Roster rehab, creative coaching lead to Packers' turnaround

[MJZiggy]

Ted Thompson makes and offer and it's simply a matter of informing the man in Oakland (wasn't it Al Davis mj?) to get back to him with all effort if any other team better's his (TT's offer).

And you know he didn't do that how? You know that Al Davis didn't just decide not to inform him that another offer had been made exactly how? I wouldn't deem Al Davis to be the most trustworthy man in America, Buck. And you know better to think that I'd slam you for either your nationality or any other reason that didn't have anything to do with this discussion. Not my style and kind of a low shot to suggest it, don't you think? So far you've failed to back yourself up enough to convince me, though. It's gonna take better than an assumption.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm so sick of you Scott.

I LOVE you Woody.

[packrat]

I've been in negotiations where a deal has been put on the table upon condition it be accepted NOW, without informing the other bidder, or the deal is off the table. If I was NE, that is exactly how I'd have made my offer to avoid being outbid. Does anyone have any evidence that NE said, "Here's our offer, we'll keep it open until you've shopped it around."?

[MJZiggy]

I've been in negotiations where a deal has been put on the table upon condition it be accepted NOW, without informing the other bidder, or the deal is off the table. If I was NE, that is exactly how I'd have made my offer to avoid being outbid. Does anyone have any evidence that NE said, "Here's our offer, we'll keep it open until you've shopped it around."?

Woodbuck knows what happened. He has hard proof. He's gonna share it with us any moment now.

[Bretsky]

I've been in negotiations where a deal has been put on the table upon condition it be accepted NOW, without informing the other bidder, or the deal is off the table. If I was NE, that is exactly how I'd have made my offer to avoid being outbid. Does anyone have any evidence that NE said, "Here's our offer, we'll keep it open until you've shopped it around."?

Are you saying TT should have considered doing this to avoid being New England'ed ??

It's over; we're much better record wise then any of us thought we would be.

It's been a nice run and hopefully it'll continue for a while.

[Bretsky]

I've been in negotiations where a deal has been put on the table upon condition it be accepted NOW, without informing the other bidder, or the deal is off the table. If I was NE, that is exactly how I'd have made my offer to avoid being outbid. Does anyone have any evidence that NE said, "Here's our offer, we'll keep it open until you've shopped it around."?

Woodbuck knows what happened. He has hard proof. He's gonna share it with us any moment now.

It's all done. You don't know the exact details and neither does Woody.

But the facts show that NE got it done and GB did not.

If Woody wants to criticize TT for that fact he certainly can.

[MJZiggy]

Yes he can, but he cannot call me stupid for having a differing opinion. What you just said is exactly the point I want him to understand. He has no idea what happened any more than anyone else. Criticize if he wants, but don't call those who disagree on the same information ignorant because if he does, I for one will want to be enlightened.

[Scott Campbell]

What you just said is exactly the point I want him to understand.

What is it about Woody that makes you think he's capable of understanding anything?

[GrnBay007]

Yes he can, but he cannot call me stupid for having a differing opinion. What you just said is exactly the point I want him to understand. He has no idea what happened any more than anyone else. Criticize if he wants, but don't call those who disagree on the same information ignorant because if he does, I for one will want to be enlightened.

....and nobody has called him stupid for his views?? It has gone both ways for months and months and months.....maybe time to let it go. Why continue this battle? We are all Packer fans obviously....some people have different opinions.......and that's ok....even in real life....really!!

[Deputy Nutz]

CVCan't you simply admit that Ted Thompson blew on that weak attempt to acquire Randy Moss.

It's baqck to that Poker game analogy mj.

Sometimes a decent poker player has to go all in when the value is in the hand and the pot will reward.

Ted Thompson wasn't in the game on that hand mj. A goo0d GM can,t be3 that and half heartedly go about his business.

Define "all in." If you wanna convince me TT made a mistake, you're gonna have to convince me of what mistake he made, not make poker analogies. I don't want "shoulda got him," You think he made a mistake, I want you to tell me EXACTLY what he did wrong. So define it for me.

Two teams were actively bidding on Moss, two, the Pats, and the Pack. I guess along with the Packers there were 30 other teams out their that had GMs that blew it with Randy Moss. Even considering bringing Randy Moss in to Green Bay was a huge step, Randy Moss isn't the most liked player that has ever graced Lambeau Field, and image the media outcry if Randy Moss proved to be a jack off in Green Bay? Thompson would have been hanged in effigy.

But you don't want to see that side, do you Woody? You simply want to be an attention whore by keeping up the same argument over and over again. Like I said if you're so much of a fucking idiot that you can't see past Randy fucking Moss, then you better question what kind of fucking Packer fan you are.

Hey Nutz.

Don't lay your heavy handed weak ass BS on me. Who in hell do you think you are? Were you into the sauce when you made that post. Your certainly not goin to challenge me successfully Nutz with your onipotence that is tired.

I'll take my position with OUR GM just as I see it Nutz.

You are over the top too prejudiced on the likes of Randy Moss and Terrell Owens to possible question whether or not your a bigot and a Redneck? Don't ever imagine that your tactics and I have to take stock of my Packer fanism will ever shake with me.

I'm as solid a Packer fan as you are mister, and just as qualified to use whatever I see as proof that Ted Thompson isn't the best slice of cheese so far in his tenure as our GM.

Maybe we should take a really close lookat all those terrific draft picks.ealy examine him for what is deemed noteable about his skills as a GM.

What a joke that will make of the delusion Ted Thompson and Master of the Draft that exists and deludes so many on this forum except those of us that have no fear to express the facts.

Nutz.You have never intimadated me Man. Get that and straighten up.

PACKERS FOREVER!

Take your emoticons and shove them, I look to intimidate nobody on a fucking fan forum you delusional retard. Don't tell me what to look like and don't question if I am redneck or a bigot because I see reason why Ted Thompson didn't trade or sign a black player, that is as ridiculous as all the other Bull shit you attempt.

Seriously you are a fucking joke around here, nobody takes you seriously anymore because you turn every conversation into a hate filled speech about Ted Thompson, not unlike Tank, sad is you, actually thinking you make sense.

What makes sense to me is 12-3, bottom line look at the numbers, I guess you let other things cloud your vision as you attempt to look intelligent by side stepping the obvious turn around of this franchise.

I never tried to convince you, I just wanted to make sure nobody else around he bought into your heretical nonsense. Seems the support I have gotten previously in this thread for my responses have been nothing but positive, not that I need anyone to tell me, but I don't see anyone jumping to your side of things, maybe you should find a smarter Packer Forum, I believe Tank is still running around JSO, you could hook up with him, and each of you could post everyday this misgivings of Ted Thompson.

I suppose you got what you wanted, another loss to prove your point that Ted Thomson is the joke you believe he is to be. Thanks for rooting against the Pack for your own selfish reasons.

[packinpatland]

Can you believe we're in the supposed 'season of joy'?

[Deputy Nutz]

Can you believe we're in the supposed 'season of joy'?

Are you talking about the Packers season of joy? Or the holiday season of joy?

[RashanGary]

Woodbuck, you have always had the decency to treat people directly rather than in sneaky backhanded ways. Whether I disagree or agree with you, I have absolutely no need to fight back because I don't feel like you've ever treated me with disrespect and I'm the biggest Thompson lover of them all so I think I have credibility when it comes to relevant criticism.


I didn't liek the quality christian remark because I knew it was meant to stir shit but other than that, I've always felt you make the forum more fun and interesting.


In defense of the attacks on you, I think people get rolling with the mob mentality or they feel they need to redeem themselves so they might be harder on you than you deserve. I don't think you should feel defensive, but I know how you would. There are some posters who's personalites just urk me. Anything they say to me bothers the piss out of me Don't let a couple people get to you Woody. They aren't even really attacking you. I know I'll say things that are jabs but I don't even really want to jab at the person, I'm just wanting to prove an old point and maybe rub it in a little . That's probably what everyone is doing to you.

[GrnBay007]

Can you believe we're in the supposed 'season of joy'?

Unreal, huh?

What makes sense to me is 12-3

That's all that should make sense to all Packer fans. Why argue the silly BS?

The TT argument has become similar to religion and politics......after 94 months it's time to agree to disagree.

[Bretsky]

Yes he can, but he cannot call me stupid for having a differing opinion. What you just said is exactly the point I want him to understand. He has no idea what happened any more than anyone else. Criticize if he wants, but don't call those who disagree on the same information ignorant because if he does, I for one will want to be enlightened.

....and nobody has called him stupid for his views?? It has gone both ways for months and months and months.....maybe time to let it go. Why continue this battle? We are all Packer fans obviously....some people have different opinions.......and that's ok....even in real life....really!!

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