"Retirement" all part of a plan?

[Patler]

For all the skeptics out there:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

It is an easy one to support:
Favre wanted his release last year, but he could not force the Packers hand to get it.
There is already a rumor that Favre's agent asked the Jets to release him.
Favre has said that his reason to retire (his arm) could change over the summer.
Favre likely CAN force the Jets to release him in late summer.

[Fritz]

I just read the same blog, Patler. Here's the part that caught my eye:

", Favre's agent, James "Bus" Cook, "informally discussed the option of releasing Favre" but "the Jets respectfully declined that option, a source said."

Up to this point, the only point that had come out was that cook had "discussed the option," which is different than asking the team directly to release Favre.

However, that new line - "the Jets respectfully declined that option" - if true suggests that Cook out-and-out asked the Jets to release Favre. You can't decline an option unless someone asks you to take it.

This, plus Favre saying he can't be sure how his arm will feel, does add fuel to the fire for those who might be skeptical. The pieces are in place that could potentially allow Favre to find his way to another team, say, one whose jerseys are purple.

I'm just putting it out there. It's the slow news season, after all.

[sheepshead]

Florio says Favre filed his papers this time. This tells me something...or nothing. But, could we see Brett waiting until the Jets fill his spot. Then he asks for his release. First flight to Minneapolis.

[cpk1994]

Florio says Favre filed his papers this time. This tells me something...or nothing. But, could we see Brett waiting until the Jets fill his spot. Then he asks for his release. First flight to Minneapolis.

Problem is, he has to file his reinstatement papers and then the Jets will have to make a decision. And you are making a mighty assuption that the Vikings would even want anything to do with him now, especially with the admission that Favre regresses late in the season.

[cpk1994]

Re: "Retirement" all part of a plan?

For all the skeptics out there:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

It is an easy one to support:
Favre wanted his release last year, but he could not force the Packers hand to get it.
There is already a rumor that Favre's agent asked the Jets to release him.
Favre has said that his reason to retire (his arm) could change over the summer.
Favre likely CAN force the Jets to release him in late summer.

Favre cna't force the Jets to do squat. THe Jets can make moves to get Favre under the cap.

[Patler]

Re: "Retirement" all part of a plan?

For all the skeptics out there:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

It is an easy one to support:
Favre wanted his release last year, but he could not force the Packers hand to get it.
There is already a rumor that Favre's agent asked the Jets to release him.
Favre has said that his reason to retire (his arm) could change over the summer.
Favre likely CAN force the Jets to release him in late summer.

Favre cna't force the Jets to do squat. THe Jets can make moves to get Favre under the cap.

Well sure they can, but that is the point. The Jets would have to make a lot of moves to absorb his $13 million cap amount, because they will be floating near the cap through out the summer, most likely. It will take a lot of significant moves by them to work Favre under the cap, and would they want to do that just before training camp, for example? He can't be 100% sure that they would release him, but after making the adjustments they may have to anyway, and gotten their camp roster set, at the last minute will they want to release 3, 4 or 5 higher salary guys and look for 3, 4 or 5 more camp bodies at minimum salary just to work Favre in? I doubt it.

Very different than last year when the Packers had to do nothing to add Favre's salary to their salary cap in 2008. The Packers could wait out Favre, the Jets will not be able to. They will have to make an immediate decision to release him or to cut guys and keep him.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

If Favre tried to force his way back they might accept if they have the cap. Its not like they are going to be set at QB.

[Patler]

If Favre tried to force his way back they might accept if they have the cap. Its not like they are going to be set at QB.

But getting the cap space for his $13 million salary will not be easy for the Jets.

[sheepshead]

Florio says Favre filed his papers this time. This tells me something...or nothing. But, could we see Brett waiting until the Jets fill his spot. Then he asks for his release. First flight to Minneapolis.

Problem is, he has to file his reinstatement papers and then the Jets will have to make a decision. And you are making a mighty assuption that the Vikings would even want anything to do with him now, especially with the admission that Favre regresses late in the season.

I am assuming that he has spoken to the Vikings. Yeah, I know it's a stretch but certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Actually, the more i think about it, this wont happen. In the Gentleman's club of NFL GMs Tannebaum would be outcast as a guy who bucked the system to strengthen another team and stick it to the Packers. I don't think he would do it for fear of having to deal wth said GM's in the future. Favre stays retired.

[Pugger]

If the Jets give Brett his unconditional release down the road it won't be the first time NJ just cut a QB with any value...

[cpk1994]

Florio says Favre filed his papers this time. This tells me something...or nothing. But, could we see Brett waiting until the Jets fill his spot. Then he asks for his release. First flight to Minneapolis.

Problem is, he has to file his reinstatement papers and then the Jets will have to make a decision. And you are making a mighty assuption that the Vikings would even want anything to do with him now, especially with the admission that Favre regresses late in the season.

I am assuming that he has spoken to the Vikings. Yeah, I know it's a stretch but certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Actually, the more i think about it, this wont happen. In the Gentleman's club of NFL GMs Tannebaum would be outcast as a guy who bucked the system to strengthen another team and stick it to the Packers. I don't think he would do it for fear of having to deal wth said GM's in the future. Favre stays retired.

Now thats something I have never thought of before. I think the other reason is if Favre tries this tactic again, he will not have the media bending over backwards to defend him. Even ESPN in their articles are saying he should stay retired this time.

[Spaulding]

We'd get our 6th round draft choice back if he does come back. Would be interesting for the NFL though if he did come back, get his release and then play for the Vikings.

If that was the case, the dwindling remaining loyalty to him would be gone.

[Fritz]

Florio says Favre filed his papers this time. This tells me something...or nothing. But, could we see Brett waiting until the Jets fill his spot. Then he asks for his release. First flight to Minneapolis.

Problem is, he has to file his reinstatement papers and then the Jets will have to make a decision. And you are making a mighty assuption that the Vikings would even want anything to do with him now, especially with the admission that Favre regresses late in the season.

I am assuming that he has spoken to the Vikings. Yeah, I know it's a stretch but certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Actually, the more i think about it, this wont happen. In the Gentleman's club of NFL GMs Tannebaum would be outcast as a guy who bucked the system to strengthen another team and stick it to the Packers. I don't think he would do it for fear of having to deal wth said GM's in the future. Favre stays retired.

But that's not what would be happening. IF Favre decided on a comeback in, say, June, by that time the Jets would've set most of their roster in terms of signings and getting under the cap. Even without Favre's contract they're in a bit of a tight spot.

So IF Favre wanted to come back, the Jets would have to decide between gutting their roster to make room for Favre's 13 mil - and how would that help a team who has a new coach and has to rebuild to some degree? - or just cutting Favre and getting on with the future...

Not Tannenbaum's fault then if he cuts Favre.

[cpk1994]

Florio says Favre filed his papers this time. This tells me something...or nothing. But, could we see Brett waiting until the Jets fill his spot. Then he asks for his release. First flight to Minneapolis.

Problem is, he has to file his reinstatement papers and then the Jets will have to make a decision. And you are making a mighty assuption that the Vikings would even want anything to do with him now, especially with the admission that Favre regresses late in the season.

I am assuming that he has spoken to the Vikings. Yeah, I know it's a stretch but certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Actually, the more i think about it, this wont happen. In the Gentleman's club of NFL GMs Tannebaum would be outcast as a guy who bucked the system to strengthen another team and stick it to the Packers. I don't think he would do it for fear of having to deal wth said GM's in the future. Favre stays retired.

But that's not what would be happening. IF Favre decided on a comeback in, say, June, by that time the Jets would've set most of their roster in terms of signings and getting under the cap. Even without Favre's contract they're in a bit of a tight spot.

So IF Favre wanted to come back, the Jets would have to decide between gutting their roster to make room for Favre's 13 mil - and how would that help a team who has a new coach and has to rebuild to some degree? - or just cutting Favre and getting on with the future...

Not Tannenbaum's fault then if he cuts Favre.

But thats not how the GM's gentlemans club operates. Tannenbaum may have a good reason to cut Favre, but that doesn't mean the other GM's aren't going to outcast him for allowing a player to stick it to a fellow GM. It would certainly make it harder for Tannebaum to make deals with other teams.

[Green Bud Packer]

Favre wanted his release so he could retire a Packer