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  • #16
    Damnit, Harv, we're gonna need that fourth spot for the third fullback!
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    • #17
      Didn't the Packers finish last season with 4 running backs with Grant, Jackson Green and Wynn? Or was Wynn on IR?
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      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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      • #18
        I wouldn't mind picking him up...but I don't think it would really make that much of an impact on the offense, as he's on the downside of his career at this point. He's a reasonable insurance policy if we can't get any young back with skills as a receiver out of the backfield.
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        • #19
          Yes, Wynn went on IR at the same time that Ahman was signed.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Didn't the Packers finish last season with 4 running backs with Grant, Jackson Green and Wynn? Or was Wynn on IR?
            When isn't that useless sack of crap on IR? I don't know why we keep such a useless player that doesn't care around every single season.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by channtheman
              Originally posted by Joemailman
              Didn't the Packers finish last season with 4 running backs with Grant, Jackson Green and Wynn? Or was Wynn on IR?
              When isn't that useless sack of crap on IR? I don't know why we keep such a useless player that doesn't care around every single season.
              A little harsh there, wouldn't you say? He's only been around for 3 years - granted he was here for every single one of them. He was a 7th round draft pick, which isn't the most glowing endorsement of one's football abilities to begin with. Has he contributed less than you'd expect any other 7th round pick to contribute? Has he performed more poorly than you'd expect any other 7th round pick to perform? Aren't they all useless sacks of crap with very few exceptions?

              Anyways, he's not going to be on our roster this year.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gunakor
                Originally posted by channtheman
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Didn't the Packers finish last season with 4 running backs with Grant, Jackson Green and Wynn? Or was Wynn on IR?
                When isn't that useless sack of crap on IR? I don't know why we keep such a useless player that doesn't care around every single season.
                A little harsh there, wouldn't you say? He's only been around for 3 years - granted he was here for every single one of them. He was a 7th round draft pick, which isn't the most glowing endorsement of one's football abilities to begin with. Has he contributed less than you'd expect any other 7th round pick to contribute? Has he performed more poorly than you'd expect any other 7th round pick to perform? Aren't they all useless sacks of crap with very few exceptions?

                Anyways, he's not going to be on our roster this year.
                The point is: shit or get off the pot!

                It's not: oh, he's decent for a 7th round pick... he didn't contribute as much as Brad Jones. About 1/30th of that.

                So um... yeah, cut him. Who cares. He had his chance.

                3 years is a year too many for a 7th round pick to show any sign of consistency or contribution. We've had no problem cutting higher draft picks so why not Wynn? I think the message remains... the coaching staff has an inflated view of this guy.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mission
                  The point is: shit or get off the pot!

                  It's not: oh, he's decent for a 7th round pick... he didn't contribute as much as Brad Jones. About 1/30th of that.

                  So um... yeah, cut him. Who cares. He had his chance.

                  3 years is a year too many for a 7th round pick to show any sign of consistency or contribution. We've had no problem cutting higher draft picks so why not Wynn? I think the message remains... the coaching staff has an inflated view of this guy.
                  It's not an "inflated view" unless there was a better option that they let go. Otherwise, he's just the best of the rest, which doesn't say very much.

                  There simply is no reason to cut him right now. They brought in Green last year and I would expect that they keep looking for someone to take his spot.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mission
                    Originally posted by Gunakor
                    Originally posted by channtheman
                    Originally posted by Joemailman
                    Didn't the Packers finish last season with 4 running backs with Grant, Jackson Green and Wynn? Or was Wynn on IR?
                    When isn't that useless sack of crap on IR? I don't know why we keep such a useless player that doesn't care around every single season.
                    A little harsh there, wouldn't you say? He's only been around for 3 years - granted he was here for every single one of them. He was a 7th round draft pick, which isn't the most glowing endorsement of one's football abilities to begin with. Has he contributed less than you'd expect any other 7th round pick to contribute? Has he performed more poorly than you'd expect any other 7th round pick to perform? Aren't they all useless sacks of crap with very few exceptions?

                    Anyways, he's not going to be on our roster this year.
                    The point is: shit or get off the pot!

                    It's not: oh, he's decent for a 7th round pick... he didn't contribute as much as Brad Jones. About 1/30th of that.

                    So um... yeah, cut him. Who cares. He had his chance.

                    3 years is a year too many for a 7th round pick to show any sign of consistency or contribution. We've had no problem cutting higher draft picks so why not Wynn? I think the message remains... the coaching staff has an inflated view of this guy.
                    He once beat out a 2nd round pick at RB for a starting spot, which would have likely remained his if he stayed healthy or if Grant wouldn't have stepped up in the second half of the season. Nobody has spoken so strongly about Brandon Jackson, the useless sack of crap that was beat out by DeShawn Wynn for a starting spot in 2007.

                    But that's besides the point I was making anyway. You can call just about any 7th round pick a useless waste of a player. To be so adamantly strong in making that statement seems redundant, almost to the point of disrespectful. It's like making fun of the kids on the short bus.
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                    • #25
                      Has anyone heard anything about Greg Lumpkin? If he can stay healthy, I think he should be someone we watch for. He is a north-south type runner who can knock people over but also has some speed. He has shown flashes of his ability but has always gotten hurt.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by VermontPackFan
                        Has anyone heard anything about Greg Lumpkin? If he can stay healthy, I think he should be someone we watch for. He is a north-south type runner who can knock people over but also has some speed. He has shown flashes of his ability but has always gotten hurt.
                        I kind of like Kregg Lumpkin. However, like Wynn, he has never stayed healthy.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #27
                          I bash Wynn and get multiple people defending him ??? Not even worth a counter, we obviously have different views of the RB position. Probably the same people that expect Grant to give us 1200+ for the next 4 years ... Heh.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mission
                            I bash Wynn and get multiple people defending him ??? Not even worth a counter, we obviously have different views of the RB position. Probably the same people that expect Grant to give us 1200+ for the next 4 years ... Heh.
                            Complaining about Wynn is like complaining about Brett Swain. Sure he isn't that good, but who ever said he was?

                            Technically, you also bashed TT/MM for overvaluing him. I don't think anyone said he was that good. He is what he is, a 7th round 3rd or 4th stringer that actually had a good game or two but will probably not make the team this year.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027
                              Originally posted by mission
                              I bash Wynn and get multiple people defending him ??? Not even worth a counter, we obviously have different views of the RB position. Probably the same people that expect Grant to give us 1200+ for the next 4 years ... Heh.
                              Complaining about Wynn is like complaining about Brett Swain. Sure he isn't that good, but who ever said he was?

                              Technically, you also bashed TT/MM for overvaluing him. I don't think anyone said he was that good. He is what he is, a 7th round 3rd or 4th stringer that actually had a good game or two but will probably not make the team this year.
                              How are those comparisons even close?

                              Wynn was drafted in the 7th round because
                              of work ethic / character / weight concerns. It was considered a good pick because of his potential upside if he was able to motivate himself.

                              Swain has NOT been on the roster bubble
                              for three years in the exact same spot. He was first
                              on PS and then beat out everyones favorite for a roster spot last year. That's improvement regardless of whether you like swain or not (I really don't)

                              Wynn has not done anything differently... showed signs, had a few
                              good runs, got challenged
                              by staff, never really fast enough to see real playing time, got
                              injured, ended up on IR...

                              What has happened differently? Why is my 'shit or get
                              off the pot' comment off base? Three years, no progression whatsoever. I'm not complaining about Wynn, I'm just saying there is nothing new.
                              For people to still be holding out hope, come on... that's like tt/mm thinking bush is the man. At a certain point you're better off with a new 7th round pick who has a red flag or two and seeing if he can overcome them.

                              Stop grasping at straws with "stabs at TT" and all that... It's almost annoying having to explain this (on my phone so sorry for any errors)

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                              • #30
                                Wynn is mediocre...why waste effort arguing over a guy who has about a 2% chance of making the roster next year?

                                The coaching staff doesn't have an inflated view of the guy...they don't have anyone else on the roster good enough to make them cut Wynn. Our RB depth is not all that great...proven by the fact we had to go out and bring Ahman Green back after we let him go a few years ago. If we had someone good enough to take Wynn's spot, he'd have been gone a long time ago.

                                I think Thompson is well aware of the problem he has at RB, and will take steps to address it in this draft.
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