Roster rehab, creative coaching lead to Packers' turnaround

[MJZiggy]

Just read this whole thread.

Damn. Tank must have done a good job with his Anti-Polar Bear stuff. Thompson proponents seem to be saying that you are not a Packer fan if you criticize TT.

Not sure I'd go quite that far, Tank's been gone for a while, but there was a bit of, shall we say, heated debate over the summer and sometimes things just sort of carry over...

[4and12to12and4]

Holy Shnickeys, I also just read this whole thread. Didn't realize this was going on. I stopped going to a certain forum because this shit happened constantly, and when I started coming here I loved the great sense of humor everyone had, and how nobody took themselves seriously. How about getting back to that? Merry Christmas you guys!! Hey, we're going to the playoffs, and we don't even have to play in the first week!! Isn't that awesome????!!!!

Anyways, I love you guys, and you all love each other, so quit pretending you're mad at each other, you know how you REALLY feel.

[4and12to12and4]

I think some here are just mad because they have to see their family this week!!

Take it out on your in-laws, not you're Packer family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bretsky]

Just read this whole thread.

Damn. Tank must have done a good job with his Anti-Polar Bear stuff. Thompson proponents seem to be saying that you are not a Packer fan if you criticize TT.

I think TT has done a nice job, but he isn't by any mean flawless.

No he is not; everybody makes mistakes and when they hit they get credit and if they miss they get blame

[SkinBasket]

Just read this whole thread.

Damn. Tank must have done a good job with his Anti-Polar Bear stuff. Thompson proponents seem to be saying that you are not a Packer fan if you criticize TT.

I think TT has done a nice job, but he isn't by any mean flawless.

What are you talking about? This thread isn't about TT. This thread is about Woody. TT just happens to be a convenient backdrop for him right now.

[Tarlam!]

Damn. Tank must have done a good job with his Anti-Polar Bear stuff. Thompson proponents seem to be saying that you are not a Packer fan if you criticize TT.

I think TT has done a nice job, but he isn't by any mean flawless.

You mention Tank a lot in your posts.

[Scott Campbell]

Coldplay sucks.

[Zool]

Its nice to get daddy's cash sometimes though, and pretend you're going to pay it back.

[Scott Campbell]

So. . what's that I see? Ohhh Noooo ! NOT the Packerrat mafia now ?

Hey Woody - heard the one about the Maritimes Godfather?


He made them an offer they couldn't understand.

[Joemailman]

Just read this whole thread.

Damn. Tank must have done a good job with his Anti-Polar Bear stuff. Thompson proponents seem to be saying that you are not a Packer fan if you criticize TT.

I think TT has done a nice job, but he isn't by any mean flawless.

What are you talking about? This thread isn't about TT. This thread is about Woody. TT just happens to be a convenient backdrop for him right now.

Actually, I think Woody is TT. He just stirs things up to see how much support he has in Forumland.

[woodbuck27]

CVCan't you simply admit that Ted Thompson blew on that weak attempt to acquire Randy Moss.

It's baqck to that Poker game analogy mj.

Sometimes a decent poker player has to go all in when the value is in the hand and the pot will reward.

Ted Thompson wasn't in the game on that hand mj. A goo0d GM can,t be3 that and half heartedly go about his business.

Define "all in." If you wanna convince me TT made a mistake, you're gonna have to convince me of what mistake he made, not make poker analogies. I don't want "shoulda got him," You think he made a mistake, I want you to tell me EXACTLY what he did wrong. So define it for me.

Two teams were actively bidding on Moss, two, the Pats, and the Pack. I guess along with the Packers there were 30 other teams out their that had GMs that blew it with Randy Moss. Even considering bringing Randy Moss in to Green Bay was a huge step, Randy Moss isn't the most liked player that has ever graced Lambeau Field, and image the media outcry if Randy Moss proved to be a jack off in Green Bay? Thompson would have been hanged in effigy.

But you don't want to see that side, do you Woody? You simply want to be an attention whore by keeping up the same argument over and over again. Like I said if you're so much of a fucking idiot that you can't see past Randy fucking Moss, then you better question what kind of fucking Packer fan you are.

Hey Nutz.

Don't lay your heavy handed weak ass BS on me. Who in hell do you think you are? Were you into the sauce when you made that post. Your certainly not goin to challenge me successfully Nutz with your onipotence that is tired.

I'll take my position with OUR GM just as I see it Nutz.

You are over the top too prejudiced on the likes of Randy Moss and Terrell Owens to possible question whether or not your a bigot and a Redneck? Don't ever imagine that your tactics and I have to take stock of my Packer fanism will ever shake with me.

I'm as solid a Packer fan as you are mister, and just as qualified to use whatever I see as proof that Ted Thompson isn't the best slice of cheese so far in his tenure as our GM.

Maybe we should take a really close lookat all those terrific draft picks.ealy examine him for what is deemed noteable about his skills as a GM.

What a joke that will make of the delusion Ted Thompson and Master of the Draft that exists and deludes so many on this forum except those of us that have no fear to express the facts.

Nutz.You have never intimadated me Man. Get that and straighten up.

PACKERS FOREVER!

Take your emoticons and shove them, I look to intimidate nobody on a fucking fan forum you delusional retard. Don't tell me what to look like and don't question if I am redneck or a bigot because I see reason why Ted Thompson didn't trade or sign a black player, that is as ridiculous as all the other Bull shit you attempt.

Seriously you are a fucking joke around here, nobody takes you seriously anymore because you turn every conversation into a hate filled speech about Ted Thompson, not unlike Tank, sad is you, actually thinking you make sense.

What makes sense to me is 12-3, bottom line look at the numbers, I guess you let other things cloud your vision as you attempt to look intelligent by side stepping the obvious turn around of this franchise.

I never tried to convince you, I just wanted to make sure nobody else around he bought into your heretical nonsense. Seems the support I have gotten previously in this thread for my responses have been nothing but positive, not that I need anyone to tell me, but I don't see anyone jumping to your side of things, maybe you should find a smarter Packer Forum, I believe Tank is still running around JSO, you could hook up with him, and each of you could post everyday this misgivings of Ted Thompson.

I suppose you got what you wanted, another loss to prove your point that Ted Thomson is the joke you believe he is to be. Thanks for rooting against the Pack for your own selfish reasons.

Yup Nutz your ' the pseudo heavy' around here and I'm supposed to quake when your intimidation sets the pace in any argument that you find disfavour with? I'm not biting on that Nutz.

I'm too cool for you young man.

Nutz.

I'm a solid Packer fan and been that long before you even attempted to wipe your ass. To imply that I should leave this Packer home for another forum demonstrates some lack of maturity on your behalf Nutz and an obvious inability to cope with what I stand for.

Get a grip Nutz. Your folding up with your prejudices.

Your words are getting in the way of your reputation as a Packer fan here that is held in some esteem and deserves respect. Go all the way with that Nutz.

Just a suggestion young fella.

The heavy handedness and overt arrogance you demonstrate in your prejudices cast a cloud over you man. I have every right to be a Ted Thompson critic and It will not stop till I see this man get it a lot better than he's done to date.

Any argument that 12-3 raises the ''It's all alright with TT FLAG '' is nonsence in my view. He hasn,t demonstratesd to me the ability to get us in a position to go to the Super Bowl with some agressiveness that suits my view of what we deserve as Packer fans. What the Vet players on our team deserve.

I have been consistant and supported with just the fact in my analysis and criticisms of TT Nutz.

He's too idle. He's too non-committal in what his objectives (long and short term) are. He hasn,t the natural gift of knowing when to make a deal that obviously strengthens our team.

I canTt help but be amazed that more here don't openly support my side. I do appreciate that the world spins on more than my views and observations and hopes for change.It's just so obvious to anyone who has an open mind that he totally blew the Randy Moss venture as he is as usual only half in Nutz.

Oh. . . by the way Nutz.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Am46JjwEVEamUYFPxhqGzjWG2bYF?slug=cr-excitingfinales122707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

'' Randy Moss, gone from dastardly devil to league darling, is two scoring catches shy of breaking Jerry Rice's single-season touchdown reception record.''

Pretty nice season Eh? Nutz.

I'm a NFL fan Nutz. Not just a long time dedicated as you packer fan.I love the Packers Nutz. Totally. Being an NFL fan as well assists me in being objective and open minded. I watch carefully the way other GM's and Coach's in the NFL operate.

I have to to be able to compete for the pickEm Championship.

The NFL is a major hobby of mine Nutz.

There are other members of this Forum that also deserve the same credit.

Maybe you might consider demonstrating the same talent of understanding the NFL as a whole Nutz and come on with us in the Pro PickEm?

I'd enjoy competing with you.

Would it be fair to you to imply that you we'er discusted. You may have to get used to only that man.

[Deputy Nutz]

I made my points to you Woody, and I told you and everyone else that I was finished discussing this issue with you because frankly, I can't beat stupid, now discuss whatever else you would like with me and I will be more than pleasant, but I am done discussing this issue with you because the only other way of dealing with the blind is to make fun of them and ridicule them. Now leave it alone before you alienate yourself anymore.

[The Shadow]

We win the NFC North title.
We are headed for the playoffs.
Thompson has been "too idle"??????????????????????????????????

[Deputy Nutz]

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[woodbuck27]

Yes he can, but he cannot call me stupid for having a differing opinion. What you just said is exactly the point I want him to understand. He has no idea what happened any more than anyone else. Criticize if he wants, but don't call those who disagree on the same information ignorant because if he does, I for one will want to be enlightened.

....and nobody has called him stupid for his views?? It has gone both ways for months and months and months.....maybe time to let it go. Why continue this battle? We are all Packer fans obviously....some people have different opinions.......and that's ok....even in real life....really!!

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Just for the record, while you're clapping and applauding that somebody has called Woody stupid in the past, I'd like to point out that it wasn't me--even though our friend on quite a number of occasions including in this thread has suggested that I personally lack intelligence because I questioned his take on the facts. I haven't called him stupid, nor do I call anyone else around here names and I don't feel I should be criticized for defending myself against his attacks on my intelligence. I'm with Nutz. I'm done with this crap. And for the record, he still hasn't answered my question. The one that in no way ever questioned his intelligence or suggested that he wise up to anything I tell him to believe.

mj.

Just read this post and I must respond to it.

You've got that right. I'm a long ways fr. being stupid. I rely a lot on my intelligence to help me achieve my needs. I also rely on a good personality and a sense of fairness and being Christian really help.

I'm also very patient.

I didn't think I posted or implied that anyone here is stupid or not intelligent. Stubborness and a poor sense of pride is something many here myself included are sometimes to often guilty of. I believe I'm fair.

I know I'm a gentleman in my style of posting. I admit that there are certain tensions bet. me and certain posters that I sometimes allow to get under my skin. That's there primary game and gain only if I allow them to smack down on me.

I'm irish and I will generally fight back. I have all my life. The ego is something to be constantly aware of. Mine never false. I'm in your face and will generally back myself up.

To reposition the argument and to clarify why it even began again.

There are some here that really imagine that a 12-3 record vindicates TT fully.

They laugh in the face of the TT critics (I'm certainly one) and challenge us by implying that we've disappeared in those stances against TT.

We all here are trying to enjoy 12-3. That's not good enough for some that want to put down the likes of me or other's (and our former stances and ciriticisms of TT) by implying we've disappeared. NUTS!!!!!

I personally am just trying to do precisely that. Enjoy 12-3.

These members draw the argument out again as they call us out. I'll generally stand by who I am. It's called integrity. If I lose that I lose it all.

Stupid to support TT? NO. In fact as our GM I have to support him as long as he's in that important position. He's vital for our future success as Packer fans hopingSuper Bowl.

I believe it's odd that there are some here that are still not more on my side in respect to TT and ''NO MOSS''. I realize the intimidation factor that posters like Nutz bring to the table and that many are affected by his demeanour. Hardy harrrr harrrr !! That's just clear BS with me. I've dealt with his kind all my life. The heavy. Size em up. Drop em.

He's always pissing in the wind with me. Nutz ''the heavy '. Haha.
woodbuck27 the consistent Ted Thompson critic. I'm so bad.

mj YOU arn't stupid. If you feel I even implied that that's not good? Your contribution here is evident. You are on the inside though mj in my observation.

Back to the argument:

The fact that TT was in the bidding for Moss demonstrated clearly that he was at least wanting to demonstrate to Packer fans that he could actually see the benefit of such a talent to help Favre and assist our offense.

As you re-call out 'O' was looking a little taddered before this last draft. A lot of us.You included mj we're posting support for Randy moss in Green bay this season.

Now on that mj you can't go half in. You we're either there on not there. You wanted Randy Moss mj.

Now that we are learning would not complywith say Nutz,s prejudices against the lokes of Randy Moss and T. Owens (or arguably the two finest WR's in the NFL).

I'm really simple. I want to win a Super Bowl again with Favre as our QB. The time was now fror that. Clearly that is why I am so annoid at TT.

I can't prove it but it has certainly appeare3d to me that TT isn't all in with Favre. That TT and Favre are on different plots for Packer success. Favre wanted Randy Moss , ' BIG TIME '. The price was right and we had lots of Cap space to try Moss on for a season in what was obviously not a giant leap as we had little that was obvious going for us.