Official Free Agency/Offseason/Non-Draft Thread

[Guiness]

For another 1.4 million, Packers could have put 1st round tender on Tonyan. The danger is a team could offer a front loaded to Tonyan that would be difficult for the Packers to match. If a team with an early 2nd round pick gives Tonyan an offer, I wonder if Gute will gladly take the pick. Probably depends on how he feels about Sternberger.

Letting go 30 year olds with back problems at an easy to fill spot isn’t quite the same as up and coming 25 year olds at a position that usually takes 3 or 4 developmental years to be able to run block, pass block and be reliable in the passing game

I don't much like the second round tender. I get that the TE position isn't a highly valued one, but a proven performer is IMO, and he looks to be one.

lol @ team with an early 2nd round pick. Every team is a potential SB winner this time of year don't you know?

[RashanGary]

I don't much like the second round tender. I get that the TE position isn't a highly valued one, but a proven performer is IMO, and he looks to be one.

lol @ team with an early 2nd round pick. Every team is a potential SB winner this time of year don't you know?

Oh yeah, I’m with you. Tight ends pass block, run block, catch and move all over in formations. It’s probably the highest learning curve on offense. Even QBs seem to catch on quicker. Tonyan is a young and proven guy at this point. I value him more than a 2nd round pick for sure.

[RashanGary]

Tonyan might be a top 5 TE in the league. Kelce, Kittle and the guy in Oakland clearly better. After that, Tonyan is moving into the next tier of TE. I don’t want to lose him at all. A center and a TE who can block and is an actual threat as a pass catcher.....the legit TE is way more valuable than a center IMO.

[sharpe1027]

I'm not against Jones deal, but let's not kid ourselves. Ever penny spent is one that can't be spent elsewhere. It doesn't matter that the cap goes up or down. If it counts against the cap, it's an opportunity cost. The only question is whether it was well spent. We will see.

[Joemailman]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Bears are expected to sign FA QB Andy Dalton, source said. Their new starter. He gets a 1-year deal worth $10M.

Another illustrious name in Bears QB history. Actually, they've had far worse.

[Bretsky]

Another illustrious name in Bears QB history. Actually, they've had far worse.

PRETTY HILARIOUS SIGNING

[Rutnstrut]

The difference between a poor center and a good center are some big runs and pocket collapsing up the middle a few times. The difference between a poor tackle and a good tackle is constant pressure and an injured QB.

You have to see a little beyond one position. They will shift players around on the line, lose continuity and Rodgers goes down. It will happen this season unless they somehow get a decent center the spot seamlessly.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think anybody is paying big money and giving up a 2nd round pick for Tonyan. If Tonyan is going to get $10M+/year (like Jonnu Smith), I doubt he's in our long term plans anyways. They'll let him go--like they did Corey Linsley.

I've been agreeing with you a lot lately, Harvey, but not on this. I don't see it as much of a gamble - 2nd round tender versus 1st. Even if some team offers a poison pill type contract that the Packers can't or won't match, they can go above and beyond by offering a better but more team-friendly contract like the Jones deal. I expect them to do that in a year for Tonyan anyway. He definitely seems like a keeper.

[texaspackerbacker]

Another illustrious name in Bears QB history. Actually, they've had far worse.

hahahaha I was rooting for the Bears to grab Dalton for a big chunk of money. The worst case IMO from a Packer point of view is if they stick with Trubisky and the guy suddenly clicks and plays to his potential. I've always had a high opinion of Trubisky.

[sharpe1027]

You have to see a little beyond one position. They will shift players around on the line, lose continuity and Rodgers goes down. It will happen this season unless they somehow get a decent center the spot seamlessly.

Fair enough, but that seems more of an issue when there's an injury mid season then when there's a whole training camp to work it out. As you point out, they don't need to move anyone if they find one in a FA or the draft.

Letting Linsley go is a risk, but it's a calculated one

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've been agreeing with you a lot lately, Harvey, but not on this. I don't see it as much of a gamble - 2nd round tender versus 1st. Even if some team offers a poison pill type contract that the Packers can't or won't match, they can go above and beyond by offering a better but more team-friendly contract like the Jones deal. I expect them to do that in a year for Tonyan anyway. He definitely seems like a keeper.

Not if he's looking for $12m/year.

[smuggler]

The Red Rocket constitutes a huge upgrade over Trubs, but he won't improve the Barrs that much.

[texaspackerbacker]

Not if he's looking for $12m/year.

I very much doubt the price will go that high, certainly not this year, although with the much higher cap next year, who knows. And if he doesn't regress this season and maybe improves even more, he could very well be worth that much.

[Upnorth]

Adored jackson just was released yesterday by the Titans . if his physical is okay on the knee he would be an amazing addition. It would almost be lime woodson and harris again.

[KYPack]

Adored jackson just was released yesterday by the Titans . if his physical is okay on the knee he would be an amazing addition. It would almost be lime woodson and harris again.

If his knee is sound, he'd be great. (It's Adoree', BTW) Punt returns, KO returns, solid defender. He was a high number one, doubt he can work into our tattered cap situation.

This guy can even rush the footall, giving the Frenchman another toy to play with.