NFL Scouts Rank Rodgers 19th in NFL

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Scouts also thought Mandarich was a can't miss prospect, Driver would never make it, Brady sucked, Ryan Leaf was unstoppable, Marques Colston wasn't good, Reggie Bush would light up the league like he did at USC...

I think you get my point

It's a lot harder evaluating a college player versus someone who has played in the ranks of the NFL, don't you say? Once you see and have footage of how someone matches up with real world NFL players, its a heck of a lot easier to judge,

Do you agree?

I agree to a point. 14 starts and a few mop-up appearances prior to that is not enough to project a career, especially for a guy like Rodgers who appears bright, hard-working, and willing to learn. He has enough playing time to where we can critique where he is at right now, but not enough for us to point out his weak tendencies or the things he will always struggle with.

In the article, how the hell did scouts rank VY ahead of Rodgers as of right now? Really? They'd rather have the guy who has contemplated quitting football multiple times and asked to be taken out of the game? Maybe in the future when he rededicates himself, but right now, no way.

Work ethic aside, give me Young any day of the week over Rodgers. You can learn athleticism.

Concrete proof that you are indeed an ignorant troll. Only one of those would take Young over Rodgers.

Right. I'm sure I'm the only person in the world who would take someone who has never had a losing record, won awards, and took a team to the playoffs over this

[sharpe1027]

Right. I'm sure I'm the only person in the world who would take someone who has never had a losing record, won awards, and took a team to the playoffs over this

Spin doctor.

I'm sure I'm the only person in the world who would not take a QB that is currently benched in favor of an over-the-hill QB that has never been anything but average.

[cpk1994]

Scouts also thought Mandarich was a can't miss prospect, Driver would never make it, Brady sucked, Ryan Leaf was unstoppable, Marques Colston wasn't good, Reggie Bush would light up the league like he did at USC...

I think you get my point

It's a lot harder evaluating a college player versus someone who has played in the ranks of the NFL, don't you say? Once you see and have footage of how someone matches up with real world NFL players, its a heck of a lot easier to judge,

Do you agree?

I agree to a point. 14 starts and a few mop-up appearances prior to that is not enough to project a career, especially for a guy like Rodgers who appears bright, hard-working, and willing to learn. He has enough playing time to where we can critique where he is at right now, but not enough for us to point out his weak tendencies or the things he will always struggle with.

In the article, how the hell did scouts rank VY ahead of Rodgers as of right now? Really? They'd rather have the guy who has contemplated quitting football multiple times and asked to be taken out of the game? Maybe in the future when he rededicates himself, but right now, no way.

Work ethic aside, give me Young any day of the week over Rodgers. You can learn athleticism.

Concrete proof that you are indeed an ignorant troll. Only one of those would take Young over Rodgers.

Right. I'm sure I'm the only person in the world who would take someone who has never had a losing record, won awards, and took a team to the playoffs over this

PLease. Young is a BACKUP becuase he has emotional problems and is sitting at home sulking while mommy yells at everyone to quit picking on her baby, while Rodgers is starting every game and is going to pile up close to 4000 yards after having to put up with Favre bullshit temper tantrums. We know you hate Rodgers and continue to bash him and that is the ONLY reason you would take Young.

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Scouts also thought Mandarich was a can't miss prospect, Driver would never make it, Brady sucked, Ryan Leaf was unstoppable, Marques Colston wasn't good, Reggie Bush would light up the league like he did at USC...

I think you get my point

It's a lot harder evaluating a college player versus someone who has played in the ranks of the NFL, don't you say? Once you see and have footage of how someone matches up with real world NFL players, its a heck of a lot easier to judge,

Do you agree?

I agree to a point. 14 starts and a few mop-up appearances prior to that is not enough to project a career, especially for a guy like Rodgers who appears bright, hard-working, and willing to learn. He has enough playing time to where we can critique where he is at right now, but not enough for us to point out his weak tendencies or the things he will always struggle with.

In the article, how the hell did scouts rank VY ahead of Rodgers as of right now? Really? They'd rather have the guy who has contemplated quitting football multiple times and asked to be taken out of the game? Maybe in the future when he rededicates himself, but right now, no way.

Work ethic aside, give me Young any day of the week over Rodgers. You can learn athleticism.

Concrete proof that you are indeed an ignorant troll. Only one of those would take Young over Rodgers.

Right. I'm sure I'm the only person in the world who would take someone who has never had a losing record, won awards, and took a team to the playoffs over this

PLease. Young is a BACKUP becuase he has emotional problems and is sitting at home sulking while mommy yells at everyone to quit picking on her baby, while Rodgers is starting every game and is going to pile up close to 4000 yards after having to put up with Favre bullshit temper tantrums. We know you hate Rodgers and continue to bash him and that is the ONLY reason you would take Young.

I don't hate Rodgers. If you could read and comprehend that some people look at things with G&G goggles, and some look through objective lens without any false intentions, that he is playing average.

Yes.. Young is the backup right now. He was the starter this year and had some emotional trouble. They are committed to Young moving forward, and the only reason he isn't starting now is for the sake of continuity. Young himself said he wants to be starting and is ready to play.

I don't see what is appropriate about picking on a person who has depression. It's not his fault. It's something he has to work through.

I would take Young because:
- He is bigger
- He is faster
- He is stronger
- He is more athletic
- He is a proven winner
- He has a good enough arm

Rodgers has a more powerful and more accurate arm, but give me the guy with superstar potential over the guy with maybe around the 10th best in the league potential. Rodgers doesn't have the raw skill set that Young has, and that is something you cannot learn.

Rodgers may be the better passing quarterback right now, but Young has gotten it done with passing, running, etc. He has shown a knack for making the big play to WIN games. He single-handedly beat the mighty Trojans, he was dominant as a ROOKIE (re: not average to slightly above average as a 4th year player), and while his passing numbers were not great his sophomore year, he still made plenty of plays and carried his team to the playoffs.

I'm not bashing Rodgers here, but I'm sure you'll interpret it that way. VY is a rare specimen, and that is why he went top 3 in the draft. There is an obvious reason that ARod fell as far as he did. Young is a freak.

[Bretsky]

Young is a nut case; no way I want him as any part of my team right now

The word unreliable is the first thought that comes to mind
Erratic would be the second

[sharpe1027]

They are committed to Young moving forward, and the only reason he isn't starting now is for the sake of continuity. Young himself said he wants to be starting and is ready to play.

I bet he starts less than half their games next year.

[ThunderDan]

I can't believe that Eli Manning is rated above Rodgers.

The 2008 season is the first time in his career where his passer rating is going to be above 80.

His career stats are:
72 games 1,265/2,265 for 55.8% 14,504 yards or 201.4 yards per game 98 touchdowns 74 interceptions 76.1 passer rating

Giants fans were calling for his head in 2007.Even playing out of his mind the last 6 weeks of the regular season in 2007 his passer rating was 73.9 for the year.

Eli Manning is money. He is a young up-and-comer. H played the perfect pats as well as anybody, then won three road games in the playoffs than beat the Perfect Pats in the rematch. That is a hell of a 5 game stint at QB.

He doesn't have anyone to throw the ball to this year. Plax has been banged up all year. He's carrying a team on his back. That team is his.

If he has no one to throw the ball to why is passer rating this year the highest by far for his whole career?

Do you realize the Giants average 197 yards passing per game? They are averaging 158.9 yards per game runnning. That's less than a 40 yard difference.

The reason the Giants are winning has little to do with Manning and a hell of a lot more to do with the offensive line and running backs.

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I can't believe that Eli Manning is rated above Rodgers.

The 2008 season is the first time in his career where his passer rating is going to be above 80.

His career stats are:
72 games 1,265/2,265 for 55.8% 14,504 yards or 201.4 yards per game 98 touchdowns 74 interceptions 76.1 passer rating

Giants fans were calling for his head in 2007.Even playing out of his mind the last 6 weeks of the regular season in 2007 his passer rating was 73.9 for the year.

Eli Manning is money. He is a young up-and-comer. H played the perfect pats as well as anybody, then won three road games in the playoffs than beat the Perfect Pats in the rematch. That is a hell of a 5 game stint at QB.

He doesn't have anyone to throw the ball to this year. Plax has been banged up all year. He's carrying a team on his back. That team is his.

If he has no one to throw the ball to why is passer rating this year the highest by far for his whole career?

Do you realize the Giants average 197 yards passing per game? They are averaging 158.9 yards per game runnning. That's less than a 40 yard difference.

The reason the Giants are winning has little to do with Manning and a hell of a lot more to do with the offensive line and running backs.

Would there running game be as effective with a journeyman back there? ROFL... how quick people forget. Dude is lights out throwing the ball imo. Took him awhile to grasp everything, but he is coming into his own now.

Who cares how many yards he passes for? The ideal offense NEVEr passes the rock imo.

[Zool]

Would there running game be as effective with a journeyman back there? ROFL... how quick people forget. Dude is lights out throwing the ball imo. Took him awhile to grasp everything, but he is coming into his own now.

Who cares how many yards he passes for? The ideal offense NEVEr passes the rock imo.

You are one crazy conundrum P, I'll give you that.

[Patler]

Partial, you are fascinated with the Jeff Georges of the world and fail to recognize the value of a Matt Hasselbeck.

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Partial, you are fascinated with the Jeff Georges of the world and fail to recognize the value of a Matt Hasselbeck.

Are you kidding me? Hass is one of my favorite players and one of the best QBs in the NFL. Comparing Rodgers to Hass is foolish. Also, while a very good quarterback, he has never won a superbowl because he isn't a special playmaker back there.

Some of you guys ignore results and that bothers me. Vince Young has carried a team on his back and WON. Eli Manning has carried a team on his back and WON. Matt Hassellback has carried a team on his back and WON. Will Aaron? That remains to be seen, but to this point the answer is a resounding No.

[Zool]

Are you kidding me? Hass is one of my favorite players and one of the best QBs in the NFL. Comparing Rodgers to Hass is foolish. Also, while a very good quarterback, he has never won a superbowl because he isn't a special playmaker back there.

Some of you guys ignore results and that bothers me. Vince Young has carried a team on his back and WON. Eli Manning has carried a team on his back and WON. Matt Hassellback has carried a team on his back and WON. Will Aaron? That remains to be seen, but to this point the answer is a resounding No.

Took him awhile to grasp everything, but he is coming into his own now.

You give other QB's time but Rodgers gets none.

[Patler]

Partial, you are fascinated with the Jeff Georges of the world and fail to recognize the value of a Matt Hasselbeck.

Are you kidding me? Hass is one of my favorite players and one of the best QBs in the NFL. Comparing Rodgers to Hass is foolish. Also, while a very good quarterback, he has never won a superbowl because he isn't a special playmaker back there.

Some of you guys ignore results and that bothers me. Vince Young has carried a team on his back and WON. Eli Manning has carried a team on his back and WON. Matt Hassellback has carried a team on his back and WON. Will Aaron? That remains to be seen, but to this point the answer is a resounding No.

I wasn't really comparing Rodgers to Hasselback any more than I was comparing Vince Young to Jeff George. Or are you now admitting that Young is a Jeff George in the making?

I was just pointing out that you seem fascinated with the immense physical talent some guys possess, and value that over the more cerebral approach of others.

BUT....now that you mention it. There are some strong similarities between Rodgers' and Hasselbeck's early careers. Several years without playing, first year play showing promise but not consistency. Remember that Hasselbeck got benched in Seattle after becoming their starter. Both like to run a bit, etc.

[Patler]

Some of you guys ignore results and that bothers me. Vince Young has carried a team on his back and WON.

??????? "....carried a team on his back....." When was that? Certainly not in the NFL.

[Bossman641]

Partial, you are fascinated with the Jeff Georges of the world and fail to recognize the value of a Matt Hasselbeck.

Are you kidding me? Hass is one of my favorite players and one of the best QBs in the NFL. Comparing Rodgers to Hass is foolish. Also, while a very good quarterback, he has never won a superbowl because he isn't a special playmaker back there.

Some of you guys ignore results and that bothers me. Vince Young has carried a team on his back and WON. Eli Manning has carried a team on his back and WON. Matt Hassellback has carried a team on his back and WON. Will Aaron? That remains to be seen, but to this point the answer is a resounding No.

The Titans carried VY more than he carried them.

By your standards, Grossman carried the Bears to the SB right?