He.... Had.... Plenty.... Of.... Time.... To.... Throw....

[Noodle]

On the "why no roll-outs" thing, a couple of points.

Because the pocket was getting pinched on the outside as well as collapsed from the inside, Arod didn't have much chance to escape by scampering outside. He was fenced in.

I'm guessing MM wants Arod to work on his pocket presence and feel. They probably already know the guy can scoot and shoot. What he needs to develop is the sense for how long he can hold on to the ball in the pocket. So I think it's smart at this point to have him learn his trade.

Finally, I'm also guessing MM is keepin' it vanilla at this point. No need to show the Vikes how the protection moves with a roll out. The rat fink bastards.

[Carolina_Packer]

You just hope for something more positive coming out of the last two games to build on for the season. You don't doubt to creep in before week 1. I think they will shake off the piss poor performance from the other night and have two fairly good games. The record doesn't matter. As long as their heads are held up. It only matters how they bust out of the gate in week 1 and beyond. As long as they are ready, who cares if they win these games. Just don't get mauled by the likes of San Fran again.

[bobblehead]

Excuses are for losers. Make a play to create time.

I agree 100%.....why did favre throw more picks than any QB in history again?? Why is he the all time turnover leader in the NFL history??

[KYPack]

On the "why no roll-outs" thing, a couple of points.

Because the pocket was getting pinched on the outside as well as collapsed from the inside, Arod didn't have much chance to escape by scampering outside. He was fenced in.

I'm guessing MM wants Arod to work on his pocket presence and feel. They probably already know the guy can scoot and shoot. What he needs to develop is the sense for how long he can hold on to the ball in the pocket. So I think it's smart at this point to have him learn his trade.

Finally, I'm also guessing MM is keepin' it vanilla at this point. No need to show the Vikes how the protection moves with a roll out. The rat fink bastards.

Noodle for leader.

The tackles had bad games, too.

Happened last season early. It'll take awhile to get this thing in gear.

Meanwhile, we all gotta suffer.

[Pugger]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

[Bretsky]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

Ah just win a dam Super Bowl already and we'll all love AROD

[Pacopete4]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

Ah just win a dam Super Bowl already and we'll all love AROD

Perfect solution... win 2 and you'll have some on here telling us he's better than Brett ever was..

[channtheman]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

Ah just win a dam Super Bowl already and we'll all love AROD

Perfect solution... win 2 and you'll have some on here telling us he's better than Brett ever was..

Which if he were able to do so wouldn't necessarily be so far fetched. Good QB's lead their team to the playoffs year after year. Great QB's win Superbowls.

[Gunakor]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

Ah just win a dam Super Bowl already and we'll all love AROD

Just a question for ya B. Suppose Favre would have lost to the Pats in XXXI. He'd still be the all time leader in damn near every QB catagory, but would not have a ring to show for it. Would we still love Favre? I mean, Dolphins fans still love Marino, even though he never won the big one. Does Rodgers HAVE to win a SB for us to love him, or does he just have to play well?

[Pacopete4]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

Ah just win a dam Super Bowl already and we'll all love AROD

Just a question for ya B. Suppose Favre would have lost to the Pats in XXXI. He'd still be the all time leader in damn near every QB catagory, but would not have a ring to show for it. Would we still love Favre? I mean, Dolphins fans still love Marino, even though he never won the big one. Does Rodgers HAVE to win a SB for us to love him, or does he just have to play well?

I think judging QB's on superbowl wins is absolutely absurd... why don't we judge other positions on SB rings? It's a double standard.

Your top 3 passers this games seen are Favre, Elway, Marino in no order, and thats that...

[Chevelle2]

I have a feeling nothing Aaron does will make some folks happy. He'll be blasted even if he wins because he doesn't yet have Favre's pocket awareness. He'll be scorned if he gets sacked. God help him if he throws a pick. This will continue as long as BF plays, so we only have to put up with threads calling AR a bust for only one season...

Ah just win a dam Super Bowl already and we'll all love AROD

Just a question for ya B. Suppose Favre would have lost to the Pats in XXXI. He'd still be the all time leader in damn near every QB catagory, but would not have a ring to show for it. Would we still love Favre? I mean, Dolphins fans still love Marino, even though he never won the big one. Does Rodgers HAVE to win a SB for us to love him, or does he just have to play well?

I think judging QB's on superbowl wins is absolutely absurd... why don't we judge other positions on SB rings? It's a double standard.

Your top 3 passers this games seen are Favre, Elway, Marino in no order, and thats that...

Try, Unitas, Manning, then Favre. In that order.

[Chevelle2]

And how the hell is Elway on that list?

[Gunakor]

Your top 3 passers this games seen are Favre, Elway, Marino in no order, and thats that...

Try, Unitas, Manning, then Favre. In that order.

Agreed that Unitas is the best of all time. But I'd put Brady over Manning, and neither of them would be second IMO. Marino threw a prettier ball, Otto Graham won a much higher percentage of games, etc. It's highly subjective, so I can't really decide who the next best after Unitas is. But I don't think it's Manning or Brady.

[Chevelle2]

Your top 3 passers this games seen are Favre, Elway, Marino in no order, and thats that...

Try, Unitas, Manning, then Favre. In that order.

Agreed that Unitas is the best of all time. But I'd put Brady over Manning, and neither of them would be second IMO. Marino threw a prettier ball, Otto Graham won a much higher percentage of games, etc. It's highly subjective, so I can't really decide who the next best after Unitas is. But I don't think it's Manning or Brady.

I do agree with you - its highly subjective....but Elway? Cmon Paco, i know you can do better.

[Zool]

Your top 3 passers this games seen are Favre, Elway, Marino in no order, and thats that...

Try, Unitas, Manning, then Favre. In that order.

Agreed that Unitas is the best of all time. But I'd put Brady over Manning, and neither of them would be second IMO. Marino threw a prettier ball, Otto Graham won a much higher percentage of games, etc. It's highly subjective, so I can't really decide who the next best after Unitas is. But I don't think it's Manning or Brady.

I do agree with you - its highly subjective....but Elway? Cmon Paco, i know you can do better.

I know quite a few Bronco fans, and they all say "Favre, not even in the top 10".