"Retirement" all part of a plan?

[KYPack]

Anything you say, Partial.

[Fritz]

I guess I'm partial to you.

[KYPack]

No, Fritz.

I was talking to Partial.

"Listening" doesn't seem to be his strong suit, so I say, let him run.

[Partial]

Go through and rank the quarterbacks. I'm not saying his stats aren't the 6th best... but really, are you telling me there are only 5 quarterbacks in the league you'd rather have above him?

There are only 5-6 upper echelon QBs in the NFL. There are about 20 that are average. There are about 5-6 lower echelon QBs in the NFL.

Go through and make a list, one by one. I'll be curious to see where you homers end up with. Rodgers is not top 10 on mine, thats for sure.

[sheepshead]

Go through and rank the quarterbacks. I'm not saying his stats aren't the 6th best... but really, are you telling me there are only 5 quarterbacks in the league you'd rather have above him?

There are only 5-6 upper echelon QBs in the NFL. There are about 20 that are average. There are about 5-6 lower echelon QBs in the NFL.

Go through and make a list, one by one. I'll be curious to see where you homers end up with. Rodgers is not top 10 on mine, thats for sure.

Hey moron, this isnt fantasy football. If you don't like our quarterback, maybe we need to change. Would you like someone from our bench to start instead? How about the draft? Somebody there we should take?

How about somebody from this list?


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Because guess what douchbag. Tom Brady, Drew Brees or Payton Manning arent coming here to play football. You tout yourself as a smart successful driven guy that needs to loose 100 lbs. Maybe all that fat has messed up your brain. We would all consider it a favor if your comments were constructive. Instead of idol bitching like a little girl. Quarterback is NOT a need on the Green Bay Packers. Cut the crap already.

[Gunakor]

Go through and rank the quarterbacks. I'm not saying his stats aren't the 6th best... but really, are you telling me there are only 5 quarterbacks in the league you'd rather have above him?

There are only 5-6 upper echelon QBs in the NFL. There are about 20 that are average. There are about 5-6 lower echelon QBs in the NFL.

Go through and make a list, one by one. I'll be curious to see where you homers end up with. Rodgers is not top 10 on mine, thats for sure.

Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady (if healthy), Carson Palmer (if healthy), Phillip Rivers, and Ben Rothlisberger I'd surely put ahead of Rodgers at this point. Maybe Kurt Warner, but who knows what Rodgers would look like with a go to guy like Larry Fitzgerald to throw to. That guy can make any QB look good.

Am I missing anyone?

[cpk1994]

Go through and rank the quarterbacks. I'm not saying his stats aren't the 6th best... but really, are you telling me there are only 5 quarterbacks in the league you'd rather have above him?

There are only 5-6 upper echelon QBs in the NFL. There are about 20 that are average. There are about 5-6 lower echelon QBs in the NFL.

Go through and make a list, one by one. I'll be curious to see where you homers end up with. Rodgers is not top 10 on mine, thats for sure.

Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady (if healthy), Carson Palmer (if healthy), Phillip Rivers, and Ben Rothlisberger I'd surely put ahead of Rodgers at this point. Maybe Kurt Warner, but who knows what Rodgers would look like with a go to guy like Larry Fitzgerald to throw to. That guy can make any QB look good.

Am I missing anyone?

I dsagree about Palmer. I really don't think is much of anything anymore and Rodgers is better than Palmer right now. so my list.

Manning
Brady(if healthy)
Brees
Rivers
Rothliesberger
Rodgers

Rodgers good enough for 6th on my list.

[cpk1994]

Go through and rank the quarterbacks. I'm not saying his stats aren't the 6th best... but really, are you telling me there are only 5 quarterbacks in the league you'd rather have above him?

There are only 5-6 upper echelon QBs in the NFL. There are about 20 that are average. There are about 5-6 lower echelon QBs in the NFL.

Go through and make a list, one by one. I'll be curious to see where you homers end up with. Rodgers is not top 10 on mine, thats for sure.

Hey moron, this isnt fantasy football. If you don't like our quarterback, maybe we need to change. Would you like someone from our bench to start instead? How about the draft? Somebody there we should take?

I'll answer the question. Partial wants TT to go down to mississippi, beg and grovel at Favre's feet and get him to come back to GB. Thats all this is a bout. Partial is so pissed at TT that he will stretch anything to bash Rodgers with and if his argument is blown to hell(like it has many times) he will change the argument. If that doesn't work, he wants TT to tradde for the greatness that is Vince Young, even though VY is a basket case right now.

Seriously though, I wouldn't take anyy of those even if the Packers didn't have Rodgers.

[Gunakor]

Go through and rank the quarterbacks. I'm not saying his stats aren't the 6th best... but really, are you telling me there are only 5 quarterbacks in the league you'd rather have above him?

There are only 5-6 upper echelon QBs in the NFL. There are about 20 that are average. There are about 5-6 lower echelon QBs in the NFL.

Go through and make a list, one by one. I'll be curious to see where you homers end up with. Rodgers is not top 10 on mine, thats for sure.

Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady (if healthy), Carson Palmer (if healthy), Phillip Rivers, and Ben Rothlisberger I'd surely put ahead of Rodgers at this point. Maybe Kurt Warner, but who knows what Rodgers would look like with a go to guy like Larry Fitzgerald to throw to. That guy can make any QB look good.

Am I missing anyone?

I dsagree about Palmer. I really don't think is much of anything anymore and Rodgers is better than Palmer right now. so my list.

Manning
Brady(if healthy)
Brees
Rivers
Rothliesberger
Rodgers

Rodgers good enough for 6th on my list.

Palmer's been hurt too though. If he can get healthy again I think he's a damn good QB.

I'd put Rodgers 7th or 8th.

[sharpe1027]

Rodgers is average.

That's just loopy. Crazy talk. Unsupportable.

Stop picking on Partial. Somebody here had to fill Tank's role.

How's it not? When was the last time a stud quarterback with a team that went to the championship the previous year went 6-10?!?

Our offense went from world class to inept. That is an undeniable fact. We were beyond awful in the second half.

I'm not like Tank. Anyone who is anyone who watches football can go through a list of quarterbacks, and Rodgers typically falls at best 10th or so in the league (upper end of AVERAGE) to 20th (lower end of average).

Bob McGinn interviewed professional scouts (better at ranking players than your common board poster) and they ranked him on average 19th in the league. That is BELOW average. I think he is better than that, and probably around 14th best.

14th best in the league is average.

Seriously, some of you guys evidently don't understand what average is. I would like everyone here to rank the top 20 quarterbacks in the NFL in order of their ability to win a crucial game today against a top-tier team. I suspect Rodgers will be ranked about 12th.

12th is average!

I feel like someone keeps moving the target in mid shot.

So by average you meant anything other than the top, what... 5 QBs? So, by that logic, everyone except the bottom 5 QBs are average. Almost the entire league is average!

A word of advice, just admit when you overstate your position. It doesn't make you less of a man.

[KYPack]

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I dsagree about Palmer. I really don't think is much of anything anymore and Rodgers is better than Palmer right now. so my list.

Manning
Brady(if healthy)
Brees
Rivers
Rothliesberger
Rodgers

Rodgers good enough for 6th on my list.[/quote]

Palmer's been hurt too though. If he can get healthy again I think he's a damn good QB.

I'd put Rodgers 7th or 8th.[/quote]

I'd put Rodgers about the same in the ranking you show. Palmer is still really good, he just has a shit line and has the elbow troubles. You can drop him off if his elbow is still a problem. I'd put Rodgers in this list and include the other "Young Guns"

I'd include Cutler, Matt Ryan, Matt Cassel (I know the Boston line-up helped him like crazy, but he did some great things) in the top QB group.

Yeah, Partial is ate up about Favre/Rodgers and not looking at things objectively. That keeps the forum lively.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I like ARod and feel he's a very solid QB, but as far as rankings go I'm not ranking him or any other first year starter right now. I'm going to hold off on any rankings on a QB until he has at least 2 seasons of starting under his belt. Same applies to Ryan and Flacco.

[Zool]

I like ARod and feel he's a very solid QB, but as far as rankings go I'm not ranking him or any other first year starter right now. I'm going to hold off on any rankings on a QB until he has at least 2 seasons of starting under his belt. Same applies to Ryan and Flacco.

Something sensical! YAY!

[Partial]

So, so far we've seen 6th. 6th would be ranked above average in the upper echelon.

We've also seen 8th. 8th ranks as average as he is then in the 25-50% mark.

This has nothing to do with Favre. I don't see why people cannot see that. I rank Rodgers around 14th personally. However, I could see people putting him at about 10-12, and that puts him firmly in the AVERAGE group, as I have said all along.

[Lurker64]

However, I could see people putting him at about 10-12, and that puts him firmly in the AVERAGE group, as I have said all along.

Wait, if he's in the 10-12 range, he could in theory be #10, in which case he would be "top 10." I'm not sure how you can be both "top 10" and "average" in the NFL.

I mean, the 10th ranked defense is a good defense, it's not an average defense.

Plus, if you have the 10th best QB in the league, there are 22 teams that wish they had a QB as good as yours, that's average? I'd think "average" would be about the #16 QB.

I'm not sure in what way #10 out of 32 can be "average", and that's even ignoring the fact that there are teams with a bad situation at the QB position who have multiple starting QBs, so Rodgers is more like 10 out of 40, which would put him in the highest quartile, which is pretty good.