Camp Reports 2013 or Oh No, That Doesn't Look Good

[wist43]

While it is true that NFL teams draft college T's and move them to G, how many of them are constantly playing musical chairs with all their linemen?? When's the last time you heard of a team flipping their entire OL?? The answer is never.

The Packers are a unique mess when it comes to the OL, and that starts with McCarthy. Our OL has been a complete mess since he's been here - it was only for that "fart in the wind" stretch that landed us a SB that he was able to stabalize it long enough to get some decent production out of it.

How Rodgers is still alive is amazing - what are the odds Rodgers makes it through another season of 51 sacks?? It's only a matter of time before he goes down - then all of you will be screaming bloody murder.

It's one thing to say we have to convert college T's to G... McCarthy's musical chairs approach to the OL is a completely different conversation.

[Fritz]

Of course, losing Bulaga last year...and again this year, it seems, and losing your #1 draft pick from three drafts ago must somehow be all MM's fault too, right?

Wist, do you ever, ever enjoy anything?

[pbmax]

From Pete Dougherty of the GBPG blog:

that the team seems inclined to play Bakhtiari at left tackle and keep Marshall Newhouse at right tackle.

[Joemailman]

It might be interesting to see what MM and Clements can do with a kid like Vince Young...

Vince Young is 30.

[Pugger]

Vince Young is 30.

Anybody under 50 is a kid to me.

[packer4life]

Max, I didn't watch the scrimmage - how much 2-whatever, 1-whatever alignments was Capers in??

His MO has usually been to use more base alignments in the preseason - using 3 DL a good amount of the time. Then, once the lights are on, he forgets that he has DL on the roster.

Beware of what you guys think you will be getting with Jones - assuming Capers hasn't had a brain transplant, it is entirely likely that he will negate Jones by constantly playing small and soft. How many times last year did Capers get a sack on 2nd down - now 3rd and 16, and he rushes 3, plays man behind it and a team like Jacksonville converts an easy first down with a little flair pass in the flat?? or he simply lets the TE run free down the middle for an easy pitch and catch at the 12 yard mark, but doesn't even encounter the first defender until he's already at the 1st down marker??

Capers is the problem - I don't see that changing at all. He's been misusing several good players since he's been here - what makes any of you think he'll use Jones to good effect??

Under Dom Capers since 2009, the packers are 4th overall in overall scoring defense (points allowed per game) and overall TDs allowed. Furthermore, we are 3rd overall since 2009 in rushing TDs allowed. We are #4 overall in total sacks since 2010. Don't get me started on the ability to force turnovers, we are good in that category as well.

It's easy to jump on the wist bandwagon (aka the I hate everything bandwagon), but for the rest of you I will simply let those stats do the talking. Capers is no Bob Sanders. He deserves a shred of respect people.

[pbmax]

Tuesday Camp Practice, August 6, 2013

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 37s
Newhouse starting out at RT, Bakhtiari at LT.

HOPING FOR MORE CLITON, LESS MICHELS

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 1m
Datone Jones nowhere in sight either
Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 1m
Alex Green is not suited up today #Packers

HEAD INTO DESK DESK DESK DESK

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 5m
Still out: Dorsey, Johnson, Richardson, Hayward, Williams, Tretter, Sherrod, Quarless, Nelson, Neal, Worthy

CUNNINGHAM PUT ON IR YESTERDAY TO MAKE ROOM FOR YOUNG AND WR WILSON (WR Justin Wilson from Delaware St.)

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 8m
New out Green, Bulaga, Taylor

DON'T FORGET JONES!

[pbmax]

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 5m
TE Andrew Quarless is still out and I don't see DE Datone Jones yet.

I THINK THE PACKERS SHOULD NOT HAVE CAMP ANYMORE. AND FORFEIT PRESEASON GAMES. AND FAMILY NIGHT SCRIMMAGE CAN BE FAMILY NIGHT INDIVIDUAL DRILLS

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 6m
#Packers out: Dorsey, Johnson, Green, Harris, Richardson, Hayward,Tramon, Tretter, Bulaga, Sherrod, Quarless, Taylor, Nelson, Neal, Worthy

LATER COULD NOT FIND JONES

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 4m
Sitton and Lang have not been moved. Same positions.

PERHAPS THEY CAN PLAY OFFENSE AND DEFENSE LIKE IN YEARS PAST WHEN NO ONE EVER GOT HURT

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 4m
Barclay starting out at RT behind Newhouse. Had been playing guard and center.

SOMETIMES ADVERSITY IS NECESSARY TO CLARIFY YOUR THINKING JAMES CAMPEN

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 3m
Barclay getting some reps at RT 1 and Van Roten at center w No. 1 line n Harrell at QB

SOMETIMES ADVERSITY IS NECESSARY TO CLARIFY YOUR THINKING JAMES CAMPEN

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 3m
Barclay now at center. Graham Harrell is getting all the reps at No. 2 QB.

SOMETIMES ADVERSITY IS NECESSARY TO CLARIFY YOUR THINKING MIKE MCCARTHY

[pbmax]

Personal note on Vince Young. A couple of years in Andy Reid's system might mean than terminology in this flavor of West Coast Offense will not be unfamiliar to him.

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 6m
Then Barclay shifts to center.

OF COURSE HE DOES. HE WILL GET ALL THE RT REPS HE NEEDS AFTER THE NEXT TACKLE INJURY

Personal: We are not here just to torture you. A fairly positive piece from two people who have actually watched "the lightest lineman in the draft" play football. http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/05/the-all...y-left-tackle/

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 9m
Now Barclay at LG, Newhouse RT

PLEASE BE A TYPO

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 9m
Now Barclay at left guard. Call him Mr. Utility Man.

I AM GOING TO GET COFFEE. LET ME KNOW WHEN CAMP IS OVER

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 10m
Packers have been increasing Eddie Lacy's workload. Have to think he'll keep seeing carries with Harris, Green both out.

DUNNE WAS A MATH MAJOR. KNOWS THE DENOMINATOR IS EVERYTHING IN DIVISION

[pbmax]

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 9m
Some followers astutely point out that Vince Young has no money to buy Ross' number.

BECAUSE I AM A TERRIBLE PERSON, I SMILED AT THIS. COMPASSION FINALLY GOT SQUARED UP TO THE LOS AND WAS ABLE TO REIN ME BACK IN. GAIN OF 4 YARDS.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 10m
I don't see AJ Hawk right now.

NEEDS ADDICTION BY SUBTRACTION JOKES STAT

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 10m
Just as I say that Hawk comes running out of the Don Hutson Center.

SILVERSTEIN IS JUST TOYING WITH READERS

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 6m
Dezman Moses back practicing. Here he is with Mulumba at jugs machine... https://vine.co/v/hbT1glrq1T0

THE HEALTHIEST PEOPLE ARE ALL AT POSITIONS OF THE GREATEST DEPTH. CAUSE OR EFFECT?

[Joemailman]

TwitterTom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Still no sign of DE Datone Jones.

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Vince Young is getting play by play direction from QBs coach Ben McAdoo. No reps.

[Joemailman]

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne
Andrew Datko is back at tackle. Working with the second team at left tackle.

Bulaga gets hurt, and now they have guys playing where they should be playing.

[pbmax]

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 6m
A few of Vince Young's passes during ball drill to backs were errant.

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 6m
It has been a year for Young. In drill from previous video, the QB hit one of the bags.

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 6m
Vince Young still has kind of funky throwing motion, brings ball farther behind shoulder than most QBs

LEFT WITHOUT COMMENT

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 4m
#Packers who have returned from injury are S David Fulton, LB Dezman Moses and LB Jamari Lattimore.

HGH TESTING MUST BE OVER

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 10m
Shields n House outside CBs, Hyde slot in No. 1 nickel

TODAY'S MOMENT OF ZEN, ROOKIE EDITION

Mike Vandermause @MikeVandermause 7m
During last drill No. 2 line was LT Datko, LG Patrick Lewis, C Van Roten, RG Lane Taylor, RT Barclay.

OK, YOU PUT IT LIKE THAT AND I UNDERSTAND BARCLAY EVERYWHERE

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 10m
Vince Young is getting play by play direction from QBs coach Ben McAdoo. No reps.

WHO NEEDS REPS WHEN HE CAN HIT THE BLOCKING BAG FROM 20 YARDS?

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 8m
Punt return drill, returners: Conb, Ross, Franklin, Hines, Wilson

ROSS DROPS A PUNT LATER, I HOPE HE KNOWS HE IS DISAPPOINTING A NATION OF RANDALL COBB FANS