New Mexico Dragons

[MJZiggy]

Is there anything new going on in scouting? I'm not thrilled about this whole Culpepper not being ready idea. What's the game plan until he's ready?

[Bretsky]

Is there anything new going on in scouting? I'm not thrilled about this whole Culpepper not being ready idea. What's the game plan until he's ready?

Brian Griese

[Bretsky]

1. Reggie Bush
2. DeAngelo Williams
3. Lawrence Maroney
4. LenDale White
5. Brian Calhoun
6. Joseph Addai
7. Maurice Drew

Here was my initial top 10 for RBs:

1. Reggie Bush
2. DeAngelo Williams
3. Laurence Maroney
4. LenDale White
5. Joseph Addai
6. Jerious Norwood
7. Brian Calhoun
8. Maurice Drew
9. Jerome Harrison
10. Leon Washington

I've noticed lately more and more ratinngs have Calhoun moving up to the #5 position after White. Pass receiving wise this guy sticks out.

[MJZiggy]

I thought White's stock fell apart after it was announced he has a tear...

[Deputy Nutz]

I still think that White will go in the first round, especially if he does well on some visits and shows teams that he is still staying in shape. He doesn't need surrgery which is a really good thing.

Griese is the option right now if Culpepper doesn't make it, infact I am more comfortable with Griese running this young team than I am with Culpeeeper, but don't tell Bretsky that, I am only supposed to be handling the college scouting.

[MJZiggy]

So who are we looking at in the later rounds? What do we still need?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I thought White's stock fell apart after it was announced he has a tear...

No way does Calhoun go before Addai. Addai is a complete back who has the size to play four downs. I see Calhoun as a change of pace, third down back.

[imscott72]

I thought White's stock fell apart after it was announced he has a tear...

No way does Calhoun go before Addai. Addai is a complete back who has the size to play four downs. I see Calhoun as a change of pace, third down back.

Sounds like White has gotten lazy. His stock will fall and for good reason. I say we stay away. Sounds like another Cledius to me. I also think the kid from Minny is the real deal.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The QB draftboard that I compiled. This isn't Nutz's board. He'll make all final decisions, but I thought I'd throw out each position, and people can throw their two cents in--not that Nutz will listen. I'll roll out each position as I can.

A  B                                 C    D    E    F    G    H   I   J   K   L
1  Matt Leinart, USC                 2    1    1    1    1    2   1   1   1   1.40
2  Vince Young, Texas                1    2    2    2    3    3   2   2   3   1.60
3  Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt            3    3    3    3    2    1   3   3   2   3.00
4  Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson       4    6    5    5    6    7   4       4   4.90
5  Brodie Croyle, Alabama            5    5    4    6    4    8   6   4   5   5.00
6  Kellen Clemens, Oregon            8    7    8    7    5   10   8   5       7.55
7  Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green       10    4    7    4         5   5           6.85
8  Reggie McNeal, Texas A&M         11    8    9    8         4   9           9.35
9  Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo         12    9   10   10    8    6   7          10.50
10 Tarvaris Jackson, Alabama State   6   13   16   15    9                   10.95
11 D.J. Shockley, Georgia            9   11    6   17                        10.35
12 Darrell Hackney, UAB              7   15   14    9    7       10          10.75
13 Brett Basanez, Northwestern      13   17   12   11                        13.75
14 Paul Pinegar, Fresno State       14   12   18   16                        14.30
15 Erik Meyer, Eastern Washington   16   19   13   13                        16.00
16 Marcus Vick, Virginia Tech       15   16   17   12         9              15.15
17 Ingle Martin, Furman             19   14   11   19                        16.30
18 Drew Olson, UCLA                 21   10   22   18                        17.40
19 Barrick Nealy, Texas State       17   18   20   14                        17.30
20 Bruce Eugene, Grambling State    18   20   19   20   10                   19.05
21 Brett Elliott, Linfield College  22   21   15   20                        20.35
22 Matt Baker, North Carolina       20   22   21   21                        20.90

The columns are:
A My Rank
B Player, College
C PFW Rank
D ESPN Rank
E Fox Sports Rank
F NFL Draft Countdown Rank (from a former scout)
G Dallas Morning New's Rick Gosselin's Rank
H PPO Rank
I KFAN Rank
J Mel Kiper's Rank
K CBS SportsLine's Rank
L Weighted Total of the first four sites.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is the Value Board I have for QBs. This gives us a good idea of when we'd want to draft each player.

1st Round
1 Matt Leinart, USC
2 Vince Young, Texas
3 Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt

2nd Round
4 Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson

3rd Round
5 Brodie Croyle, Alabama
6 Kellen Clemens, Oregon
7 Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green

4th Round
8 Reggie McNeal, Texas A&M
9 Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo
10 Tarvaris Jackson, Alabama State

5th Round
11 D.J. Shockley, Georgia
12 Darrell Hackney, UAB

6th Round
13 Brett Basanez, Northwestern
14 Paul Pinegar, Fresno State
15 Erik Meyer, Eastern Washington

7th Round
16 Marcus Vick, Virginia Tech
17 Ingle Martin, Furman
18 Drew Olson, UCLA
19 Barrick Nealy, Texas State

Free Agent
20 Bruce Eugene, Grambling State
21 Brett Elliott, Linfield College
22 Matt Baker, North Carolina

[MJZiggy]

I notice you have Young above Cutler. Do you think that Young is better suited to a WCO?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I notice you have Young above Cutler. Do you think that Young is better suited to a WCO?

I was actually close to putting Young above Leinart, but didn't. We won't get either, so it wasn't much of a consideration. I think Cutler is overhyped after watching him workout at the combine. I think his accuracy is a little questionable--which wouldn't be a good thing for the WCO either.

[Partial]

wow, you guys are thorough!

[MJZiggy]

And we need help. We still have coaching positions open. Need a "job?"

[HarveyWallbangers]

So, we are in agreement on the QBs?


RBs

1  Reggie Bush, USC                     1    1    1    1    1   1   1   1   1    1.00
2  DeAngelo Williams, Memphis           3    2    3    2    2   2   2   2   3    2.55
3  Laurence Maroney, Minnesota          2    4    4    4    3   5   3   3   2    3.20
4  LenDale White, USC                   4    3    2    3    4   4   4   4   5    3.25
5  Joseph Addai, LSU                    5    5    5    5    5   3   5            5.00
6  Brian Calhoun, Wisconsin             6    6    9    7    9   8   6   5        6.60
7  Maurice Drew, UCLA                  10    7    7    6    6   6   8       4    8.05
8  Jerious Norwood, Mississippi State   7   10    8    8    7   7   7            8.20
9  Leon Washington, Florida State       8    8   12    9   10   9                8.75
10 Jerome Harrison, Washington State   11    9    6   13    8                    9.95
11 Andre Hall, South Florida            9   11   13   12       10               10.65
12 Wali Lundy, Virginia                20   14   14   10                        15.80
13 Gerald Riggs, Tennessee             16   13   21   16            9           15.85
14 DonTrell Moore, New Mexico          14   17   10   11                        13.85
15 Wendell Mathis, Fresno State        13   12   22   19                        14.95
16 PJ Daniels, Georgia Tech            12   18   16   21                        15.75
17 Taurean Henderson, Oregon           15   19   17   14                        16.35
18 Mike Bell, Arizona                  17   22   11   15                        17.30
19 Cedric Humes, Virginia Tech         18   16   20   17                        17.55
20 Quinton Ganther, Utah               21   23   15   18                        20.25
21 Derrick Ross, Tarleton State        22   20   23   23                        21.70
22 Cory Ross, Nebraska                 23   15   24   24                        20.90
23 Terrence Whitehead, Oregon          27   21   18   20                        22.80
24 Arliss Beach, Kentucky              19   27   25   25                        23.20
25 Ryan Gilbert, Houston               25   24   27   22                        24.55
26 Patrick Cobbs, North Texas          24   25   26   26                        24.90
27 Chris Taylor, Indiana               26   26   19   27                        25.10