Is Aaron Rodgers more of the problem than we might think?

[pbmax]

I sometimes wonder if the offense has too many route adjustments built into it. That's the only thing that would make sense in regards to hearing how the wrs need to get on the same page with Rodgers. Rather then scheme guys open with route combinations, did MM and Rodgers create an offense where everyone needs to read everything exactly the same?

This is true and how a new offense helps immediately. The original Rodgers offense were tweaks to get receivers open against adjustments to the basic plays of the offense.

Extended offense grew out of that and the no huddle.

[pbmax]

We do forget that the original two complaints against Rodgers as QB (skipping his earliest preseason games) were happy feet and holding the ball too long.

He's regressed in some interesting ways.

[Bossman641]

Some interesting stats in this article. Much more effective throwing to Adams/Cobb/Allison then the new guys.

https://www-acmepackingcompany-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/by-the-numbers/2018/12/18/18146580/aaron-rodgers-accuracy-problems-mike-mccarthy-davante-adams-chemistry-2018-season?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.acmepackingcompany.com%2Fby-the-numbers%2F2018%2F12%2F18%2F18146580%2Faaron-rodgers-accuracy-problems-mike-mccarthy-davante-adams-chemistry-2018-season

[mraynrand]

"Everything in this offense requires elite precision or the play isn’t going to work."

MAYBE RODGERS JUST WON'T THROW THE CLOSELY CONTESTED BALL TO THE YOUNGER GUYS.

"He also expects them to win contested catch situations, something Graham hasn’t done since he arrived in Green Bay and a trait Valdes-Scantling just isn’t strong enough to possess at this point in his career."

MAYBE STOP THROWING PASSES AT GRAHAM'S KNEES

[Pugger]

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/10/21/green-bay-packers-how-wide-receivers-build-trust-aaron-rodgers/1696072002/

[beveaux1]

Some interesting stats in this article. Much more effective throwing to Adams/Cobb/Allison then the new guys.

https://www-acmepackingcompany-com.c...ry-2018-season

Doesn't surprise me. I've noticed all season that he's been accurate with Adams, Cobb, Allison, and Kendricks. Not nearly as accurate with the rookies. Ok with Graham. Kendricks and Graham have done him no favors with their hands. He's done them no favors with the deep ball.

Still not convinced the rookies have the ability to progress. I'd love to see a WR drafted in the first 3 rounds.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1075232870602563584

ARod is the least accurate QB in the league this year. That's insane.

[gbgary]

Some interesting stats in this article. Much more effective throwing to Adams/Cobb/Allison then the new guys.

https://www-acmepackingcompany-com.c...ry-2018-season

well...they're probably going to part ways with cobb (which i don't think they should...he's 28) so he's only going to have more untrustworthy people around him. he's just going to have to get that BS out of his head. open is open.

[Bossman641]

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...32870602563584

ARod is the least accurate QB in the league this year. That's insane.

Not sure I'd tie accuracy to competition %. Rodgers has like double the amount of throwaways of anyone else and a lot of low % downfield shots.

[mraynrand]

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...32870602563584

ARod is the least accurate QB in the league this year. That's insane.

"EQ, you had a step and a half on your defender in the Endzone, but I threw it 5 yards further inside because you didn't accurately interpret my Chisanbop hand signal in 300microseconds at the LOS."

"MVS, you beat your guy deep by three strides, but I didn't put any air under the ball because you took an extra half stutter at the LOS and you should suffer the consequences of an imperfect route."

"Randall, you were wide open as I rolled right, but I overthrew you by 20 yards because I need to show the rookies that if you don't run perfectly precise routes, you don't get rewarded with an accurarte ball."

"Jimmy, I will start putting the ball high and in front of you when you stop rounding off patterns by 0.237 mm at the goal line. Otherwise, you'll get a contested back shoulder or knee level toss again."

[run pMc]

"EQ, you had a step and a half on your defender in the Endzone, but I threw it 5 yards further inside because you didn't accurately interpret my Chisanbop hand signal in 300microseconds at the LOS."

"MVS, you beat your guy deep by three strides, but I didn't put any air under the ball because you took an extra half stutter at the LOS and you should suffer the consequences of an imperfect route."

"Randall, you were wide open as I rolled right, but I overthrew you by 20 yards because I need to show the rookies that if you don't run perfectly precise routes, you don't get rewarded with an accurarte ball."

"Jimmy, I will start putting the ball high and in front of you when you stop rounding off patterns by 0.237 mm at the goal line. Otherwise, you'll get a contested back shoulder or knee level toss again."

LOL

Even if he's not as accurate with the newbies, the fact remains he has flat out missed/ignored reads and made some very inaccurate throws...and it's a season long thing. You can blame the rookies for some of it, but if he's so good at improvisation, why is he so inflexible about the how the route's run?

Rodgers is still an elite QB, but he has to change his ways, and Gute has to help him out.

[pbmax]

"Everything in this offense requires elite precision or the play isn’t going to work."

MAYBE RODGERS JUST WON'T THROW THE CLOSELY CONTESTED BALL TO THE YOUNGER GUYS.

"He also expects them to win contested catch situations, something Graham hasn’t done since he arrived in Green Bay and a trait Valdes-Scantling just isn’t strong enough to possess at this point in his career."

MAYBE STOP THROWING PASSES AT GRAHAM'S KNEES

He and Graham have gotten closer. The throws might be a little behind him but no longer at his bad knee.

I wonder if long throw to MVS was frustration he didn't take the route somewhere else? He saw him running somewhere else and just heaved it in frustration?

I have no idea how to explain that Cobb throw that someone posted a link to from Aaron Nagler on Twitter. I think he just might need a complete reboot. Shut him down, unplug from power, take out the battery and wait for an hour.

[Deputy Nutz]

Rodgers is an OCD asshole with a huge complex about himself having to be the smartest football player on the field. How can any of his receivers be on the same page as this guy? He has always been a stat driven guy and will protect his stats at all cost. He wants to throw touchdowns in the redzone because it makes his stats better. He only throws to wide open receivers because he refuses to risk throwing an interception, and god forbid if he does throw a pick he makes it known with body language that is was not his fault that it was the receivers fault.

[call_me_ishmael]

So is the coach killer actually gonna play this week? He says he is, but what's the upside?

[ThunderDan]

So is the coach killer actually gonna play this week? He says he is, but what's the upside?

The first part is so stupid. ARod and MM worked together for 11 years. More than any qb/coach in this era except Rapelessberger and Brady. You could argue ARod’s play may have saved MM from the hot seat numerous years.

Just R-E-L-A-X.