Favre criticizes Packers' failed attempt at trading for Moss

[Scott Campbell]

Brett Favre has more than earned the right to speak his mind about everything and anything involving the Green and Gold. Anyone who says differently is just looking to "enable" Thompson.

I'd have felt the exact same way about this if Favre had criticized Shermy's knuckheaded move to trade up to grab BJ. Players shouldn't criticize the organization publically. Period.

I think the anti-TT bias has clouded the judgement of some.

[Patler]

Maybe Favre felt it was time. He's been hung out on a line for what, 3 yrs. now?

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He KNOWS he is no longer the future of the Green Bay Packers, and he can't stand it! He can't accept that they are actually planning to go on without him, drafting a QB for the future, building the base for the team for years from now, etc. Consequently, he seeks constant reaffirmation from the team that they still "love Brett Favre".

Many great athletes wind down their careers badly. Only some, like John Elway, aknowledge their declining importance in the overall scheme of things, adapt their play to their declining abilities, and accept their position as a supporting role to others. Ironically, if they do that, the time inevitably seems to come, as it did for Elway, when they in fact are called on to make "the play" in a key situation. Its not in every game as when they were the key, but it comes nevertheless.

[BallHawk]

I think the anti-TT bias has clouded the judgement of some.

Definitely. It's gotten to the point that, no matter what TT does, it's either not enough or the wrong move.

[BallHawk]

Question to everyone who thinks Favre speaking out is right....

If any other player on the Packers said this, would it be acceptable?

[Rastak]

Maybe Favre felt it was time. He's been hung out on a line for what, 3 yrs. now?

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He KNOWS he is no longer the future of the Green Bay Packers, and he can't stand it! He can't accept that they are actually planning to go on without him, drafting a QB for the future, building the base for the team for years from now, etc. Consequently, he seeks constant reaffirmation from the team that they still "love Brett Favre".

Many great athletes wind down their careers badly. Only some, like John Elway, aknowledge their declining importance in the overall scheme of things, adapt their play to their declining abilities, and accept their position as a supporting role to others. Ironically, if they do that, the time inevitably seems to come, as it did for Elway, when they in fact are called on to make "the play" in a key situation. Its not in every game as when they were the key, but it comes nevertheless.

Jerry Rice comes to mind on poor exits for hall of famers......

[BallHawk]

Maybe Favre felt it was time. He's been hung out on a line for what, 3 yrs. now?

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He KNOWS he is no longer the future of the Green Bay Packers, and he can't stand it! He can't accept that they are actually planning to go on without him, drafting a QB for the future, building the base for the team for years from now, etc. Consequently, he seeks constant reaffirmation from the team that they still "love Brett Favre".

Many great athletes wind down their careers badly. Only some, like John Elway, aknowledge their declining importance in the overall scheme of things, adapt their play to their declining abilities, and accept their position as a supporting role to others. Ironically, if they do that, the time inevitably seems to come, as it did for Elway, when they in fact are called on to make "the play" in a key situation. Its not in every game as when they were the key, but it comes nevertheless.

Jerry Rice comes to mind on poor exits for hall of famers......

Rice still had some ability until he left for Seattle. At that point, everybody knew he didn't have it, except him. Maybe he did know he didn't have it, but couldn't hang 'em up. Maybe that's how Favre feels....

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Favre

Well then we disagree. Favre earned the right to say whatever the hell he wants to say. He earned it by playing with injuries when NO ONE else in this league would have even tried. He earned it by having a career game on national tv after his father died. He has earned the right by giving us everything he has. It's very sad that people like you take these things for granted like it means nothing at all..........

The definition of right vs. wrong shouldn't change just for him because of his resume.

[Scott Campbell]

I am simply suprised that more people are not speaking up and calling for Thompsons head. Suggesting Favre has no right to speak up.........unreal!

See previous lynch mob comments.

[GrnBay007]

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He called out Walker for not sticking to his contract.....is that bad?

He KNOWS he is no longer the future of the Green Bay Packers, and he can't stand it! He can't accept that they are actually planning to go on without him, drafting a QB for the future, building the base for the team for years from now, etc. Consequently, he seeks constant reaffirmation from the team that they still "love Brett Favre".

He wants to win. The QB is there. Why is it so bad to want to go out on a winning season?

[Scott Campbell]

If Favre wanted it his way, he either needed to retire early OR become a scout on his way to the GM chair.

T2 may be wrong, but he's got the job title. Reading devious personal motives into each move ignores the simpler reality. The Packers needed to rebuild, Favre or no.

Totally agree.

[Rastak]

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He called out Walker for not sticking to his contract.....is that bad?

Doing it publicly was bad, in my opinion. Had he called him on it privately it would have made more sense.

[Scott Campbell]

And I think we have confirmation that all this retirement talk from Favre starting in 2001 or 2002 with Michael Silver in Sports Illustrated was a ploy to keep the heat on the team to win now. Sherman was powerless to resist it as both the coach and GM, Thompson is ignoring it.

I am amazed he is ignoring it so completely, not even making window dressing moves, but I admire his committment to his philosophy.

The tragedy is that neither may get want they want. Favre might have to force a trade if he is unwilling to play out the string hoping for rebuilding to take root.

Thompson, if the lynch mob had their way, might not see the rebuilding project finished.

Terrific post - especially the powerless to resist Sherman comment.

[PackerBlues]

Favre is 37 years old, has been part of sports teams all his life and has been a pro for nearly half his life. A 17-year employee in any job that has public influence on his employer should understand the ramifications of what he says and does. Favre has set himself up in controntation to TT, and he knows it. Unless he is really, really unintelliigent, he did it on purpose, for whatever his reasons.

Favre has been a great QB, that does not mean he knows anything about running a team. His repeated off-season negative comments last year and this about what the Packers are doing does undermine the team to at least some extent, and I will not pretend that it doesn't.

I have dealt with pro athletes. For all their god-given physical talent, it seems like the vast majority sacrificed or were not given common sense.

You have dealt with Pro Athletes? Joy for you. Favre has been a Pro Athlete for half of his life. Half of his life for the Green and Gold. If one were not completely full of ones own self, one might think that Favre might have learned a thing or two about what it takes to field a winning team.
Favre's comments are undermining the team? No, they undermine Ted Thompson. Huge difference. I am more than sure that Brett understands how his comments come across, and the only person I see suffering from such comments is your beloved Ted Thompson. The ball is now in Thompsons court to respond. I am suprised it took Favre this long to say anything, I am glad that he spoke up. I seriously doubt that at this point Favre cares about being in a "confrontation" with Thompson. Whats teddy going to do? Cut him? Trade him? He doesnt have the balls!!!

[falco]

I think you are being a bit naive in you reverence for Favre. He has been complaining about the off season activities of the team for three years, not qietly sitting back, saying nothing. If he wants weapons so badly, why did he alienate Walker?

He called out Walker for not sticking to his contract.....is that bad?

Doing it publicly was bad, in my opinion. Had he called him on it privately it would have made more sense.

I was thinkikng the same thing. Not that I blame Favre for Walker's holdout, but i wonder if his public statements made it that much harder for TT to work something out, or gave J-Walk additional fuel for his antics.

[Scott Campbell]

He wants to win. The QB is there. Why is it so bad to want to go out on a winning season?

There's a difference between wanting to win, and publically calling out your GM for being a dumbass. I don't mind him lobbying internally. I do mind him running his mouth in the press.

You don't hear the organization publically whining about Favre's stupid interceptions. Brett should show them the same courtesy.