What do we have in Jordan Love?

[Bretsky]

Wolf tree GMs have been home run hitters at the QB position. Love, a boom or bust prospect with an upside similar to Mahommes or Rodgers, is in an absolutely ideal situation to master his fundamentals and subtleties before he has to play.

The Packers took a gamble on 15 more years of possible greatness. He’s starting to shine in spurts.

I will actually feel bad for Bears and Vikings fans if we somehow luck (not all luck) into 15 more years of HOF level QB play. There’s one HOF QB picked every 3 years or so. I don’t think they would have taken him if they didn’t think there was a chance at greatness. I’m crossing my fingers. Love truly panning out is more impactful than anything Rodgers can do for the rest of his career. Let’s hope we get to see Love shine this preseason!


And if not, it’s one first round pick that could have easily been dial tone Jones, Sherrod or Harrell. No harm no foul. Good pick.

Or J Alexander. If he's a boom great pick. If he's a bust it was a shitty one. Hopefully he's a boom

[call_me_ishmael]

You are such a homer lol. Love, with Mahomes or Rodgers potential. LOL wtf, the kid was a mid-tier QB prospect in a shitty QB draft and you're comparing him to two of the most talented QBs of all time. That's a bit much. Every dark skinned kid that can throw a football a quarter mile doesn't need to be compared to Mahomes. Remember, this dude sucked ass in college and couldn't even make his shitty juco teammates better or dominate a shitty league. It's not like he was in a crap program playing in the SEC. He was at a crap program playing against fellow crap programs.

I don't see any Rodgers in him. Rodgers doesn't throw interceptions. Love is known for locking until his receivers and throwing into traffic.

The nfl.com comparison is Blake Bortles. I don't see that one either personally. Bortles is thicky thick. Physically I can see where people make the Mahomes comparison but I would say that's where it ends. That is a wildly unfair comparison.

[sharpe1027]

And Rodgers had no shot in the NFL because he's just a product of a system. Another Tedford QB bust.

Look, it's more likely the kid will flame out, but let's not pretend to know more than is possible. We don't know if he'll bust, be HOF material, or just be a decent QB. Nobody does. If anyone thinks they know for sure how he'll turn out, they're an idiot.

[texaspackerbacker]

He seems to have a lot of potential, but if he's gonna progress beyond ordinary, he needs to make a commitment to be down right Rodgers-like in terms of not throwing interceptions.

[sharpe1027]

An interesting stat:
Team records when finishing a game with 0 sacks:
2019: 49-16 (0.754)

Team records when finishing a game with 0 INTs:
2019: 153-90-1 (0.629)

[King Friday]

I completely agree on the need to pump the brakes on the Mahomes comparisons. For starters, that isn't fair to Love at this point. Give the kid some time to develop and become Jordan Love. The early feedback on his first mandatory minicamp is certainly positive. He looked like a complete rookie at times, but also made plays all across the field on occasion. For a young kid, that is a step in the right direction. He does appear to have some big play ability, which is a significant aspect as that is something that really can't be taught. You could see that early with Favre and Rodgers as well, although we'll see how the kid does in camp as things ratchet up a notch. He's clearly been working hard at it, and there is hope that he could be a very good starter.

[King Friday]

He seems to have a lot of potential, but if he's gonna progress beyond ordinary, he needs to make a commitment to be down right Rodgers-like in terms of not throwing interceptions.

Rodgers Super Bowl wins: 1
Favre Super Bowl wins: 1

I'm not sure being Rodgers-like in terms of avoiding INTs is what guarantees success. He just needs to keep his INT % under 2 percent.

[Fritz]

And Rodgers had no shot in the NFL because he's just a product of a system. Another Tedford QB bust.

Look, it's more likely the kid will flame out, but let's not pretend to know more than is possible. We don't know if he'll bust, be HOF material, or just be a decent QB. Nobody does. If anyone thinks they know for sure how he'll turn out, they're an idiot.

This is your problem right here, Sharpie. The whole point of sites like this is to pretend you know way more than you could possibly know - and when your bombast turns out to be true (probably due to luck and coincidence) you trumpet your success and how smart you are. When your "knowledge" turns out to the the bullshit it is, you just pretend you never said it and let the thread get buried.

That's what I do, and as a result I have been right so often on so many players, and I am never wrong because no one cares enough to keep track of my flow of incorrect assertions. I am currently working on rehabilitating my assertion that Rashan Gary would suck ass. On the one hand, if he doesn't break through this year I will proclaim that I knew it all along. If he does break through I will start talking about how impressive he is, and then, after some time passes, I'll casually mention that I knew he'd be great all along.

[sharpe1027]

This is your problem right here, Sharpie. The whole point of sites like this is to pretend you know way more than you could possibly know - and when your bombast turns out to be true (probably due to luck and coincidence) you trumpet your success and how smart you are. When your "knowledge" turns out to the the bullshit it is, you just pretend you never said it and let the thread get buried.

That's what I do, and as a result I have been right so often on so many players, and I am never wrong because no one cares enough to keep track of my flow of incorrect assertions. I am currently working on rehabilitating my assertion that Rashan Gary would suck ass. On the one hand, if he doesn't break through this year I will proclaim that I knew it all along. If he does break through I will start talking about how impressive he is, and then, after some time passes, I'll casually mention that I knew he'd be great all along.

You've cracked the code. You just need to play both sides of the fence. Make sure to keep enough time between position changes that nobody calls you out. You can them go back select the appropriate post and be right on every single player.

[Spaulding]

The discussion on interceptions is an interesting debate. I agree on protecting the ball and few have done it better than Rodgers, but not all interceptions are equal and not all interceptions that didn't happen equate to better play. Case in point, taking a chance downfield on 3rd and long results in an INT that is stopped 30yds downfield. Is that much worse than a punt from Scott whose net is in the high 30's? Debatable there. Also, not throwing the ball downfield and taking a sack instead? Losing yardage and then relying on your punter to change the field has it's issues too.

Also remember as much Favre drove us nuts with some of his picks (Rams playoff game being a low point along with the chuck it against Philly), he also made plays that made jump out of your seat at times and had a youthful excitement to some amazing plays.

I think Rodgers aversion to risking an INT is at times a liability. I'd love to see him take a few more chances in close games and so if Love throws 10 picks a year I'd be fine with that provided his TD ratio is at least double that and ideally triple that or more.

[RashanGary]

An interesting stat:
Team records when finishing a game with 0 sacks:
2019: 49-16 (0.754)

Team records when finishing a game with 0 INTs:
2019: 153-90-1 (0.629)

That throws a wrench in Rodgers interceptions being worth the sacks

[RashanGary]

Look, HOFers are rare, but Love was taken on upside. Wolf tree QBs have a good history of being HOFers. Im not saying he will be, but we can’t rule anything out. Just as a fan, I like to imagine the upside and hope for the best case scenario. I don’t know anything other than Love has a cannon with mobility and a history of making a lot happen without a lot to work with. It looks like he’s grinding to be better. I would put odds that he fails before becomes HOFer but as a fan I’m gonna talk about the upside before i doubt everything he does. I’ll adjust my viewpoint after seeing him in preseason. That’s when we get the first glimpse at his progress

[call_me_ishmael]

And Rodgers had no shot in the NFL because he's just a product of a system. Another Tedford QB bust.

Look, it's more likely the kid will flame out, but let's not pretend to know more than is possible. We don't know if he'll bust, be HOF material, or just be a decent QB. Nobody does. If anyone thinks they know for sure how he'll turn out, they're an idiot.

Packers have a pretty good idea

[call_me_ishmael]

That throws a wrench in Rodgers interceptions being worth the sacks

Dumb stat. Compare pressures/hurries and ints. If a QB is clean the whole game of course they’re gonna win. That is very rare.

[texaspackerbacker]

That throws a wrench in Rodgers interceptions being worth the sacks

A 1 yard loss by the QB on a pass play goes down as a sack. An interception is change of possession. It's stupid to claim a sack is as bad as a pick. I can't explain that stat except to say it defies logic - just scrambling by anti-homers trying to throw shit on Rodgers.