Favre: the man, the legend. Are we having fun yet?

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ok, "duh" was so middle school girl-like

he he...

[Gunakor]

Why the Packer 'O' offered Favre $20 Million to stay retired.

Probably because they wanted to continue to sell Favre jerseys while he still had a lot of good will in Wisconsin?

the timing of the "offer" was awfully shady pal......pack org HAD to know how it would be perceived and one's perception = their reality!

Favre was given the offer the day he "retired". How is that shady? Murphy went down to Mississippi to remind Favre of the offer. I know you have your lips chapped on Favre's ass, but you still need to get your facts straight.

dont u remember all the mess that was STILL going on when murph went down there? led to reports that packers were tryn to pay favre to stay retired! DUH!

Those weren't reports. They were reported rumors. I would like the source that definitively says the offer was made as a bribe. Please post it here. I think the business logic behind the move makes a ton more sense than just paying someone 20 million dollars just to stop playing football. Come on now...

[MOBB DEEP]

Why the Packer 'O' offered Favre $20 Million to stay retired.

Probably because they wanted to continue to sell Favre jerseys while he still had a lot of good will in Wisconsin?

the timing of the "offer" was awfully shady pal......pack org HAD to know how it would be perceived and one's perception = their reality!

Favre was given the offer the day he "retired". How is that shady? Murphy went down to Mississippi to remind Favre of the offer. I know you have your lips chapped on Favre's ass, but you still need to get your facts straight.

dont u remember all the mess that was STILL going on when murph went down there? led to reports that packers were tryn to pay favre to stay retired! DUH!

Those weren't reports. They were reported rumors. I would like the source that definitively says the offer was made as a bribe. Please post it here. I think the business logic behind the move makes a ton more sense than just paying someone 20 million dollars just to stop playing football. Come on now...

i can dig that; but the timing was awkward no?

[Scott Campbell]

Why the Packer 'O' offered Favre $20 Million to stay retired.

Probably because they wanted to continue to sell Favre jerseys while he still had a lot of good will in Wisconsin?

the timing of the "offer" was awfully shady pal......pack org HAD to know how it would be perceived and one's perception = their reality!

Favre was given the offer the day he "retired". How is that shady? Murphy went down to Mississippi to remind Favre of the offer. I know you have your lips chapped on Favre's ass, but you still need to get your facts straight.

dont u remember all the mess that was STILL going on when murph went down there? led to reports that packers were tryn to pay favre to stay retired! DUH!

Those weren't reports. They were reported rumors. I would like the source that definitively says the offer was made as a bribe. Please post it here. I think the business logic behind the move makes a ton more sense than just paying someone 20 million dollars just to stop playing football. Come on now...

i can dig that; but the timing was awkward no?

The best example of awkward timing is when Brett called Matt Millen during game week to discuss.............hunting.

[Gunakor]

Why the Packer 'O' offered Favre $20 Million to stay retired.

Probably because they wanted to continue to sell Favre jerseys while he still had a lot of good will in Wisconsin?

the timing of the "offer" was awfully shady pal......pack org HAD to know how it would be perceived and one's perception = their reality!

Favre was given the offer the day he "retired". How is that shady? Murphy went down to Mississippi to remind Favre of the offer. I know you have your lips chapped on Favre's ass, but you still need to get your facts straight.

dont u remember all the mess that was STILL going on when murph went down there? led to reports that packers were tryn to pay favre to stay retired! DUH!

Those weren't reports. They were reported rumors. I would like the source that definitively says the offer was made as a bribe. Please post it here. I think the business logic behind the move makes a ton more sense than just paying someone 20 million dollars just to stop playing football. Come on now...

i can dig that; but the timing was awkward no?

What would have been a better time? Was there a better time?

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maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

what was the motivation to do it RIGHT THEN?

[Scott Campbell]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

what was the motivation to do it RIGHT THEN?

It was one of a number of things the Packers did wrong prior to asking Ari Fleischer how to handle it.

[Gunakor]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

Yeah, Murphy's gonna fly over to New York to visit with Favre after football practice with the Jets to offer him a marketing deal with the Packers.

Doesn't hold water.

They could have just waited until after he retired for good, whenever that is. I think making the offer while he was still technically property of the Packers was in an attempt to save the relationship. Had they waited, just not said or did anything for a couple years, Favre could have viewed that as the Packers just not being interested in it at all. At least this way the offer is out there, and hopefully when this circus ends he'll come back and take the offer. That's what is best for everyone IMO, as Brett gets to retire a Packer (not to mention an extra 20 million dollars richer) and the Packers make a good profit on Favre merchandise after his retirement.

[Scott Campbell]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

Yeah, Murphy's gonna fly over to New York to visit with Favre after football practice with the Jets to offer him a marketing deal with the Packers.

Doesn't hold water.

They could have just waited until after he retired for good, whenever that is. I think making the offer while he was still technically property of the Packers was in an attempt to save the relationship. Had they waited, just not said or did anything for a couple years, Favre could have viewed that as the Packers just not being interested in it at all. At least this way the offer is out there, and hopefully when this circus ends he'll come back and take the offer. That's what is best for everyone IMO, as Brett gets to retire a Packer (not to mention an extra 20 million dollars richer) and the Packers make a good profit on Favre merchandise after his retirement.

The offer was a complete cluster. Everybody made fun of it - especially Favre.

[Gunakor]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

Yeah, Murphy's gonna fly over to New York to visit with Favre after football practice with the Jets to offer him a marketing deal with the Packers.

Doesn't hold water.

They could have just waited until after he retired for good, whenever that is. I think making the offer while he was still technically property of the Packers was in an attempt to save the relationship. Had they waited, just not said or did anything for a couple years, Favre could have viewed that as the Packers just not being interested in it at all. At least this way the offer is out there, and hopefully when this circus ends he'll come back and take the offer. That's what is best for everyone IMO, as Brett gets to retire a Packer (not to mention an extra 20 million dollars richer) and the Packers make a good profit on Favre merchandise after his retirement.

The offer was a complete cluster. Everybody made fun of it - especially Favre.

Favre viewed it as a buy off. Of course he would make fun of it. That's his problem.

Murphy viewed it as an opportunity to make a shitload of money. That's rather hard to make fun of. If you knew of a way to turn 20 million dollars into 100 millon dollars, even if you knew it would create controversy, would you do it? (And yes, it's legal, just controversial)

[Scott Campbell]

Favre viewed it as a buy off.

I disagree completely.


Favre viewed it as an opportunity to make the Packer look bad, and he exploited the gesture mercilessly.

[Scott Campbell]

Murphy viewed it as an opportunity to make a shitload of money.

I also disagree completely. I think Murphy viewed it as an opportunity to help protect Favre's Packer legacy from the guy who seemed unsure of whether he was going to play again. The financial return on investment is speculative at best - potentially a major blunder in this economy.

[Gunakor]

Murphy viewed it as an opportunity to make a shitload of money.

I also disagree completely. I think Murphy viewed it as an opportunity to help protect Favre's Packer legacy from the guy who seemed unsure of whether he was going to play again. The financial return on investment is speculative at best - potentially a major blunder in this economy.

This economy isn't last summer's economy. I'm not sure if the same offer would be made if the separation played out this summer vs. last. I'm sure that was part of it, but let's be honest. There would have been substantial profit had Favre taken that offer last summer. There may be less profit the longer he waits but it's still going to be a substantial amount. You can't tell me that Murphy wasn't seeing dollar signs out of at least one eye.

[Scott Campbell]

There would have been substantial profit had Favre taken that offer last summer.

Lets be honest - unless you've seen the financial models, you're making a speculative assumption.

[Gunakor]

There would have been substantial profit had Favre taken that offer last summer.

Lets be honest - unless you've seen the financial models, you're making a speculative assumption.

Yes, but it is a pretty sound one. You underestimate the level of support Favre still has around here, and moreso last summer before this whole thing blew up. Nothing is guaranteed, obviously, but it would've been a pretty sound investment - as sound as any other the franchise has made.