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  • #61
    So people want to keep the undrafted guy who's looked good in some preseason games and trade the 1st round pick before he's had a chance to play in even a preseason game? Weird.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      You can give Rodgers more money and extend things out to make sense. That could be good for GB as well as Aaron Rodgers
      I’m not interested in paying Rodgers any more money. He is under contract for three more years. He will make $33, $36, and $25M over the next three years. That is enough. If we extend him, than we can reopen salary discussions.

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      • #63
        There is no reason to extend Rodgers right now. He has 3 years left on his contract. Tom Brady played on a 2 year contract last year. He won a Super Bowl so they gave him another year. Talks about extending Rodgers should wait until after the 2022 season.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          There is no reason to extend Rodgers right now. He has 3 years left on his contract. Tom Brady played on a 2 year contract last year. He won a Super Bowl so they gave him another year. Talks about extending Rodgers should wait until after the 2022 season.
          Wait one more year for sure. Love is very mobile and made some amazing throws on the run but I watched full games and came away thinking he needs to be more consistent throwing on the move like 12 and 15 are. If he comes into 2021 and shows marked improvement in his skillset, then you let Rodgers contract run out and go to Love. If love isn’t much improved and you don’t like his chances then extend Rodgers. I’d wait one more year before I made any type of decision on the soon to be 40 year old Rodgers.
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          • #65
            The packers consistently have one of the better OLs and skill groups in football. Some of Rodgers success is team oriented success.
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            • #66
              No no no. Rodgers' success has very little to do with the O Line. On the other hand, the perception that the Packers have "one of the better OLs" has a LOT to do with Rodgers being so damn good.

              Why would people want to get rid of Love and retain Boyle instead? First and foremost, because it was a stupid mistake to draft Love at all. If getting rid of him helps to retain Aaron Rodgers longer term, the dump Love. Trading him, though, I'm thinking is the same as cutting him in the sense that it means a large ($7 or so) cap hit. So I guess we are stuck with him holding the clipboard for another year or two - then trade his ass for whatever we can get or just cut him.

              The better question is, why would anybody in their right mind even think about not extending Rodgers for as long as it is possible to do? The team goes right into the toilet when he goes if it is anytime in the foreseeable future.

              As for 1 year extensions or whatever, yeah, that sounds like an ok idea when Rodgers reaches age 43 like Brady is now.
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              • #67
                Why would I not extend Rodgers?

                1. He will be 38 years old this season.
                2. He is under contract for 3 more years.
                3. He’s getting paid $69M for the next 2 years, and $25M in the third year. No adjustments need to be made unless he is going to take less money.
                4. The odds of him playing at a high level past the age of 41 are extremely unlikely.

                I don’t think we need to do anything unless restructuring gains us some advantage. If he surprises me, we can extend like Brady a year at a time at a reduced rate. If he wants more money, the answer is no.

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                • #68
                  That's bullshit. Look at Brady - you seriously think Rodgers won't still be as good or a helluva lot better at age 41 or 43 or 45?

                  As for the money, that kind of structure - $69 million these two years (if that is accurate) then down to $25 million, it's an unusual progression. Contracts are almost always backloaded with the final year half expected to either never be reached or restructured. I'd like to see a 5 year deal - 2 beyond the current, turn this year's $35 million or so into a $40 million bonus with just a $1 million salary, and pay him $30 million each of the next four years. That would be a cap number of $9 million compared to $34.5 million (again if those numbers are accurate) - a savings of $25.5 million.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                    Why would I not extend Rodgers?

                    1. He will be 38 years old this season.
                    2. He is under contract for 3 more years.
                    3. He’s getting paid $69M for the next 2 years, and $25M in the third year. No adjustments need to be made unless he is going to take less money.
                    4. The odds of him playing at a high level past the age of 41 are extremely unlikely.

                    I don’t think we need to do anything unless restructuring gains us some advantage. If he surprises me, we can extend like Brady a year at a time at a reduced rate. If he wants more money, the answer is no.
                    Pretty much. 12 made 250 million. He's been treated fairly.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      That's bullshit. Look at Brady - you seriously think Rodgers won't still be as good or a helluva lot better at age 41 or 43 or 45?

                      As for the money, that kind of structure - $69 million these two years (if that is accurate) then down to $25 million, it's an unusual progression. Contracts are almost always backloaded with the final year half expected to either never be reached or restructured. I'd like to see a 5 year deal - 2 beyond the current, turn this year's $35 million or so into a $40 million bonus with just a $1 million salary, and pay him $30 million each of the next four years. That would be a cap number of $9 million compared to $34.5 million (again if those numbers are accurate) - a savings of $25.5 million.
                      Brady threw 3 picks at clutch moments against us. Thats all I have to say on how great Brady is still playing.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                        This is such a good idea. Be like, look man we’ll commit to you. But commit to us back. He would never. But it’s funny to think about putting the ball in his court. It’s like when favre was big timing the packers and contemplating retirement instead of coming to offseason work. Of course he wanted the teams commitment but he didn’t even want to show up for the offseason work so the commitment back was optional. A great GM will find a great QB. Period. Everyone is replaceable. No one should be big timing their teammates.
                        My prediction. If the Seahawks get a haul for Wilson they will be back in the Owl within 2 seasons. He isn't that great. He is good. He is overpaid. But move on, get a game manager for minimum salary and run the rock. Build that D back to the legion of boom days. Thats how they win.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          So people want to keep the undrafted guy who's looked good in some preseason games and trade the 1st round pick before he's had a chance to play in even a preseason game? Weird.
                          Only if it gets Rodgers to restructure for the 2 extra years at $25 million and convert his salary. In a vacuum, no, that's not what I want. With the caveat I provided, yes, Boyle is an adequate backup. The way you cherry pick a point and leave out the important parts, you should slide on over to FYI. You would fit right in with certain posters.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            Brady threw 3 picks at clutch moments against us. Thats all I have to say on how great Brady is still playing.
                            No argument there, but Brady always had a different mindset than Rodgers - maybe the primary reason Rodgers is a better QB past, present, and future. Rodgers could be playing at age 50 and not throw picks like what Brady did. Brady did play pretty damn good, though, which many including I did not expect this past season.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                              Why would I not extend Rodgers?

                              1. He will be 38 years old this season.
                              2. He is under contract for 3 more years.
                              3. He’s getting paid $69M for the next 2 years, and $25M in the third year. No adjustments need to be made unless he is going to take less money.
                              4. The odds of him playing at a high level past the age of 41 are extremely unlikely.

                              I don’t think we need to do anything unless restructuring gains us some advantage. If he surprises me, we can extend like Brady a year at a time at a reduced rate. If he wants more money, the answer is no.
                              Why we could restructure.
                              1) Rodgers just won the MVP.
                              2) Rodgers even at 41 will likely still be a $25 million a year QB (remember, I didn't advocate giving him more signing bonus or anything silly).
                              3) Rodgers stays in shape, unlike Favre.
                              4) In dealing Love in my scenario you could add draft capital back in to improve the team.
                              5) In adding 2 years and restructuring you free up cap money to improve the team.
                              6) If he falls off the cliff before the 2 seasons at $25 million kick in you can cut him and take a more modest cap hit and move on.
                              7) You can ignore his heir apparent for another 2 years with Boyle at backup for minimal money.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                                My prediction. If the Seahawks get a haul for Wilson they will be back in the Owl within 2 seasons. He isn't that great. He is good. He is overpaid. But move on, get a game manager for minimum salary and run the rock. Build that D back to the legion of boom days. Thats how they win.
                                Wilson may not be Aaron Rodgers, but he made Seattle great. If they lose him without getting somebody great in return, they will not even be a winning team within the next 2 or even 4 or 5 seasons.
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