OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Bossman641]

Favre was greatly admired and loved here, but it is true there were whispers - nay, open talk - of his inability to reign himself in at crucial times. After the Giants game there was much gnashing of teeth over that last interception.

And there was lively discussion on this very board - a couple years before Favre "retired" - about Favre's seeming inability to make better decisions with age. Many fans felt, in the mid nineties, that as the kid got older and wiser he'd be greater and greater cuz he'd learn to reign it in at the right times, and thus had the potential to become the best ever.

Alas, it was not to be. Fave is what he is and he stayed that way. His gunslinger mentality won some games and gasps of admiration, and no one doubts that, but as his career wore on the risky dumb passes became, for me, more difficult to accept.

Well said

[HarveyWallbangers]

Chilly is saying that Hutch and Herrera we're especially limited last year due to their injuries and expects much greater things out of them this time.

And didn't I tell everybody that Hutch's play wasn't up to par last year? I think still made the Pro Bowl. Tells you more about the Pro Bowl than anything. How old is Hutchinson?

[retailguy]

Chilly is saying that Hutch and Herrera we're especially limited last year due to their injuries and expects much greater things out of them this time.

And didn't I tell everybody that Hutch's play wasn't up to par last year? I think still made the Pro Bowl. Tells you more about the Pro Bowl than anything. How old is Hutchinson?

49? :P

[hoosier]

Hutchinson is 32, which with most OL means being on the downward slope of his career but not necessarily done. I don't know what his injury deal was last year but it wouldn't be too surprising if his best years were behind him in any case.

[Joemailman]

Hutch will turn 33 in November, which makes him about the same age as Tauscher, and a year younger than Clifton. Thing is, some of the hits Favre took against New Orleans shows he has lost some of his ability to make guys miss. He needs a good OL in front of him now.

[RashanGary]

Hutch will turn 33 in November, which makes him about the same age as Tauscher, and a year younger than Clifton. Thing is, some of the hits Favre took against New Orleans shows he has lost some of his ability to make guys miss. He needs a good OL in front of him now.

Perspective


Ain't it a bitch

[packerbacker1234]

Hutch will turn 33 in November, which makes him about the same age as Tauscher, and a year younger than Clifton. Thing is, some of the hits Favre took against New Orleans shows he has lost some of his ability to make guys miss. He needs a good OL in front of him now.

I say that's yes and no on the needing guys in front of him for an OL. Favre got hammered in that game due to very poor OL protection, but he seemed to always do enough to get the time he needed to get the pass off. Favre has always been a guy that seems to take a lot of hits every year. Nothing like that NO game, but if you watched any of the rest of the games he played he showed the same sort of movement and escapability we were accustumed too when he was in GB. The same sort of internal clock and ability to really feel out the rush.

It honestly amazes me how well Favre always seems to really feel the pressure from the outside and behind him, all while looking for the right receiver.

Every QB needs a solid pass blocking OL, so in that regards of course he needs his OL to play better. Rodgers needs it too. And heck, give Peyton Manning a below average OL and lets see what he can really do. It seems to me the few times people do get pressure on Manning, he falls under it. It was always one of the big reason NE had his number for so long was because they seemed like the only team who could pressure him.

Either case, the vikings if #4 comes back I think are still pretty dangerous. I'm not sure if they are as good as last year, but who knows? We should be better, the saints should be worse, etc etc. Should be a great battle for the NFC North crown.

[Scott Campbell]

I'll still give Bert the edge in pocket presence. That's never been an issue for him. Though plenty of times we ended up wishing he had just been sacked.


Rodgers got better as the year wore on, but it's an area where he leaves room for significant improvement.

[pbmax]

I'll still give Bert the edge in pocket presence. That's never been an issue for him.

Not since 1995 or so. Before that he ran around like a chicken with his head cut off at times. But it did eventually become one of his strengths.

[Deputy Nutz]

Like anyone who reads these boards doesnt know how Sc or Harrell feel

Euphoric.

Was that a picture of Favre against Green Bay last year?



didn't think so. 2-0 against Green Bay, suck on that.

[Scott Campbell]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................



































Hear that sound in space above? I didn't think so.


That's the sound of a traitor hiding in his cave for months after Favre's choke.







.....suck on that little viking boy.

[Brando19]

Like anyone who reads these boards doesnt know how Sc or Harrell feel

Euphoric.

Was that a picture of Favre against Green Bay last year?



didn't think so. 2-0 against Green Bay, suck on that.

No...that's a picture of Favre after every big game since 1997. You know...when the ball's in his hands and there's a couple seconds to go in the game...this pic is just the aftermath. You can photoshop a different jersey if you'd like...it's an ongoing process.

[Scott Campbell]

Do NOT watch this if you're a Bert fan. For the rest of us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJ_K4Mlt4w

[Iron Mike]

Do NOT watch this if you're a Bert fan. For the rest of us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJ_K4Mlt4w

That's me with the 34 thumbs up.....

[packerbacker1234]

On a tracy porter related note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XzXTYjfbDk&feature=related

Way to win the SB manning.

Oh, and FOR HOW GOOD MANNING IS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OSmZc8ZXc&feature=fvw

naturally no one can say that favre isn't a choker... so I don't agree with this guy there, but lets be fair. If you're going to bash favre as a choker, peyton Manning has a big history of doing the same as well in the playoffs. He got over the hump one time, and it was against sexy rexy... and he didn't even play that well.

I know this isn't a peyton discussion, but to be fair to favre - Manning has the same issue too in the big games.