OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Iron Mike]

Zool - love the avatar! Randy, there's a shit storm a brewin' in the Favre thread!!!

Hey, who gave Zool that avatar, green_bowl_packer? The guy in the chair!!!

[ThunderDan]

Submitted without comment:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...a-drama-queen/

Bus Cook: "Brett talked to goddamned Ed Werder at ESPN, says he needs ankle surgery. Now why did he do that?" Cook asked. "I've got [Brad] Childress calling. I've got reporters calling all damn morning. Goddammit, why does he have to be such a goddamned drama queen? Play, don't play, goddamn, people are getting sick of it. I'm getting sick of it!

"Why does he have to talk to these people? What good does it do? Ed Werder at ESPN! What's he ever done for anybody other than say, 'Look, look, Mommy, I got this first, ain't I special?' You got problems with surgery, talk to your wife. Why talk to goddamned Ed Werder?"

I never thought Bus would come out looking like a good guy. I guess we can cross off the idea that Bus was always the one manipulating Favre's actions.

I'd agree except for the whole Jay Cutler thing. I think Gus was protecting Steve McNair's best interests when he got locked out of the facilities.

So Gus has been the agent of the last 2 big QB vs management pissing matches. I can't give him a pass even if he sounds reasonable on this one.

[packerbacker1234]

Well a few things about that saints game that can counter the "blueprint to beat brett favre"

The vikings, despite five, count it, 5 turnovers, still put up 28 points. If thats how you beat that offense, that is news to me. They turn it over 5 times and still drop 28 on you.

favre still throws for 300, and if it wasn't for the one ILLEGAL hit, favre's ankle wouldn't of gotten messed up - so who knows what happens then. On top of that, you would never guess that 3 of your main offensive weapons would have fumbles in key situations. Okay, maybe you can say if you hit brett a lot he throws 2 picks, but he still threw for 300 and put 28 on the board. So, it was hardly a "horrible" game.

Now, can he last the season taking that punishment? No. Do most teams have the weapons to cause that sort of punishment? No.

The latter is why he will last the season. He has a pretty solid front 5 in front of him, and they can run the ball really well. That blueprint works, sure (just keep coming after him), but it wasn;'t like it wasn't tried by other teams earlier. They just didn't have the right players to get by that line.

And even with that, it still took 3 other vikings fumbling the ball in, if those fumbles didn't happen, what would of been a laughable blow out.

I want the vikings to lose, but if I am putting money on it - #4 makes it the whole season. he hasn't missed a game in like, two decades. He knows how to take hits, and play through pain. He'll be just fine. Everyone acts like "the saints figured out how to beat brett, beat teh piss out of him" - isn't that how you beat ANY great qb? You pressure him and constantly hit him? You what what usually accompanies great QB's (outside of with AR)? Great offensive lines.

That's all true. A man can dream though can't he? Call it wishful thinking then on my part.

Never said it was a horrible game, said they got in his head. AP running for 122 yds and 4.9 a carry will tend to open things up for you, despite the fumbles. Of the 5 turn overs he had 2 picks and a botched hand off to AP on NO's 5 YDL with 30 seconds left in the 2nd qtr and on that last play needed maybe 5 yards for a game winning FG (after not noticing 12 in the huddle), hence the comments about flicking the ball while over the LOS, instead of running for it (or throwing it away, but come on who are we talking about here) though he hasn't had that in his game for a long, long, time.

He also had the bruised thigh which he posted pictures of after the game as an excuse. I don't want him hurt, crippled, or maimed, we know he can take punishment, but I'm sick of him and I hate the Vikings.

Vikings vs. Saints opening weekend!!! Straight off the tractor into the fire.

Well yeah he had the bruised thigh, and who knows what play caused that. Favre was getting crushed all day - it almost looked like our offensive line through the first 8 games. Still, I never wish for any player to get hurt unless he is the most elite of assholes, and fro all favre has done he isn't really an asshole, he's just a diva (which with how much he has had his cock sucked in 20 years, who can blame him?) who looks out for himself before everyone else, not unlike what most people do. And, in general, he is a good teammate. He always seems to support the team he is one and he never really throws players or whatever else under the bus for a loss. He may talka bout how x could of did y, but that doesn't change anything and it's not really anyone's fault. He could do better at taking blame all on his shoulders, but it is what it is.

Still waiting on Peyton Manning to give back his SB MVP. He played worse than favre did in the NFC CHampionship game and still won it. Stupid media.

Anyways, everyone here knows that yes, I do still enjoy brett favre the player and I am sure if you met him or know him well in real life, he is a pretty stand up guy. Nothing has really happened to suggest he is a bad person, he just got indicisive late his career and frustrated at being such an "old man" on "a young team" that naturally he blames TT for. We all knew in 2 to 4 seasons, the packers youth would pay off, but it wasn't indicitive of "winning a SB" when #4 was here. I get it could of and should of happened in 2007, but we did win a piss load of games we had no business winning that year because some how, some way, favre kept putting it together in all the right ways with the game on the line.

[Tony Oday]

http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=810622cb-4b83-45f4-a0be-b73b4cadc2a0

I agree

[Merlin]

Merlin, what I want to know is, why is the duck bill of that Jets hat in your avatar so damn long? Was that thing custom made?

The pic is at a bad angle, it's normal length. And yes, it was a gift my son had custom made for my birthday when Favre went to the Jets. I think he had Lids do it if I remember right.

[Merlin]

This place isn't about the Packers anymore, it's about a bunch of people who do nothing but feed off each other and spew hatred whenever they can. Just look at yourselves, it's pathetic. Look at how one moronic statement turns into another, then another, and another, it's never ending.

Thank you for reminding me why myself and many other good posters don't come here anymore - the hypocrisy.

Says the guy who switched to a Jets hat for his avatar.

Perhaps you should look at it again...There are 2 teams on it....

[Gunakor]

This place isn't about the Packers anymore, it's about a bunch of people who do nothing but feed off each other and spew hatred whenever they can. Just look at yourselves, it's pathetic. Look at how one moronic statement turns into another, then another, and another, it's never ending.

Thank you for reminding me why myself and many other good posters don't come here anymore - the hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy? This is packerrats.com. Favre ain't a Packer no more. I don't understand the hypocrisy.

What I find hypocritical is that you would complain about this place not being about the Packers anymore, yet display an avatar that isn't specifically about the Packers, all while pledging undying support for non-Packers. I am quite interested in hearing what the rest of us are doing that is more hypocritical than that.

[mraynrand]

This place isn't about the Packers anymore, it's about a bunch of people who do nothing but feed off each other and spew hatred whenever they can. Just look at yourselves, it's pathetic. Look at how one moronic statement turns into another, then another, and another, it's never ending.

Thank you for reminding me why myself and many other good posters don't come here anymore - the hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy? This is packerrats.com. Favre ain't a Packer no more. I don't understand the hypocrisy.

What I find hypocritical is that you would complain about this place not being about the Packers anymore, yet display an avatar that isn't specifically about the Packers, all while pledging undying support for non-Packers. I am quite interested in hearing what the rest of us are doing that is more hypocritical than that.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

[pbmax]

What year is it in this alternative universe?

[Pugger]

“I’ve learned a lot through the years. What I haven’t learned is what I’ll do and when I’ll do it.”

Tracy Porter seemed to figure out what he'd do and when he'd do it.

Pretty easy when the ball is pretty much handed to you. Favre might as well ahve reached out and handed it to an on coming defender on a handoff with that throw.

And this is what Favre does when you hammer him like NO did. Favre starts to force it in there and tries to "make something happen" and he goes back to his gunslinging ways.

[Freak Out]

“Brett talked to goddamned Ed Werder at ESPN, says he needs ankle surgery. Now why did he do that? I’ve got Childress calling. I’ve got reporters calling all damn morning. Goddammit, why does he have to be such a goddamned drama queen? Play, don’t play, goddamn, people are getting sick of it. I’m getting sick of it! Why does he have to talk to these people? What good does it do? Ed Werder at ESPN! What’s he ever done for anybody other than say, ‘Look, look, Mommy, I got this first, ain’t I special?’ You got problems with surgery, talk to your wife. Why talk to goddamned Ed Werder?”

DAYUM!

[RashanGary]

Bert and Bus have always had an amazing way of manipulating the general public. In this case, they overestimated the publics ability to put all of the pieces together.


Bus tells this journalist this line, ripping Ed Werder like he's some sort of A-hole for being, "first", when really it's the ultimate compliment. Bus gives Ed everything. Anyone skilled in communication knows people are more likely to buy into something they come up with. Instead of telling people what he wants them to believe, he tells them something else with an easily encoded message inside, and then people think they put it all together themselves and are much more willing to accept it. In this case they came up, on their own, with the idea that Werder is a great reporter. This guy is a lawyer, right? How very lawyer of him. And we're not even into Bert yet. Bus gets done saying this, then Bert comes in and also talks to the Journalist. Oh, and didn't bus just get done saying, "why talk" and now he has this whole talk-fest set up? ? But anyway. . . Bert comes in and talks to this journalist. Bus already plants the seed about Brett's wishywashness. . . . Brett comes in and says he just shoots it straight, gives an analogy to playing football, how he just shoots from the hip. . .

Now, Bus set the stage and Bert hits it out of the park, like usual. Only problem, all people are seeing is the word Diva associated with Favre, coming from his agents mouth. He was trying to set the table for Bert, but he used a bad set of words.

At the end of this whole thing, Bus and Bert wanted to spin Bert off as a straight shooter who shoots from the hip, but doesn't know what he wants to do. Instead, Bert just looks like a bigger diva.

You can fool people for a long time, but eventually, no matter how clever you are, it's going to get tougher and tougher to keep fooling people. I'm sure a few more people are off the Bert band wagon in this. All that's remaining is the few die hards and the Viking fans who's hope lie in his intercpetion throwing hands.

[retailguy]

Bert and Bus have always had an amazing way of manipulating the general public. In this case, they overestimated the publics ability to put all of the pieces together.


Bus tells this journalist this line, ripping Ed Werder like he's some sort of A-hole for being, "first", when really it's the ultimate compliment. Bus gives Ed everything. Anyone skilled in communication knows people are more likely to buy into something they come up with. Instead of telling people what he wants them to believe, he tells them something else with an easily encoded message inside, and then people think they put it all together themselves and are much more willing to accept it. This guy is a lawyer, right? How very lawyer of him. And we're not even into Bert yet. Bus gets done saying this, then Bert comes in and also talks to the Journalist. Oh, and didn't bus just get done saying, "why talk" and now he has this whole talk-fest set up? ? But anyway. . . Bert comes in and talks to this journalist. Bus already plants the seed about Brett's wishywashness. . . . Brett comes in and says he just shoots it straight, gives an analogy to playing football, how he just shoots from the hip. . .

Now, Bus set the stage and Bert hits it out of the park, like usual. Only problem, all people are seeing is the word Diva associated with Favre, coming from his agents mouth. He was trying to set the table for Bert, but he used a bad set of words.

At the end of this whole thing, Bus and Bert wanted to spin Bert off as a straight shooter who shoots from the hip, but doesn't know what he wants to do. Instead, Bert just looks like a bigger diva.

You can fool people for a long time, but eventually, no matter how clever you are, it's going to get tougher and tougher to keep fooling people. I'm sure a few more people are off the Bert band wagon in this. All that's remaining is the few die hards and the Viking fans who's hope lie in his intercpetion throwing hands.

you need a new tinfoil hat.

[pbmax]

Bus gets done saying this [why talk to reporters], then Bert comes in and also talks to the Journalist. Oh, and didn't bus just get done saying, "why talk" and now he has this whole talk-fest set up?

Exactly.

[RashanGary]

Bus gets done saying this [why talk to reporters], then Bert comes in and also talks to the Journalist. Oh, and didn't bus just get done saying, "why talk" and now he has this whole talk-fest set up?

Exactly.

You could either be agreeing with me, or laughing at me because I said the same thing twice (once implied and the 2nd time directly).