OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Pugger]

I don't think he ever actually contemplated retirement - he only used the retirement card to get out of Green Bay and NY so he could get to where he wanted to go all along = MN.

Once he discovered there was no longer a place for him on the team and ARod became the guy, yes.

Before that, no.

Your timeline is a bit off there chief. Pretty sure BF was slated to be the opening day starter in 2008 when he retired. If you have something to contradict that please speak up and show me I'm wrong.

My remarks were regarding the 'he wanted to go to MN all along' part.

Then why would a guy who was slated to be our starter in 2008 and had just weeks before his teary "retirement" PC quarterbacked the Packers to OT in the conference championship game decide to 'retire' unless he wanted OUT of Green Bay?

[Freak Out]

Lord Favre! DAYUM!

[Bossman641]

Different players do have different rules - this isn't knew. the team itself all knew brett was going to get special treatment this off season. It's really no big secret.

If Peyton manning wanted to miss time right now for really "no other reason then not wanting to practice" - you think the colts would punish him? I am not saying AP isn't "special" enough to warrant SOME missed time, but skipping mandatory camps when you have a MAJOR problem that is holding you back from being one of the best ever, and is costing your team games, is just not acceptable.

Brett Favre is who he is. Him being at camp is not really going to make him any better of a player than he already is. He proved that last season.

Adrian is different, They want to change the way he holds the ball, and thats hard to do if your not there. I am sure Jared Allen could miss time too if he wanted.

It's the NFL - everyone has different rules. It doesn't give anyone a true excuse. Favre was already excused from missing the practices before they ever came about - AP was not. favre also, in general, has given fair warning he wouldn't be there (simply by not stating if he is coming back or not) AP gave what, 2 days? Something like that.

The bolded part reminds me of a certain quarterback

[mngolf19]

6th round pick Joe Webb, drafted as a WR spent 2 days in rookie camp and showed enough as a QB to unseat Rosenfels.

Wow. I didn't think Rosenfels was quite this bad, even though I've never seen a QB (other than Favre) give away a game quite like he did to Indy a couple of years back...

Well WR wasn't his true position in college. He was Conf USA Offensive POY as QB at UAB last year. He was just looked at by the NFL as a great "athlete" so at the combine he came in as a WR and a couple other teams were ready to draft him as one as well. He just got a chance to throw a few in rookie camp and......

In the recent mini camp he took all of Rosenfels snaps as #2 which because of Favre coming back are vital to a #2 now. By middle of training camp if Favre back and no injuries, Rosenfels will be traded or released.

[packerbacker1234]

Don't you think Brett is manipulating the team though, and some of the other players like AP might resent it? He can still play, and I understand he's getting older and needs to save himself for the regular season, but why can't he give a straight answer and just say "I'm going to play", and come to camp to throw a few passes around? He's throwing them to the high schoolers: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...in-mississippi
Think of the other players who have to come in and bust their asses and he can waltz in at the last minute and be a starter, year after year. I think it's selfish of him. I'm just glad the Packers don't have to deal with that, ARod will be here working like the rest of the guys.

yes and no. There are some camps that believe favre has already privately committed to the vikings in coming back, and they are just withholding it publicly because they feel it may be harder to excuse him missing time if he was back for certain. Or something like that.

Favre had the ankle surgery required to play, not required to sit on a tractor back home. He has been rehabbing and reportedly staying in "football" shape, and is now working out his arm throwing to HS wr's, something he has done MANY times before.

All in all, everything points to him coming back. He said he wants to beat the saints bad week one. He said if he physically was too hurt to play he would of already retired.

Fact remains, he knows he is coming back, and something tells me the vikings front office knew it too. I think they knew it as far back as the draft, which explains why they didn't grab a QB at all.

So is he minpulating the team, or is the front office? Naturally, they don't want the players to know because, well, the more people that know... the better chance of it getting leaked and all this media attention blah blah, constant questions on why #4 is excused when he IS going to play etc.

I mean, it's obvious why he is excused even if he is coming back - He is still rehabbing the ankle needs to rest his body for the regular season. Last year was a big indicator that in his old age, it truly is best if he saves himself for the season because there was very minimal decline in his play down the stretch, unlike prior years, and he had the most time off in the offseason he has ever had.

I think this is just a case of we, as fans, not knowing the full situation.

Anywyas, would I be okay if this was happening in GB? I think I would. This is a vastly better situation then we had in 2007.

[esoxx]

"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."

See, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.

Bert's back to throwing at the high school. That'll have to be good enough for the Vikings until he's good and ready to head north.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vi.../97612834.html

Anyone else hear he's also running for class president?

Yes, you can have it all.

[Gunakor]

So is he minpulating the team, or is the front office?

Yes.

[woodbuck27]

imagine if T.T. let Favre come back in 2008... There is no chance in hell Aaron Rodgers would be waiting another year (past 2010)... The packers would be truley screwed because of the flip flopping he has been doing since 2005/2006... I'm glad my most hated draft pick (at the time) turned out to be one of the best choices a packers G.M. has made in the past decade.

Yup! Its worked out very well for Aaron Rodgers and Farve and their teams.

Favre will be back this season after such a fine season last. The drama will build.

Its very

[woodbuck27]

"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."

See, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.

Bert's back to throwing at the high school. That'll have to be good enough for the Vikings until he's good and ready to head north.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vi.../97612834.html

" His (Brett Favre) arm is great like always," Barr told the Star Tribune.

Imagine that now!

[retailguy]

"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."

See, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.

Bert's back to throwing at the high school. That'll have to be good enough for the Vikings until he's good and ready to head north.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vi.../97612834.html

" His (Brett Favre) arm is great like always," Barr told the Star Tribune.

Imagine that now!

Welcome back Woodbuck! :P

[woodbuck27]

"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."

See, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.

Bert's back to throwing at the high school. That'll have to be good enough for the Vikings until he's good and ready to head north.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vi.../97612834.html

" His (Brett Favre) arm is great like always," Barr told the Star Tribune.

Imagine that now!

Welcome back Woodbuck! :P

Thanks man I just droped in for a cool drink of spring water.

This is ... the place... for Packer related and NFL news overall retailguy.

retailguy. I purchased a wonderful puter with all the bells and whistles last May after an extended trip - vacation to the Maritime Provinces (Home)... and for some reason still havn't taken it on-line. It just looks nice at my place.

I'm at a Buds in Saint John retailguy, New Brunswick... and I introduced him to the Packers. Shoot ! The first time he saw me this trip I'm wearing my summer Packer hat. The TC's are close at hand so I'm doing a little catching up and... if I'm going to knock you retailguy off that top rung in Pro Pickem.... I need to seee whats going on around the league. Just joking of course. I had the pleasure of . . .MY YEAR. It's pretty cool ehh............. lots goes into a win in Pro Pickem and its a testimony to 'the cream always rises to the top'... theory.

There is a certain female member here I expect to win this season....Ehh... hint: like me and some others who will admit it. She continues to admire Brett Favre and his exploits. He is just....remarkable.

After I won the Championship the first year I changed my name to Hank and then Bert Bosch for reasons that may be obvious to people here like you retailguy .... or that know ... all the history of PackerRats. Some things unfortunately will never change in this small society. I am Canadian and that will always be made fun of. SCREW em.

The main thing ... PackerRats still exists ... for the better of the whole.
The Rednecks can go screw themselves. It*s taken me three years to come right out and say that retailguy. It feels OK.

[retailguy]

I'm going to "repeat" Woody. Patriot style domination is just beginning... :P After winning both the Packers Fantasy league and the Pro-Pickum, I'd say I had a pretty good year.

But, if it weren't for the final week stumble of our favorite female pro picker, I might not have caught her, but I'd have still beaten you....

[retailguy]

I'm going to "repeat" Woody. Patriot style domination is just beginning... :P After winning both the Packers Fantasy league and the Pro-Pickum, I'd say I had a pretty good year.

But, if it weren't for the final week stumble of our favorite female pro picker, I might not have caught her, but I'd have still beaten you....

[Bossman641]

"I don't think Adrian's batting around retirement in his mind, I don't believe," Childress said, adding: "Is everything equal? Obviously it's not. That's just the way it is. That's matter of fact. I think everybody understands that part of the equation."

See, this is where Brad is an idiot. Not everyone understands that. Explain again to a 22 year old millionaire why the QB he admires gets a pass, but he doesn't. But hey, thats just the way it is....nothing to see here.

Bert's back to throwing at the high school. That'll have to be good enough for the Vikings until he's good and ready to head north.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vi.../97612834.html

" His (Brett Favre) arm is great like always," Barr told the Star Tribune.

Imagine that now!

Welcome back Woodbuck! :P

Thanks man I just droped in for a cool drink of spring water.

This is ... the place... for Packer related and NFL news overall retailguy.

retailguy. I purchased a wonderful puter with all the bells and whistles last May after an extended trip - vacation to the Maritime Provinces (Home)... and for some reason still havn*t taken it on-line. It just looks nice at my place.

I*m at a Buds in Saint John retailguy, New Brunswick and I introduced him to the Packers. Shhot ! The first time he saw me this trip I*m wearing my summer packer hat. The TC*s are close at hand so I*m doing a little catching up and... if I*m going to knock you retailguy off that top rung in Pro Pickem.... I need to seee whats going on around the league. Just joking of course. I had the pleasure of . . .MY YEAR. It*s pretty cool ehh............. lots goes into a win in Pro pickem and its a testimony to *the cream always rises to the top* theory.

There is a certain female member here I expect to win this season....Ehh... hint: like me and some others who will admit it. She continues to admire Brett Favre and his exploits. He is just....remarkable.

After I won the Championship the first year I changed my name to Hank and then Bert Bosch for reasons that may be obvious to people here like you retailguy .... or that know * all the history of PackerRats *. Some things unfortunately will never change in this small society. I am Canadian and that will always be made fun of. SCREW em.

The main thing ... PackerRats still exists ... for the better of the whole.
The Rednecks can go screw themselves. It*s taken me three years to come right out and say that retailguy. It feels OK.

It*s too hiliarious really. They rub. You pick up whats on the ground and rub it back or toss it in the closest garbage can. It*s the sickness that amazes me...... the arrogance..... coupled with they can give it but No... Noo ... Noooo they won*t take it. Then the most amazing thing is they have *absolutely no shame*.



* = french language keyboard retailguy. It jiggers with my punctuation.

Translation anyone?

Welcome back WB!

[swede]

Welcome back, eh?