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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    I love #33, but he's fumbled in a lot of big games recently. Hopefully, Jordan Love is good. He'll have a good OL, Watson, Doubs, and Dillon--which are good starting blocks. Do you let Jones go, and get Bijan Robinson in the draft, if he falls to #15? Probably not. We need an edge rusher.
    No way do they let AJO go IMO. He is not only their best player but only of the best players in the league IMO. Honestly, I believe he is an MVP candidate if they give him 20 touches a game.

    To me this result is less about Rodgers and more about the Lions DL. They were dominant and he never seemed to have time. What happened to Doubs? After such a great camp and a reasonably good start he has been invisible. Lazard is a good TE. Watson needs to do something other than the deep route. I think the Packers will look at WR, TE, PR, S, OT this off-season.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by red View Post
      god damn, the reporters in the locker room sure are treating this like a retirement
      You must be a masochist if you’re watching the post game show after a Packer loss.

      I’ve already disconnected the antenna from my cheap smart TV, locked up antenna in the closet, deleted the YouTube app off said TV, turned TV off, and cancelled my PackersNews subscription.

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      • #18
        Home: Bears, Lions, Vikings, Buccaneers, Saints, Chiefs, Chargers, Rams
        Away: Bears, Lions, Vikings, Raiders, Falcons, Panthers, Broncos, Lions, Giants, Steelers

        Outside of the Chiefs, the 2023 schedule doesn't look all that bad. Good year to break in Love.

        The Vikings will play the Bengals, 49ers, and Eagles--instead of the Steelers, Rams, and Giants. The Lions will play the Ravens, Seahawks, and Cowboys. The Bears aren't really relevant, but they will play the Browns, Cardinals, and Commanders.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Look at the bright side. We were spared another playoff loss to the 49ers.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Look at the bright side. We were spared another playoff loss to the 49ers.
            Word.

            They say you can’t be prom king if you ain’t in the dance. But a playoff loss is actually more painful than not making the playoffs at all. It’s easier on the mind knowing you ain’t got a shot at Jennifer Lawrence than knowing you had a shot at her but fucked it up.

            That being said, fuck the Detroit Pussies and their redneck, F150-driving coach! I hope the Packers fuck them to hell twice next season!

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            • #21
              Is Mason Crosby washed? IDK, he seems to be a solid 45 and under kicker, but is really bad from 50+.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                Home: Bears, Lions, Vikings, Buccaneers, Saints, Chiefs, Chargers, Rams
                Away: Bears, Lions, Vikings, Raiders, Falcons, Panthers, Broncos, Lions, Giants, Steelers

                Outside of the Chiefs, the 2023 schedule doesn't look all that bad. Good year to break in Love.

                The Vikings will play the Bengals, 49ers, and Eagles--instead of the Steelers, Rams, and Giants. The Lions will play the Ravens, Seahawks, and Cowboys. The Bears aren't really relevant, but they will play the Browns, Cardinals, and Commanders.
                NFC East was the worst division last season. All 4 teams almost made the playoffs this year. Point being, it ain’t gonna be easy.

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                • #23
                  Does anyone else feel like LaFleur turtles up in must-win situations? Kind of the opposite of McCarthy to some extent there, who I think generally had folks rise to the occasion.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                    Does anyone else feel like LaFleur turtles up in must-win situations? Kind of the opposite of McCarthy to some extent there, who I think generally had folks rise to the occasion.
                    So that last INT from Rodgers is due to MLF “turtle” syndrome? MLF deserves criticism for this year, but clearly more of the blame for turtle time has to rest on 12. When was the last time he came up big in a critical game? Rodgers only wants to run the offense his way and it showed heavily this season. Looked shockingly similar to Favre’s final year in Green Bay.
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #25
                      Yet another disappointing end to the season. Many questions now and few if any answers. Should be an interesting off season..

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                      • #26
                        There is blame enough for most everyone. Early in the game when the Packers went for it on fourth down in their own territory - what the hell kind of play call was that? Calling an east-west run play with Lazard?

                        Aaron Jones's fumble was a killer. That was, at the least, a six-point swing.

                        Doubs's drop toward the end when they needed the first down was also killer. He could have gotten a big big gain had he hung on.

                        MLF never being able to solve the red-zone problems. He didn't have many answers this year, and when he did (Kesean Nixon, Joe Barry making adjustments) they came awfully late.

                        That last interception - why was there no outlet in the middle of the field for Rodgers? That space was so wide open. I thought that was one of the fundamentals of breaking a blitz - throw it to the area the blitzers came from.

                        Rodgers is not playing very well. He looks old now, and really misses lots of open receivers. He threw some real head-scratchers in that game. Outplayed by Goff, who was not great but was good enough.

                        The offensive line was pretty awful, though. What a mess. The offensive line coach pooped the bed. Stenavich seemed over his head as offensive coordinator. And mine you, they had their preferred line out there at the beginning of the game.

                        Kesean Nixon seemed to forget what got him the success he'd had in earlier games. Watch some film - the dude would catch the ball and get up the field. Against Detroit, he went east and west way too much.

                        My buddy and I commented last night that watching that game was pretty typical of watching a Packers' game for most of the year. Stalling offense, defense can't quite get them over the hump, uneven special teams, turnovers. Reminded me of the Commanders game, for one. Or the first Detroit game.

                        I for one am more than ready to move on from Rodgers. All the moaners out there during the Thompson regime who complained constantly that ol' Ted wouldn't cook the cap to try for that one big year - well, that's what Gute did. He brought in FA's, pacified Rodgers, pushed the team t salary cap hell for the next couple of years, and how'd that work out? 8 - 9. I would've preferred 8 - 9 if they'd played Love to see what they had for sure.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #27
                          I wonder how long before 12 announces his intentions? Earlier would be better I would think..

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                          • #28
                            Biggest mistake this year was not trading Rodgers for the haul Denver got. 8-9 with Love and a shit ton of picks would feel alot better this morning. Now AR retires and we get nothing, hopefully the D played bad enough last nite to seal the d co-ordinator getting fired Barry gotta go, AR gotta go, time for a fresh start.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              That last interception - why was there no outlet in the middle of the field for Rodgers? That space was so wide open. I thought that was one of the fundamentals of breaking a blitz - throw it to the area the blitzers came from.
                              He had Lazard breaking across the middle open by a step right at the first down marker.
                              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                              -Tim Harmston

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jklowan View Post
                                Biggest mistake this year was not trading Rodgers for the haul Denver got. 8-9 with Love and a shit ton of picks would feel alot better this morning.
                                Mostly agree.

                                The positive for the future could be the maturing receivers. 2022 was transition year with loss of Adams. They have a stud TE who got healthy thru 2022.

                                I think Rodgers is done, altho maybe for cap reasons he hangs on another season. It would have been helpful to the franchise if Rodgers' thumb injury was a little worse so Love could be tested for a few games.

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