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  • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
    So dunderdummy actually earned his paycheck this week...

    He bottled up the middle of the field - for the most part; blitzed and actually bothered to cover some receivers. To be sure Ponder helped a lot by missing open receivers, and not pulling the trigger when he needed to, but for the most part, our defense looked like an actual NFL defense for a change.

    Next week we will be right back to the same old Dom crap, but at least for one week Capers did his job.
    So did his players. Its a wonder how good a D can look when they tackle and rush the passer. Let's hope we can do this again in Miami against Tannehill and friends.

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    • Props to Capers and the D again. They dominated an inferior team as they should.

      Now over the last 15 quarters, the defense has allowed 47 points. That's a rate of 12.5/game.
      All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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      • Originally posted by wist43 View Post

        Next week we will be right back to the same old Dom crap, but at least for one week Capers did his job.
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        • Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
          Props to Capers and the D again. They dominated an inferior team as they should.

          Now over the last 15 quarters, the defense has allowed 47 points. That's a rate of 12.5/game.
          Geno Smith, Cutler being Cutler, and now Christian Ponder??

          The only one I'll give them credit for is keeping Stafford in check, but I can't comment on that game from an x's and o's standpoint b/c we didn't get the game here, and I didn't see it - only saw the stat sheet, which looked good... except for the final score of course.

          I knew you guys would come away from the bar and puff your chests out after we beat down a weak sister, lol...

          At least we beat a team we were supposed to beat - more good news, Miami has a lousy QB and an overall lousy offense... Dom for Coach of the Year!!!
          wist

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          • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
            Geno Smith, Cutler being Cutler, and now Christian Ponder??

            The only one I'll give them credit for is keeping Stafford in check, but I can't comment on that game from an x's and o's standpoint b/c we didn't get the game here, and I didn't see it - only saw the stat sheet, which looked good... except for the final score of course.

            I knew you guys would come away from the bar and puff your chests out after we beat down a weak sister, lol...

            At least we beat a team we were supposed to beat - more good news, Miami has a lousy QB and an overall lousy offense... Dom for Coach of the Year!!!


            I was very impressed with the pass rush until the fourth quarter, and disappointed in the way the line seemed to bend on the running game - things looked bottled up, but a running back would push the line and end up with five or six yards.

            I don't think anyone here is seeing last night's win for more than what it was - a nice win that showed improvements in some areas (the offense's running game, getting turnovers) and problems in other areas (the defense's run bulwark being soft at times). And I think we acknowledge that the Vikings' injuries and Ponder's putrid play should not be forgotten.

            But it was a win. We hope that this will help the team's confidence and understanding of the schemes as they travel to Miami.

            But your refusal to allow for any joy or any hope at all can seem suffocating. Man, enjoy the moment.

            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • Wist, you need to make a post to "Ask Vic" at Packers.com.

              This what Vic had to say today:
              Nobody’s complaining about Coach Capers today. I guess his schemes were pretty good last night. I especially liked the scheme in which Mike Daniels whips the guy across from him. That’s a great scheme.
              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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              • Ponder is such a pariah these days. I'm anxious to see Teddy too but not under those circumstances. That OL was miserable and Ponder's best throws were dropped.
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                • Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                  Wist, you need to make a post to "Ask Vic" at Packers.com.

                  This what Vic had to say today:
                  "I especially liked the scheme in which Mike Daniels whips the guy across from him."

                  Fantastic
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                  • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    I was very impressed with the pass rush until the fourth quarter, and disappointed in the way the line seemed to bend on the running game - things looked bottled up, but a running back would push the line and end up with five or six yards.
                    Is it just me, or do Hawk and Lattimore play deeper than most inside LB's? It seems they are always 5-6 yards behind the LOS. Maybe that accounts for the "running back push" you mentioned.
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                      Is it just me, or do Hawk and Lattimore play deeper than most inside LB's? It seems they are always 5-6 yards behind the LOS. Maybe that accounts for the "running back push" you mentioned.
                      I've always assumed that's to allow them to not be completely out of position when the time comes for them to make a play. ILB play really appears to be the huge weak link in this D now. It's glaring.
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                      • Originally posted by Zool View Post
                        I've always assumed that's to allow them to not be completely out of position when the time comes for them to make a play. ILB play really appears to be the huge weak link in this D now. It's glaring.
                        That's probably Dom's thinking. Compensating for their lack of speed (Hawk's) and inexperience (Lattimore). Look at game film from other teams and the inside backers are much closer to the LOS. They fill the gaps quicker. I'd move ours up a yard or two.
                        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                        • Maybe the way they play they should play deeper than the safeties...
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Maybe the way they play they should play deeper than the safeties...
                            LOL. Dom's probably got that alignment somewhere in his playbook!
                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                            • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              I was very impressed with the pass rush until the fourth quarter, and disappointed in the way the line seemed to bend on the running game - things looked bottled up, but a running back would push the line and end up with five or six yards.

                              I don't think anyone here is seeing last night's win for more than what it was - a nice win that showed improvements in some areas (the offense's running game, getting turnovers) and problems in other areas (the defense's run bulwark being soft at times). And I think we acknowledge that the Vikings' injuries and Ponder's putrid play should not be forgotten.

                              But it was a win. We hope that this will help the team's confidence and understanding of the schemes as they travel to Miami.

                              But your refusal to allow for any joy or any hope at all can seem suffocating. Man, enjoy the moment.

                              I enjoyed the win... and I expect we'll look good next weak against another weak opponent.

                              I keep my eye on the big picture though... we don't need to beat Minnesota and Miami (of course we do, but big whoop) to win a championship, we need to beat Seattle, and Denver, and SF, etc.

                              Some of your brethren like to harken back to 2012 when we finished 12th in defense - doesn't mean much when you get completely blasted in the playoffs in embarrassing, demoralizing, 'somebody please stop the fight' fashion.

                              A win is great, and if it portends true change?? Then I'd be happy, but Dom is Dom... every PackerRat should be fully aware that he is entirely capable of coming out next week with an asinine game plan that gives up 600 yds, 40 pts, and adds up to a loss. That's who the guy is.

                              I need more than 1 game against a weak opponent before I start polishing laurels.
                              wist

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                              • Not sure if we're talking about the same thing but it seems Dom just doesn't like to show blitz in general. He'd rather blitz unexpectedly than drop into coverage unexpectedly. Maybe he doesn't think our guys are fast enough to hustle into a passing lane from the line. Maybe he thinks they aren't explosive enough to do damage without a head of steam. Maybe its to compensate for how slow developing the coverage can be in a zone blitz. Dunno.
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