OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[woodbuck27]

I didn't find a video of this exchange but enough media outlets outside of WI reported it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/22/favre-to-peppers-beat-the-packers/

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/favre-tells-peppers-beat-packers/#

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/12/22/favr...t-the-packers/

Thank You.

[woodbuck27]

I know you like a good debate Patler, but you're not going to find it here.

Ignoring you Zool.

[woodbuck27]

...or, Favre just got old and isn't very good anymore. It isn't always someone else's fault.

"or, Favre just got old and isn't very good anymore." Patler

That's a mere opinion. Yes a player can dramatically decline in a single season once he hits a certain advanced age.

Yet you chose to ignore the facts I presented. His OL was remarkably inferior in terms of performance fr. 2009 last season.

Favre lost a serious weapon at WR in Sydney Rice and other WR's didn't step up. He also lost his #1 TE. early in last season and a go to guy. Bernard Berrian never played well. The replacement for Chester Taylor never replaced Taylors production. Favre was working with an inferior offense last season than he had in 2009.

If I am correct and you are the man with the Stat's. I deserve more than some allusion to it was all an age factor or the ridiculous inference that I am blaming anyone else for Favre's poor season last.

Ed.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, you're making conversation but not making sense. Don't confuse the two.

Favre's comments to Peppers should be discarded because Peppers is trying to throw him under the bus. His chosen comments to the media should be taken as fact with no questioning of sincerity. Haha. Go rub Favre's back and suck his toes. That's about all you're good for when it relates to Brett Favre.

I will respond to you JH:

I made a clear point that gamesmanship should not be held against a Pro athlete if that is in terms of mere words. Favre might have been just being Brett Favre. Saying something that was best left unsaid. Peppers should have accounted for Favre's personality and cut him a fricken' break. Not run to the damn media with it. Now I need to try to determine what this terrible thing Favre did according to Pappers and some here actually is.

Give me some time. I need to read through the stuff Pugger posted. Please. As long as it has little to do with phone calls, after hours invites, sexy text messages and and perversions of the anatomy. I guess it cannot be so bad I couldn't handle it. (-:

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In summary:

I can't quite hate on Ted the way I used to.
I can't quite love on Bert the way I used to.
If you forget everything I've been saying the last 5 years - I was right all along.


That's what I'm reading anyway.

Oh come on Woodbuck! Who's gonna read this whole post?

No one... unless you're out of Ambien and need to get to sleep.... thank God for Cliffs Notes... Thanks Howard and Scott!

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Ignoring you Zool.

Obviously

[woodbuck27]

I predicted that the 2007 Patriots would win the Super Bowl. I had plenty of animosity for their cheating asses, but I predicted that they would win because they were a strong team. They were most people's pick, but many people still hated them for Spygate or whatever other reason. Most Jets fans would have picked them, despite intense animosity for them.

The Packers looked like a team of destiny and were the most common pick for Super Bowl champs at the time. when your infallible hero said that, Woodbuck. It doesn't mean he had no animosity. It just means he picked them as most likely to win because they were the most likely to win at that point. It means nothing with regard to animosity or lack thereof.

As far as other comments he made publicly about not being mad at the Packers, those could be seen as self serving, as they make him seem like less of a selfish, childish dickhead, which he ended up being perceived as by many, many people after how he handled that whole situation- not just by Packer fans either. Poll results this year called him "the most hated player in the NFL" over convicted dog killer Michael Vick and accused rapist Ben Roethlisberger recently. People are sick of his shit all over the country. The Packers offered him to stay retired. The Jets dumped him. The Vikings don't want him back, by all indications, despite their desperation for a QB. Women claim that he tried to sexually harass them, and call him a "creepy douche".

Coming off as not having animosity towards the Packers would be beneficial to Faver. He has has failed to do so more often than not for years now.

You did great in the first two paragraphs:

I predicted that the 2007 Patriots would win the Super Bowl. I had plenty of animosity for their cheating asses, but I predicted that they would win because they were a strong team. They were most people's pick, but many people still hated them for Spygate or whatever other reason. Most Jets fans would have picked them, despite intense animosity for them.

The Packers looked like a team of destiny and were the most common pick for Super Bowl champs at the time. when your infallible hero said that, Woodbuck. It doesn't mean he had no animosity. It just means he picked them as most likely to win because they were the most likely to win at that point. It means nothing with regard to animosity or lack thereof. get louder at lambeau

WOW. Impressive hard hitting post to that point and I can even buy it. Glad I'm not debating with you with the weapons I felt were at my disposal here. Manners and decency and an overall deportment of decency and let's really examine this without angst.

I would first have to ask for ' the same use of language rights ' and the forum could see which of us can outcurse the other. Toss the most shit at the other. Why does Brett Favre make you so angry?

No PLEASE. Do not respond to that. Just somehow examine it within yourself. Just a suggestion. Good luck with that.

I'm beginning to believe this question cannot be solved by mere members here. It might be better understood by some team of assigned psychologists that could examine the inherant psyche of the Packer forum community in terms of why in the name of all that's sane can anyone get so bloody well pissed off about a Pro atlelete that only gave his his best while wearing Packer colors.

GO PACKERS !

[Iron Mike]

"or, Favre just got old and isn't very good anymore." Patler

That's a mere opinion. Yes a player can dramatically decline in a single season once he hits a certain advanced age.

Yet you chose to ignore the facts I presented. His OL was remarkably inferior in terms of performance fr. 2009 last season.

Favre lost a serious weapon at WR in Sydney Rice and other WR's didn't step up. He also lost his #1 TE. early in last season and a go to guy. Bernard Berrian never played well. The replacement for Chester Taylor never replaced Taylors production. Favre was working with an inferior offense last season than he had in 2009.

I guess about the only thing you could do in this case is to compare apples to apples.......different QBs in the same offense.

To whit:

Joe Webb in 5 games, 2010.................Comp/54 Att/89 % Comp/60.7 Yds/477 Avg/5.4 TD/0 Int/3 Sck/8 SckY/48 Rate/60.9

Brett Favre last 4 games, 2010............Comp/37 Att/69 % Comp/53.6 Yds/443 Avg/6.4 TD/1 Int/3 Sck/4 SckY/23 Rate/60.2

IOW, operating behind the same OL, with the same skill players, Brett Favre is ALMOST as good as Joe Webb. Awesome possum.

[MJZiggy]

"or, Favre just got old and isn't very good anymore." Patler

That's a mere opinion. Yes a player can dramatically decline in a single season once he hits a certain advanced age.

Yet you chose to ignore the facts I presented. His OL was remarkably inferior in terms of performance fr. 2009 last season.

Favre lost a serious weapon at WR in Sydney Rice and other WR's didn't step up. He also lost his #1 TE. early in last season and a go to guy. Bernard Berrian never played well. The replacement for Chester Taylor never replaced Taylors production. Favre was working with an inferior offense last season than he had in 2009.

If I am correct and you are the man with the Stat's. I deserve more than some allusion to it was all an age factor or the ridiculous inference that I am blaming anyone else for Favre's poor season last.

Ed.

WOODBUCK!!!!Brett Favre is 41 years old and has ankle spurs that require surgery--like often. Look up how many times he's made news in the offseason for having surgery to remove bone spurs. Face it, people age. Did his line let him down or did he let the line down? Brett Favre is not perfect. He is fallible. There's a reason he's retired, what is it, seven years running? If you're willing to believe everything he says to the media as fact, then he was done when he left the Packers. Not so much. You have to take off the Favre filters and really look. Play a game with yourself. Watch or read his interviews and figure out what he's saying that's true and what's not. You can do it. But wake up, dude. It's not the line, it's not the girl, it's not anyone else. It's Favre. He's not the 28-year-old kid anymore and he is responsible for his own play and his own behavior.

[woodbuck27]

Strong post, get-louder-at-lambeau

Really? (-:

[woodbuck27]

Okay, that link was just a link to some far-fetched speculation, right? Right?

Let's hope Brent doesn't read this stuff. It might get him thinking.

I want to read those LINKS Fritz. Then I'll comment.

GO PACKERS!

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WOODBUCK!!!!Brett Favre is 41 years old and has ankle spurs that require surgery--like often. Look up how many times he's made news in the offseason for having surgery to remove bone spurs. Face it, people age. Did his line let him down or did he let the line down? Brett Favre is not perfect. He is fallible. There's a reason he's retired, what is it, seven years running? If you're willing to believe everything he says to the media as fact, then he was done when he left the Packers. Not so much. You have to take off the Favre filters and really look. Play a game with yourself. Watch or read his interviews and figure out what he's saying that's true and what's not. You can do it. But wake up, dude. It's not the line, it's not the girl, it's not anyone else. It's Favre. He's not the 28-year-old kid anymore and he is responsible for his own play and his own behavior.

Well said Sistah... I particularly like the "Favre Filter" phraseology.. that's going into my vernacular....

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Really? (-:

Really

[MJZiggy]

Well said Sistah... I particularly like the "Favre Filter" phraseology.. that's going into my vernacular....

Careful with that. I hear that filter ain't so big...

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I want to read those LINKS Fritz. Then I'll comment.

GO PACKERS!

We await with baited breath... Howard... got the Cliffs Notes handy?