WHICH QUATERBACK PLAYS PLAYS ON THE GREEN BAY PACKERS TEAM LONGER ??

[bobblehead]

Although not onboard with the Love pick when it was made and still not keen on it, the action did make sense. Rodgers had been injured prior and no QB on the roster was a justified #2 to keep the ship afloat until Rodgers recovered. Thus any injury to Rodgers more than a game or two likely meant a lost season.

Taking a QB high in the draft was a pretty normal move when it's possible your QB is in the twilight of his career. His three prior years were pretty good but did have two of the three years more towards middle of the QB pack rating wise:

2019 - 81.4
2018 - 89.0
2017 - 79.2

Giving up the extra picks to move up and take Love hurt our options to add a good receiver or other play to the roster. But like TT always felt, you stay true to your board and if they had Love in the top 15 and saw him still available it kind of makes sense. Then again maybe I'm just trying to talk myself into justifying the pick.

Either way though, it's not all bad. The Packers have the potential to have found a successor to Rodgers down the road and if not, hopefully an adequate backup while we still have the MVP. There is also the option that if Rodgers is playing lights out over the next few years that if Love gets much game time (Rodgers injury or mop up) that he shows enough for some other team to offer a high pick for him.

Our history of first round picks the last ten years has been mixed anyways and so regardless of who was taken it might not have helped the team last year or even in coming years. At least with Love there still is some hope he flashes something. Then again the last few drafts which have a strong imprint from Gute are looking pretty good (although they screwed up big time on TJ).

2010 - Bryan Bulaga (good pick when healthy)
2011 - Derek Sherrod (bust due to injuries)
2012 - Nick Perry (average)
2013 - Datone Jones (bust)
2014 - Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (average although one good year)
2015 - Damarious Randall (bust although should have been played at safety)
2016 - Kenny Clark (stud)
2017 - No pick
2018 - Jaire Alexander (stud)
2019 - Rashan Gary (showing flashes and might be really good)
2019 - Darnell Savage Jr. S (showing potential but not there quite yet)
2020 - Jordan Love (has shown nothing so far but didn't have an offseason to learn)

2017 was an epic bust because every poster here wanted to simply draft TJ Watt. Instead we traded the pick for King and Biegel.

[bobblehead]

If you were Aaron would you help them if they won’t help you though? Not sure I would.

Then I would trade him. Options are restructure or lose even more talent in a bloodbath cap cut.

[bobblehead]

I think Rodgers thinks he deserves more than this; I think he wants a commitment back.

What HW is suggesting is not what AROD wants IMO based on everything I'm listening too and I do think Wilde and some of the insiders views have some credibility

And I agree that if that is all GB is offering he might not make it so easy

I repeat. If he refuses this move that harms him not one bit, then its time to move on. He would be forcing the team to cut assets that will help them win...for no reason other than pettiness. I am more convinced than ever that Rodgers isn't so bright or decent. I still recall him on 20/20 being pissed at a stranger for saying "I thought you were a little taller". He doesn't get along with his own family. If you always think EVERYONE else is wrong, its time to look in the mirror.

He is an awesome player, but in consecutive NFCC I have seen him 1) not dive on a fumble. 2) not run for the endzone with a clear path to the 2 yard line.

If he adds to this, refusing to take money upfront for no reason other than being petty....well, I would look for the best deal I could get for him.

edit: Reminds me of Favre not taking the easy 1st down in the NFCC game and throwing a game ending pick. He looked cold and ready to go home.

[bobblehead]

For all his greatness in the regular season his play in NFC Championship games is pretty poor. Its down right atrocious if you just look at the 1st half of those NFCCG games. He does a good job of padding stats after the game is pretty much over.

The real GOATS' don't shit the bed in the biggest games.

I'm both with you and against you. Correct in your assessment. However, he has played some good games and been let down as well. He brought them back in this years NFCC, not just padding stats, but having a shot to win. Then, with game on the line they abandon the run and he refused to put his body on the line. One of those is definitely his call, the other I have no idea about. Mike LaFleur is in NY and I still think its possible we send our second straight HoF QB to the Jets. They have the capital to make it happen, and a good young core...and no more Gase.

[call_me_ishmael]

Then I would trade him. Options are restructure or lose even more talent in a bloodbath cap cut.

Dude won the MVP - the team owes him some commitment and security in my opinion.

[Zool]

Dude won the MVP - the team owes him some commitment and security in my opinion.

Meanwhile Brady just voided and signed a new extension to save the team a pile of cash

[Upnorth]

Dude won the MVP - the team owes him some commitment and security in my opinion.

He is under contract for 3 more years. He was just extended in 2019 for 5 years total. He will be 41 when his contract is over.

[call_me_ishmael]

He is under contract for 3 more years. He was just extended in 2019 for 5 years total. He will be 41 when his contract is over.

The above can be true simultaneously with saying the market has shifted and his contract is out of whack with his value AND the final two years were never meant to be played out, they are essentially voidable years with the intent to either move on or renegotiate.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Brady keeps winning Super Bowls at $25M/year, and Rodgers apparently (according to Bretsky) is clamoring for more than the $35M/year he already is making.

[RashanGary]

Brady keeps winning Super Bowls at $25M/year, and Rodgers apparently (according to Bretsky) is clamoring for more than the $35M/year he already is making.

This is it. A true hero wouldn’t scrape every last dollar from his teammates.

[King Friday]

If Rodgers is asking for more money, trade him. You can't win a title by paying Rodgers more money. Trading him would get you a decent haul in return. After what Brady showed last year, lots of teams would be willing to roll the dice with Rodgers. Rodgers simply has not been able to get this team over the top in the last 6-8 years. I'm not saying it is entirely his fault, but I think his leadership skills do come into question when failures happen over and over.

[Bretsky]

You can give Rodgers more money and extend things out to make sense. That could be good for GB as well as Aaron Rodgers

[Bretsky]

Brady keeps winning Super Bowls at $25M/year, and Rodgers apparently (according to Bretsky) is clamoring for more than the $35M/year he already is making.

Rodgers IMO wants the security of being in GB long term. Did I ever say anything about about over 35MIL ? You are probably right; but I think the main thing AROD wants is a longer term committment. He's been reportedly nicer to the Luvmachine than Favre was to him....but I don't think he likes that pick much more than Favre liked him

[Bretsky]

This weekend will be interesting.

I am of the belief that AJO is good as gone.

But there aren't a ton of teams looking for RB help. Wonder if Miami pays him more than 12/yr

[Bretsky]

A CLIP FROM JS
The problem is if Rodgers is only willing to restructure if the Packers pay him more. Rodgers talked about the uncertainty of the roster after the Packers lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NFC championship game and included himself in that picture.