Off-season 2023 Banjo

[RashanGary]

The packers literally pushed 30M into this year. So after they clear 30M by pushing it into next year they’ll just be at break even. It’s not an advantage anymore.

But the way the cap inflates, there is a slight advantage paying later.

But the way the void contracts work (no comp picks) that kind of bites you in the ass.


Rodgers contract gets significantly worse if we keep him beyond this year. More than likely they’d have to rework it and add void years. They have a lot of motivation to trade though. The contract is set up for a trade this year. Too bad he’s such a weirdo and had a down year. Might not get much for a 40 year old mulling retirement and not playing so great.

[sharpe1027]

Uh ....... yeah. Have I not been totally consistent in saying the cap can be manipulated/handled/defeated?

You're absolutely correct that cap room is a factor in getting FAs signed or not. No argument there. However, I say again, IT'S FAR FROM THE ONLY FACTOR, and based on that chart, THE TEAMS WITH THE BEST CAP SITUATION - BEARS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST - STINK THE WORST, WHILE TEAMS WITH THE WORST CAP PROBLEMS - PACKERS BEING NOT MUCH BELOW THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK - ARE GENERALLY THE MOST CONSISTENT WINNERS. Do you disagree with that? No? Then why make such a big deal about the cap?

Yeah, it's not as simple as the cap doesn't matter or lower cap is good Glad you finally came around to what the rest of us have been talking about from the start

[sharpe1027]

You can't judge cap management by looking at the cap situation at one point in time. Teams that are way under the cap now will use it up. For example, they may restructure a good young player to front load their contract so later years are cap friendly. If they aren't doing that, they're wasting cap room.

[texaspackerbacker]

What????? That's what I've been saying all along hahahahahaha. It seems like you were the one trying to make such a big deal out of the cap - not that you were the only one with that damn dumb idea. Now finally you're saying it's "not as simple as the cap"? Welcome into the light, and nice example of cap manipulation. Tell Bears fans how good that lower cap is hahahahaha.

[sharpe1027]

What????? That's what I've been saying all along hahahahahaha. It seems like you were the one trying to make such a big deal out of the cap - not that you were the only one with that damn dumb idea. Now finally you're saying it's "not as simple as the cap"? Welcome into the light, and nice example of cap manipulation. Tell Bears fans how good that lower cap is hahahahaha.

Maybe I read too much into you stating teams can offer pretty much whatever they want to players. I am not sure what you mean by a big deal. I said it's at least relevant to how much two competing teams can offer a player.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, if this latest post is your position, we don't have any disagreement hahahahaha. I say again, welcome in from the dark side.

[sharpe1027]

Well, if this latest post is your position, we don't have any disagreement hahahahaha. I say again, welcome in from the dark side.

Thanks, but I haven't changed my position at all.

[call_me_ishmael]

This is the way.

https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/status/1631373870270652428

[bobblehead]

It's not zero effect, but the effect doesn't really matter at all because it can be easily overcome? Talk about splitting hairs for no apparent substantive reason.

Sharpe you god damned piece of shit, don't you know zero and nothing are entirely different!!

[bobblehead]

You can't judge cap management by looking at the cap situation at one point in time. Teams that are way under the cap now will use it up. For example, they may restructure a good young player to front load their contract so later years are cap friendly. If they aren't doing that, they're wasting cap room.

Sadly this is really hard to do because the players will play out the early years then hold out. A few teams tried it and it blew up on them. I think Antonio Brown was one example. The early money is banked along with most of the signing bonus. Now the all pro has a base $5 million contract and decides to hold out.

[texaspackerbacker]

First of all, higher character more "Packer type" guys won't do that. Secondly, if they are still worth keeping in those later years, you can restructure/kick the can down the road again, placate the guy with a nice bonus, and do it all again. Think Aaron Jones in both cases.

[bobblehead]

First of all, higher character more "Packer type" guys won't do that. Secondly, if they are still worth keeping in those later years, you can restructure/kick the can down the road again, placate the guy with a nice bonus, and co it all again. Think Aaron Jones in both cases.

I like the current method the league has rotated into. Virtually locked in 3 year deals with big backend salaries that the team can move on from or pay.

[run pMc]

First of all, higher character more "Packer type" guys won't do that. Secondly, if they are still worth keeping in those later years, you can restructure/kick the can down the road again, placate the guy with a nice bonus, and do it all again. Think Aaron Jones in both cases.

Maybe Rodgers can decide to be one of your Packer People and redo his contract so it doesn't hurt the team.

[texaspackerbacker]

Arguably that's what his current contract is. Presumably, if/when he restructures again, the whiners and detractors will AGAIN show the same rotten lack of appreciation. Yeah, they seem to be justified by the overall badness, including but certainly not limited to Rodgers last season, but just wait and see. If Rodgers plays great this season, I bet a lot of the shitheadedness will continue in here.

[run pMc]

Yes let's appreciate a $50M QB who can't crack the top 10 in most metrics (basic or advanced), especially since we've never appreciated him before.

Appreciation? That's what we do most games, and that's what the $300M they've already paid him, and a future spot in the HOF and Packers HOF is.

He's been appreciated plenty. Trading a player doesn't mean you don't appreciate them... just that they aren't a fit on your team anymore. Those are two different things.

I suspect you were booing Rodgers and screaming about them getting rid of an "unappreciated" Favre. Doubt you'd admit it either way.