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  • #46
    Originally posted by red View Post
    could you trade jones?

    he's reaching THAT age. maybe only one or two good years left

    a SB contender might be willing to trade for him
    I would like to see a Miami type blowup/rebuild. Trade Jones, Bak, Rodgers if he wants to play another year. Trade Savage for a 7th since you already gave the 5th year option. Spend next year in cap hell with youth gaining experience then be ready to sign a key piece or 2 in 2024 with Love having a year under his belt as the starter. They have really good young talent, but a cap reword is necessary at this point.
    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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    • #47
      Rodgers has the Packers right where he wants them. The more I read and think about this, AR is too vain to retire and remove himself from the spotlight. That and $60M will be very difficult for him to move on from. He might accept a trade, but not likely.

      Maybe he is ready to call it quits, but it would surprise me if he did.

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      • #48
        Get rid of all of his guys. Help him make a choice. No Luxury Automobile, Crosby, Cobb, Lazard, Tonyan, Bahktiari....

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
          Get rid of all of his guys. Help him make a choice. No Luxury Automobile, Crosby, Cobb, Lazard, Tonyan, Bahktiari....
          I'm with you except for Tonyan and Bakhtiari. Tonyan showed some signs the last few weeks of being his 2020 self, and Bakh is back.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            I'm with you except for Tonyan and Bakhtiari. Tonyan showed some signs the last few weeks of being his 2020 self, and Bakh is back.
            Money Mase is a free agent anyway, so I think they could resign him for a small fraction of the price or move on. My guess is they move on, but if ARod returns maybe they bring him back for a milly or something. That feels fair. If LA wants to return, why wouldn't they do that for a cheap deal? Dude is a really great blocker, where's the problem?

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            • #51
              Tonyan looked better, but that's saying very little.

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              • #52
                I think Crosby is done. His leg isn't what it used to be.
                Big Dog will be back if he wants to be the oldest TE in history or whatever. They like his blocking and locker room presence.
                Would rather have Bahk than Tonyan, honestly. Tonyan didn't show a lot this year, other than his speed is gone. Maybe you bring him if there's no FA interest and the draft doesn't fall your way, but I wouldn't rush to do it. 3rd and Cobb is fun but well past his prime. Lazard will get overpaid by CHI as they basically try to copy GBs tall WR fetish but with less success.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                  Get rid of all of his guys. Help him make a choice. No Luxury Automobile, Crosby, Cobb, Lazard, Tonyan, Bahktiari....
                  Haha!!! Make that fucker miserable! And I like Rodgers, but his contract pisses me off. He had two MVP seasons and put the screws straight to Gute. He forced that contract and now he’s declining. Ouch. We’re fucked.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • #54
                    Rodgers blew up the Packers winning ways. He talked about “no loyalty” and “people problems” from the Packers brass. He highlighted all the times the Packers low balled, cut, traded and moved on from long term, hard working, loyal players. He didn’t mention all the names, but Sitton, Lang, Bulaga, Nelson, Matthew’s, Cobb, etc. He watched it all go down and resentment built.

                    Rodgers is a 39 year old man who’s spent almost all of his adult life around the most cut throat work environment in the country. He had enough and wasn’t going to be another name on the list of those screwed over by the Packers. He was going to act and get his. And he did.

                    And not only did he get his, but he spread the word around the locker room. Adams, Lazard, Bakh, Cobb, Mercedes…. The guy isn’t married and has no kids. The lockerroom is his family when he’s in football season. You better believe Rodgers spread the word. He cares about those guys and he told them all…. Take every penny because they will fuck you over as soon as they find a young cheap guy to replace you!

                    Adams was like, yeah, fuck you guys, I’m out. Lazard isn’t gonna take a team friendly deal. Rodgers has spread the word that there’s no loyalty in the Packers organization and you damn well better suck every dime out of them.

                    The entire culture in the Packers locker room is to get yours now. They all know. They’ve heard it from Rodgers what a prick Gute is.

                    Gute better draft well because after Rodgers influence, it’ll be 5 years before he signs another team friendly deal. He’s not gonna win with good contracts. Bet on that one.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #55
                      its funny you mention the team is like his family

                      he doesn't talk to his family anymore cause he once heard that one of them didn't like like the chick he was dating like 7 chicks ago

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        I'm with you except for Tonyan and Bakhtiari. Tonyan showed some signs the last few weeks of being his 2020 self, and Bakh is back.
                        I don't see the upside of Tonyan as a TE; I'd like a top pass receiver there. I'll take him back if the price is right
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                          Haha!!! Make that fucker miserable! And I like Rodgers, but his contract pisses me off. He had two MVP seasons and put the screws straight to Gute. He forced that contract and now he’s declining.
                          I really think his mindset may have changed once Adams left. He was then out for nothing but himself.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            I don't see the upside of Tonyan as a TE; I'd like a top pass receiver there. I'll take him back if the price is right
                            I think they can get him on a pretty low 1 year deal. I'd like to see them keep him and draft a TE in the 2-4 round.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              I think they can get him on a pretty low 1 year deal. I'd like to see them keep him and draft a TE in the 2-4 round.
                              I am game for that as well; thinking maybe 4 MIL/Yr. Not sure he's worth much more. And then get a receiving TE with upside and some speed

                              Oh, and draft a WR in Round 1 )))
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #60
                                I sincerely doubt he is getting 4M per year. I was thinking vet minimum.

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