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Originally posted by Pacopete4
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Other than the poorly stated article, Cleft is one of a kind reporter. -
It's nice to see that 'Ole Clefty is having enough impact to get others to bring forward old threads. Thanks for remembering me. Pacopete, I appreciate your taking time to comment, although the hostility may be misplaced. Sorry 'Ole clefty wasn't here for the postgame chat after the Chiefs game, but I look forward to future chats and look forward to my article on the Detroit Lions, which I will post in the upcoming days. Keep the 'fan mail' coming - it's important to an old fossil like me, suffering from gout, to know that you all still tune in.Comment
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Well, Cleft we have all been incorrect in forecasting events. If the future was easily read there would be no gambling. I am happy the Packers have surpassed most offseason expectations.Originally posted by Cleft Crusty
Actually, I was looking for old threads regarding "Ted Thompson's failure to sign free agents" gripes when I spotted your article. Given Brett's fairly successful season I thought it would be fun to look at it again.
If I had written something similar I would have done it to myself. I did not do it to bring hostility to you or solicit it. It was done to get people to enjoy good fortune. Some will complain that 16-0 isn't good enough. Most have trouble looking around and saying "Things are good."
To cheer you up a bit, gout doesn't keep you off the keyboard. I recently broke and screwed up my right hand/arm. Typing left handed is slow and frustrating. It is costing me income also. We should all appreciate what we have before it is too late.
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ya my comments werent nice.. so sorry about that but i just cant stand the dumbass comments u made after the bears game.. and now that i read more.. there seems to be even more dumb things you have written.. everyone does it but u just seem to never be rightComment
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Clueless? NEWBIE!!!!!Originally posted by Pacopete4
That is who Cleft is, Sarcastic bad ass!Comment
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Cleft now that the season is over... Want to take back your comments???
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he wont admit it.. he'l come back with something how Kyle Orton and Brian Griese outplayed Favre this year and how the Bears are the more talented and better team... hes a fraud i tell yaComment
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(you do realize he's a parody, right?)"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg JenningsComment
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on some things he is.. yes, but he really felt that way after the first bears game, he'l say he's kidding so that he never has to admit he doesnt know a thing about footballComment
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Hi Folks,
Cleft Crusty here, noting that some Favre criticism has sprung up on the Rodgers thread. In particular, Tarlam! wrote:
"Regardless of the numbers Favre sucked. Grant was worse. No wonder the Packer brass are struggling to sign Grant. That last game was abysmal.
And yes, Favre threw for 240. He still sucked. At no time during that game did I feel he was in a position to win. He played like a loser, he lost. Go ahead and stone me. I know what I saw. i saw a loser. I love Favre. I love my son and my daughter, too. Don't meen I am blind to their faults."
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So true - Favre had a horrible second half against the Giants, but that was to be expected given Favre's late season swoons and playoff debacles over the past several years. Posted below is my column from right after the loss in Dallas - unpublished on Packerrats until this day.Comment
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Aaron Rodgers Era Starts Now
The time for the Aaron Rodgers era must start now. Brett Favre is a tremendous quarterback having a tremendous year, but there’s just one fly in the ointment: he cannot and will not win in Dallas. Ever. This bears repeating: In the world of sports where ‘nothing is certain’ and on any given Sunday any team can defeat any other team, the horrible reality for Packer fans is the absolute certainty that they will never see Brett Favre defeat the Cowboys in Texas Stadium. During his tenure as Packer Field General,Favre has developed several bad habits that are all magnified on Cowboy FieldTurf. Most debilitating of these is that somewhere along the line Favre has developed a fear of getting hit. Favre used to relish hard hits; getting jacked up stoked Favre’s competitive fires. Obliterate Favre on a bootleg against Tampa Bay in the 90s and he’d come back three plays later with a TD strike to Antonio Freeman. ,But now, either because of old age, because of accumulated hard hits, or possibly even because there is no comforting vicodin or alcohol buzz to soften the blows, Favre would rather leave the field than take a hit. In the Divisional matchup with Philly in 2003, Favre saw a first down blitz headed his way and chose to bail out, tossing a prayer of a pass high into the still, silent frozen air of Lincoln Financial Field, hoping Irv Favre would somehow guide his errant lob to Javon Walker. The alternative, a devastating sack, was unthinkable. The next year, Favre had an opportunity to launch himself into the end zone against the hated Vikings on a QB scramble - A move he would never have second-guessed in 1994 when he defeated the Atlanta Hawks in the final game at County Stadium. But Favre passed on the run and passed beyond the line of scrimmage. Instead of winning with his feet and heart, Favre bailed out and was charged with a game-changing penalty, disheartening teammates and fans throughout Lambeau Field and PackerNation all over the globe. It was apparent then that the Favre beloved by so many for so many years was no more – he had become a mere specter of his former self, stripped of that unflappable uninhibited playmaker that formerly ruled the NFL. Why bail out on those game changing plays? After all, Elway sold out his body in SB XXXII, why couldn’t Favre do the same when a playoff game was on the line? Perhaps because he had never won it all, the urgency, the hunger was greater for Elway. But for Favre, who has achieved everything a QB can achieve, perhaps the thinking was: “Why get myself killed when I have the SB win, the MVPs, and most of the QB records?” The grit, determination, and willingness to toss himself in the fray for a critical yard, or the readiness to endure the savage sack – all these attributes Favre used to have were apparent not in Brett Favre, but in the vital play of Aaron Rodgers in Dallas last Thursday. Rodgers tossed his body forward and was propellered on a first down scramble, took the big hit in the pocket -and held the ball, and lived to throw another pass. Favre got hit a few times in the first quarter and in lieu of sacks mentally checked out, lobbing up tosses into the Dallas evening sky as though he was conducting pop fly practice for little leaguers.
General Manager Ted Thompson arrived in Green Bay with a philosophy that no veterans were safe from his critical scrutiny. If he thought a position needed an upgrade, he’d go out and get his guy. For him, that guy was Aaron Rodgers. Upgrading Favre was so critical to Thompson that he used his first pick ever as a GM to take him. Now that pick must pay dividends. Rodgers has all the qualities that the young Favre had – he’s fearless, he’ll scramble when necessary and he’ll hang in the pocket and take the massive hit if the pass isn’t open. Favre, on the other hand will reach and try to make the big throw when an easier option is available. Favre even said it himself in his “In their own words” segment that is also included as a DVD in his most recent money-making tome. Favre claims that he’d rather throw the harder pass to the covered receiver “because it’s more challenging.” This attitude had solidified itself in Favre’s psyche like the atherosclerosis in his middle -aged arteries. For a while this year, Packer fans had a respite from this behavior and some were convinced McCarthy had purged these self-destructive tendencies from Favre’s game. But it was a mere façade, and the awful truth is that these tendencies are encoded in Favre DNA and will never be expunged. To be sure, Favre has the ability to continue his great play that has been on display in all non-Bear and non-Cowboy games this year, and he is a better option than Rodgers in all remaining games, including a likely Divisional playoff game at home. But he won’t win in Dallas. Thus, McCarthy and Thompson must make the hard decision and replace Favre now. They can use his injury as an excuse to excuse him from playing. In five games, Rodgers can be groomed to play that all-important game in Dallas and perhaps against New England in the Superbowl. If McCarthy and Thompson don’t make this choice, they and all Packer fans may as well reserve seats for another tragic opera in Texas Stadium. Brett Favre has now had nine performances on that artificial stage and each performance bombed. It’s time for the understudy.Comment
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So, is a brilliant performance against Seattle after Grant fumbled the ball away twice also part of the "expected debacle" that Favre turned in during last season's playoffs?Originally posted by Cleft CrustyMy signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?Comment
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Leaper,Originally posted by The Leaper
Favre's performance and leadership in the Divisional game was outstanding. As was his performance at home against Seattle in 2003 and San Fran in 2001 (Some may forget, but in the OT against Seattle, Favre threw a beautiful deep ball across the field to Ahman Green, one play before the Packers had to punt the ball away. Green let the ball slip through his fingers, but it was a perfect pass. Read my article and comments carefully. My critique of Favre is harsh at times, but is not an all-or-none. I predicted Favre would have ups and downs in 2007, and that they would most likely be game by game. The Divisional Game was outstanding, while the Giants game was subpar. The Packers were playing a team that was playing better on that day and they needed the Brett Favre from the previous week, not a so-so Brett Favre. The same could be said about the Divisional game in 2001 and 2003, although in both those games, like the Giants game Favre was good enough in the first half, far worse in the second. Seems like there is a pattern there.Comment
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Not as a criticism of Favre's performance, but Grant's performance as a runner was more "brilliant" than Favre's as a passer. Grant had more yards, and both had 3 TDs. Grant even had more rushing attempts than Favre had passing attempts.Originally posted by The Leaper
In spite of the early fumbles, Grant was "brilliant" in that game. The character of that game was decided by the Packers running game, and Grant in particular.Comment
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Cleft Crusty quoted me. I have been knighted.
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