be highly competitive. I as many have said, don't want the division handed to us and let's face it, the NFC North has had some pretty bad years. Right now the NFC West looks like it is coming our of it's slump. The better the teams in the NFC North do, the better it makes the Packers when we beat them. I don't know how Favre and the Vikings will do and I hope the Packers extract some revenge this year, however that revenge runs both way and the rivalry between these 2 teams is always a good game and the winner is never predetermined.

I don't post much at all anymore although I do read a lot of posts. The bottom line for me is that if anyone disagrees with anything, it instantly becomes a personal attack instead of a friendly exchange of views. Life is too short for me to waste my time and yours, so I don't post much.

[ThunderDan]

I find more and more that while I am definitely a packers fan througha nd through, I want us to win the SB every season, win the division every year, etc...

I am adopting the college football mentality. I fucking "hate" Ohio State, hate Michigan, and now Iowa gets on my nerves simply because they keep ruining the badgers dreams every year.

However, when it gets to the post season play, I cheer for our division. I cheer for the NFC North.

I want us to be considered the best division in football, because that means when the packers win it, it makes us appear that much better. Also the better the other teams are in our own division, the better we must become, which will lead to better post season success.

I want the vikings to be good this year, simply because I don't want the division to just be handed to us. If we don't even have to earn it, how good are we really then? We wont even know until the playoffs.

I want Chicago to bounce back, and for the love of god, it would be great folr detroit to at least get to .500 at some point.

I want our division to be good - I just want us to come out on top of that pile.

Same with the big 10 - once we hit bowl season I want every single Big 10 Team to win, and if we are playing eachother, of course i have personal picks.

Bottom line is, I cheer for our division, and of course, I have a few other choice teams I like - namely the ravens. I also appreciate entertaining football - and there are lots of teams out there that highly entertain me. Favre is possibly the most entertaining player to ever play the game, and while bottom line as a fan I want to win a Super Bowl every year.... I really just want to be entertained. I watch NFL football games because it entertains me, not because I have any personal stake in any team, even the packers.

If they packers win the super bowl, it doesn't actually have any affect on my life. I do not work for the organization, I do not make any kick back for that happening. I simply get to brag to other knuckleheads that hey, were the best this year. When you break it down, as long as I am entertained, I can't complain too much.

I also root for the Big Ten in bowl games but the college game has no playoffs so the Badgers will never have to play another Big Ten team in a bowl game.

If the Packers win the North it sure the hell wont because the lucked into it. Even if we go 6-0 in the North we need to win 4 or so other games.

We would have to beat some combination of:
NYG, WASH, DAL, PHI
NE, NYJ, MIA, BUF
ATL, SF

I see 1 cupcake game in there and it would be BUF.

[Fritz]

I spend so much emotional energy hating on certain teams that there's no way I can ever root for them. I frickin' hate the Bears. the Vikes, and the Lions (yes I do), so I can't root for any of them in the playoffs. Fuggem and the horse they rode in on.

Nor can I, under any circumstances, root for the Cowboys. If for example the Cowgirls play the Queens in a playoff game, I hope they both lose. I'll watch the game and hope every pass is dropped, every player misses tackles, and they generally suck the kind of goat testicles best described by Mr. Skin Basket.

[Pugger]

I spend so much emotional energy hating on certain teams that there's no way I can ever root for them. I frickin' hate the Bears. the Vikes, and the Lions (yes I do), so I can't root for any of them in the playoffs. Fuggem and the horse they rode in on.

Nor can I, under any circumstances, root for the Cowboys. If for example the Cowgirls play the Queens in a playoff game, I hope they both lose. I'll watch the game and hope every pass is dropped, every player misses tackles, and they generally suck the kind of goat testicles best described by Mr. Skin Basket.

+1

[Bossman641]

Here is a Rodgers story I had never heard before

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100902

4. Aaron Rodgers, Packers
2010's most savvy bet: Rodgers to win the MVP as a semi-long shot at 12-to-1 odds. Last season, he threw for 4,434 yards, 30 touchdowns and just seven picks, then nearly pulled off a historic comeback in that unforgettable Packers-Cards wild-card game (finishing with 423 passing yards, four TDs). And Green Bay's offense has "The Look" in the preseason: Everything is pointing toward a 2009 Saints-type breakout year. On a personal note, my affection for Rodgers increased exponentially at ESPN's Sundance party during the conference championships, when Rodgers and his buddies unabashedly rooted against former nemesis Favre and the Vikings down the stretch and celebrated raucously when New Orleans pulled it out. Rodgers couldn't have been more delighted; he did everything but climb on the bar and start a "F--- YOU, FAVRE!" chant. I will always root for him after that. And yes, that story is 100 percent true.

Love Rodgers