Rumors: Rodgers may hand off to Westbrook

[Brandon494]

Ha.....just noticed the sig Bretsky.......so will it become known as the "Curse of the Bikini Girls" now?

YES, I'VE PROBABLY JUST DOOMED ALL THREE

As long as you don't doom Kindle...I'm not so sold on the other two.

Hmm I'm not so sold on Kindle but like the other two... what don't you like about Hughes and Graham? Their (shorter) frames?

EDIT - (off topic, sorry)

Out of those three I believe Kindle is the most ready to play LB in the 3-4 defense since he played a similiar style in college. Hughes and Graham have never played LB in their career and would be projects. People think you can just take athletic DE and move them to outside LB and they will be the next D Ware but thats no always the case. (Vernon Gholston)

[MJZiggy]

For a minute I thought I accidentally clicked into a Romper Room discussion comparing e-book readers. If anyone has any recommendations...

[Gunakor]

Also, if Westrook takes 25% of Grants carries, it ends up saving us money on Grant's incentive laden deal.

I don't want Westbrook taking 25% of Grants carries. I want Westbrook on the field on 3rd down or other obvious passing situations and that's it. I don't trust Westbrook to stay healthy if being given any significant amount of carries, and I don't trust Grant to be nearly as effective if losing any significant amount of carries. I want the ratio of carries between Grant and whoever he's splitting carries with to remain the same. If he earns his incentives then I'd have no problem paying him for doing so. More importantly, I'd hate to piss him off by eliminating his opportunity to earn those incentives.

[Noodle]

Gunakor's observations are why I say stick with Green. If you have Westbrook, you're going to have to play him. Whereas Green is fine with a 3rd down role or any other role you give him.

I just don't see the disparity in talent between the two. As I recall, Green knew how to catch a ball pretty well. I'd also bet Green is faster, and he's certainly more physical.

[Brandon494]

Gunakor's observations are why I say stick with Green. If you have Westbrook, you're going to have to play him. Whereas Green is fine with a 3rd down role or any other role you give him.

I just don't see the disparity in talent between the two. As I recall, Green knew how to catch a ball pretty well. I'd also bet Green is faster, and he's certainly more physical.

Green faster than Westbrook? Its not 2004 anymore.

Also its nothing wrong with playing Westbrook to take some of the load off Grant.

[Bretsky]

Gunakor's observations are why I say stick with Green. If you have Westbrook, you're going to have to play him. Whereas Green is fine with a 3rd down role or any other role you give him.

I just don't see the disparity in talent between the two. As I recall, Green knew how to catch a ball pretty well. I'd also bet Green is faster, and he's certainly more physical.

IMO

I like Green more in terms of loyalty

But Westbrook is the better receiver
Westbrook still has home run/take it to the house ability
Westbrook can still create matchup problems on 3rd down situations

This all assumes Westbrook has a clean bill of healthy....but he's just a better player

[Lurker64]

This all assumes Westbrook has a clean bill of healthy....but he's just a better player

That's a big, big, big assumption. Not only did he miss a significant portion of last year with recurring concussions, he's also had knee and ankle injuries every year for the past 2-3 years that prevented him from practicing during the week.

I'm not even convinced Westbrook could pass a physical.

[Brandon494]

This all assumes Westbrook has a clean bill of healthy....but he's just a better player

That's a big, big, big assumption. Not only did he miss a significant portion of last year with recurring concussions, he's also had knee and ankle injuries every year for the past 2-3 years that prevented him from practicing during the week.

I'm not even convinced Westbrook could pass a physical.

Thats true, I just know I don't want Ahman Green back next year because that would mean we did nothing to improve at the RB position.

In my perfect world we would sign Westbrook to a one year deal and draft someone like Charles Scott from LSU in the later rounds.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm okay with either but I wouldn't mind drafting somebody either and carrying four.

Grant could get cut this offseason. We might need a long-term replacement. Jackson is good in pass pro. Draft somebody groom them to be the long-term solution. Green has lost a lot, but he's still solid when healthy. I just like Ahman, so there are emotional reasons I'd want him back. Plus, I think he brings something to the locker room. I think I'd prefer Westbrook because he'd bring a different dimension to the offense.

[Gunakor]

What makes you believe that Grant could get cut this offseason? Typically a proven back has to show significant signs of decline before they are released outright, and Grant has been a model of consistency for several years now. No decline at all. I would think the Packers would be elated to have him back next year.

[Scott Campbell]

Grant could get cut this offseason.

He's definitely the Rodney Dangerfield of 7th leading rushers in the NFL.

[Brandon494]

No chance Grant gets cut, I don't know what your thinking.

[Bretsky]

What makes you believe that Grant could get cut this offseason? Typically a proven back has to show significant signs of decline before they are released outright, and Grant has been a model of consistency for several years now. No decline at all. I would think the Packers would be elated to have him back next year.

My guess is Harv meant Grant could be cut next offseason. If he has another decent year I think GB owed him a 7 Million Dollar bonus on a certain day. This is going off memory so I'm not 100% sure of that. I think it's in question as to whether TT would pay that.

[Gunakor]

What makes you believe that Grant could get cut this offseason? Typically a proven back has to show significant signs of decline before they are released outright, and Grant has been a model of consistency for several years now. No decline at all. I would think the Packers would be elated to have him back next year.

My guess is Harv meant Grant could be cut next offseason. If he has another decent year I think GB owed him a 7 Million Dollar bonus on a certain day. This is going off memory so I'm not 100% sure of that. I think it's in question as to whether TT would pay that.

I'd be mad as hell if he were cut simply because TT decided he wasn't worth the money he had earned. If the guy has another 1250 yard 14 TD season you pay the man. Thompson loses A LOT of cool points in my book if he decided to play it that way. I don't believe in overpaying, but they're not overpaying if he's already earned it.

Besides, he's as important to this offense as Greg Jennings is. More important in my opinion, given the fact that we could endure the loss of Jennings far better than losing Grant. Yet nobody complained about Jennings when he got his money. I think it goes back to the old argument that, stats be damned, Grant just doesn't LOOK like a top 10 back and thus shouldn't be paid like one. Horseshit IMO, and I'd think Teddy would agree with me there. If Grant puts together another top 10 season I doubt very highly that Thompson would release him rather than pay his bonus.

[retailguy]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.