Scott Motherf***ing Tolzien

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Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero 5m

McCarthy on Scott Tolzien: "I thought Scott did a hell of a job. We’re running plays he hasn’t even practiced yet."

Well, that could still be the Wisconsin playbook. Barry and Chryst never really got to use the passing half of it anyway.

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Still a bit surprised M3 was that sanguine about the INTs.

Nice to know occasionally I do recognize good play.

[CaptainKickass]

[digitaldean]

Given the situation, he did OK. Not great, but not T.J. Rubley-wretched either. He has some heat on some of his throws. Yes, he had several passes (the INT in endzone and 2 dropped Eagle INT's). Yes, the WR's had to make plays, but what should we expect? We have a 3rd stringer who was just bumped up from PS taking over from a 2nd stringer who doesn't have the arm strength of Tolzien, who was taking over for the league MVP. There's going to be a dropoff in talent. Right now, who else is REALLY out there?? Vince Young? Graham Harrell?? BJ Coleman??

Google the stats for W-L re: backup QB's. It's absolutely horrible. Cassell taking over for Brady and Warner taking over for in STL are the exceptions, not the rule.

It's the 1st down on the 12 earlier in the game and we go with 3 straight pass plays....WITH A NEW QB??? NOT ONE F'IN RUN?? I put that on MM. Plus we have a D that give Riley freaking Cooper the star treatment and can't tackle for crap. Heyward, Burnett and Williams SUCKED and were burned repeatedly. MD Jennings did a better job of covering Davon House on one play than the receiver.

[woodbuck27]

Given the situation, he did OK. Not great, but not T.J. Rubley-wretched either. He has some heat on some of his throws. Yes, he had several passes (the INT in endzone and 2 dropped Eagle INT's). Yes, the WR's had to make plays, but what should we expect? We have a 3rd stringer who was just bumped up from PS taking over from a 2nd stringer who doesn't have the arm strength of Tolzien, who was taking over for the league MVP. There's going to be a dropoff in talent. Right now, who else is REALLY out there?? Vince Young? Graham Harrell?? BJ Coleman??

Google the stats for W-L re: backup QB's. It's absolutely horrible. Cassell taking over for Brady and Warner taking over for in STL are the exceptions, not the rule.

It's the 1st down on the 12 earlier in the game and we go with 3 straight pass plays....WITH A NEW QB??? NOT ONE F'IN RUN?? I put that on MM. Plus we have a D that give Riley freaking Cooper the star treatment and can't tackle for crap. Heyward, Burnett and Williams SUCKED and were burned repeatedly. MD Jennings did a better job of covering Davon House on one play than the receiver.

" MD Jennings did a better job of covering Davon House on one play than the receiver " digitaldean

a) They just can't stop doing chest bumps.

b) MD Jennings needs eye correction

c) Both wanted to feel what a tackle/contact is like in a game.

[King Friday]

The kid was OK considering the circumstances. He's not an NFL starting caliber QB, but we don't have many options at this point. Flynn, if his arm is at least 50%, will be on the roster Monday evening. Other than that, no one would be worth anything to this team right now because they would be clueless regarding the offense.

I don't have much hope for the next few games...our defense is not elite, and our offense is now no where close to adequate.

[woodbuck27]

The kid was OK considering the circumstances. He's not an NFL starting caliber QB, but we don't have many options at this point. Flynn, if his arm is at least 50%, will be on the roster Monday evening. Other than that, no one would be worth anything to this team right now because they would be clueless regarding the offense.

I don't have much hope for the next few games...our defense is not elite, and our offense is now no where close to adequate.

I can't help feel after today and this past week that it's a sad time now to be a Green Bay Packer fan.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Well, after a semi-good night of sleep, my overall view on our performance has changed significantly. I now believe we are basically fucked...

[Infamous]

BRING BACK VINCE

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Scott played GREAT actually Woodbuck

But whats up with that mayor in Toronto?? SMH!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Still a bit surprised M3 was that sanguine about the INTs.

Nice to know occasionally I do recognize good play.

The interception in the endzone was not a horrible mistake. We're talking about the throw being a half of a second late, or 4 inches too low. Of course red zone throws come down to tiny windows, and Rodgers would have completed those passes.

I am happy to jump on the Tolzien train, he is a fighter with a good arm, what's not to like? He'll get better.

But I am defensive about Seneca Wallace. Guy has played to the best of his ability, and has played OK. He went 5-5 before he got hurt, and people are acting like he washed out. Again, a groin pull without a hit has a Fred Sandford quality about it. Wallace was not that good at age 28, maybe he should be out of the league at age 33.

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The interception in the endzone was not a horrible mistake. We're talking about the throw being a half of a second late, or 4 inches too low. Of course red zone throws come down to tiny windows, and Rodgers would have completed those passes.

I am happy to jump on the Tolzien train, he is a fighter with a good arm, what's not to like? He'll get better.

But I am defensive about Seneca Wallace. Guy has played to the best of his ability, and has played OK. He went 5-5 before he got hurt, and people are acting like he washed out. Again, a groin pull without a hit has a Fred Sandford quality about it. Wallace was not that good at age 28, maybe he should be out of the league at age 33.

I agree, just required a different kind of throw or an adjusted target (he said he should have aimed more for the pylon).

But he had another INT right into coverage of a WR who wasn't open and two others that were dropped. It was a very good effort but not all buttermilk and biscuits.

[woodbuck27]

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/3502/starter-pack-rodgers-on-tolzien

Starter Pack: Rodgers on Tolzien

November, 13, 2013 ... By Rob Demovsky | ESPN.com

“He’s a perfectionist,” Rodgers said of Tolzien. “I can relate to that."

"... “Back in 2006, we started doing weekly reports,” Rodgers said of his days as a backup.

“I would watch hours and hours and film of write up a report on the entire secondary. Back then it was just Brett and I. I would do the corners and the safeties, and I would give him and the room a report of what I saw, what I think would work. It wasn’t like I was giving Brett anything he would use in the game. I think it was more to get me into a routine of preparation, watching the film I should be watching and looking for the things that I should be looking for, and it really taught me a lot about preparation. ..."

Please click on the LINK for the entire story.

GO PACK GO !

[Zool]

I am happy to jump on the Tolzien train, he is a fighter with a good arm, what's not to like?

Well he's fucked.

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I agree, just required a different kind of throw or an adjusted target (he said he should have aimed more for the pylon).

But he had another INT right into coverage of a WR who wasn't open and two others that were dropped. It was a very good effort but not all buttermilk and biscuits.

i would have liked to see the ball over the other shoulder and more of a lob pass. something that gets up and over the D instead of giving the guy he can make an easy play on

i hate seeing those types of throws where the CB can easily jump the route and has nothing between him and the other endzone