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Merlin, what I want to know is, why is the duck bill of that Jets hat in your avatar so damn long? Was that thing custom made?
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Originally posted by Lurker64
Bus Cook: "Brett talked to goddamned Ed Werder at ESPN, says he needs ankle surgery. Now why did he do that?" Cook asked. "I've got [Brad] Childress calling. I've got reporters calling all damn morning. Goddammit, why does he have to be such a goddamned drama queen? Play, don't play, goddamn, people are getting sick of it. I'm getting sick of it!
"Why does he have to talk to these people? What good does it do? Ed Werder at ESPN! What's he ever done for anybody other than say, 'Look, look, Mommy, I got this first, ain't I special?' You got problems with surgery, talk to your wife. Why talk to goddamned Ed Werder?"
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Cook's in big trouble. Agents are only allowed to put a glowing spin on the character of the players they represent. This is just far too much honesty for the system to handle.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by Lurker64
Bus Cook: "Brett talked to goddamned Ed Werder at ESPN, says he needs ankle surgery. Now why did he do that?" Cook asked. "I've got [Brad] Childress calling. I've got reporters calling all damn morning. Goddammit, why does he have to be such a goddamned drama queen? Play, don't play, goddamn, people are getting sick of it. I'm getting sick of it!
"Why does he have to talk to these people? What good does it do? Ed Werder at ESPN! What's he ever done for anybody other than say, 'Look, look, Mommy, I got this first, ain't I special?' You got problems with surgery, talk to your wife. Why talk to goddamned Ed Werder?"
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I never thought Bus would come out looking like a good guy. I guess we can cross off the idea that Bus was always the one manipulating Favre's actions.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by Lurker64
Bus Cook: "Brett talked to goddamned Ed Werder at ESPN, says he needs ankle surgery. Now why did he do that?" Cook asked. "I've got [Brad] Childress calling. I've got reporters calling all damn morning. Goddammit, why does he have to be such a goddamned drama queen? Play, don't play, goddamn, people are getting sick of it. I'm getting sick of it!
"Why does he have to talk to these people? What good does it do? Ed Werder at ESPN! What's he ever done for anybody other than say, 'Look, look, Mommy, I got this first, ain't I special?' You got problems with surgery, talk to your wife. Why talk to goddamned Ed Werder?"
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Zool - love the avatar! Randy, there's a shit storm a brewin' in the Favre thread!!!
I don't expect him to last the year (if he does - God bless him, I'm taking the law of averages on a 40 YO dude), as NO gave out the blue print - knock the crap out of him and get in his head. Like - flipping passes into the end zone while he's over the LOS because he's scared to dive into the end zone or the first down.
I've bought the mag, and read the article with the drama queen portion pasted below from what you can get for free at mensjournal.com. I wouldn't be surprised if the drama queen comments were planned, and fabricated. It's their usual, good cop, bad cop, schtick. Brett opens his mouth, and Bus has to be the a-hole. Bus Cook comes off as a the country (real estate originally) lawyer who's ship came in, when he met Brett over vodka and grapefruits while he was at Southern Miss, and let him get away with anything.
As Denny Green said, "He's not who we thought he was", and the Packers are as much to blame for that and allowing it, as he is. By the time the Pack had the youngest team in the league that wouldn't fly anymore if you want to go places. No different than LBJ and the Cav's owner, only difference is we got a TON of miles out of BF, while Cleveland lost him in his prime.
Without giving a bunch away for those who'd like to read the article, Bus and Brett were talking how old school and a hard ass that Irv Favre was, which confirmed to me what many on here thought, that when Irv died Brett became a prima donna without someone to keep him grounded.
From Stephen Rodrick’s Brett Favre in Overtime:
It’s not quite 10AM, and the hamlet of Hattiesburg is already blowing things up. He has walked the grounds of his Monticello-on-the-Mayberry spread in Mississippi and dispatched two possums with his shotgun. “They were acting weird,” he reasoned. “Maybe they had ray-bees.” That was productive. He then returned an e-mail to an ESPN reporter. That didn’t work out so hot.
Three miles down U.S. Route 98, a visitor sits in the empty waiting room of a two-story office building. It belongs to Brett Favre’s agent. There are no magazines. There are no pictures of the prince. The visitor waits. And he waits. He watches a paint crew arrive. He watches a paint crew depart. He watches paint dry.
But he hears things. Phones ringing. Phones slamming. Cussing. Lots of cussing. An hour passes. A secretary apologizes for the delay. Finally, a Southern almost-gentleman appears. He’s the man behind the salty phone voice, and his face and ears are beet red. There’s no suit. Rather, he’s dressed in the uniform of the affluent adult child — shorts, sneakers, and golf shirt. He sticks out his hand.
“Bus Cook. I know you’re media, but do you know who I hate? The goddamn media! You watch ESPN this morning?”
“No.”
“Brett talked to goddamned Ed Werder at ESPN, says he needs ankle surgery. Now why did he do that? I’ve got Childress calling. I’ve got reporterscalling all damn morning. Goddammit, why does he have to be such a goddamned drama queen? Play, don’t play, goddamn, people are getting sick of it. I’m getting sick of it! Why does he have to talk to these people? What good does it do? Ed Werder at ESPN! What’s he ever done for anybody other than say, ‘Look, look, Mommy, I got this first, ain’t I special?’ You got problems with surgery, talk to your wife. Why talk to goddamned Ed Werder?”
A giant white pickup truck rumbles into the parking lot. The driver gingerly steps down from his perch. Cook looks out the window. He mulishly paws the rug with his sneakers.
“Goddamn, there’s Brett. This is going to be interesting.”
The silver-haired Favre is dressed in shorts and a sleeveless T-shirt, looking simultaneously like a kid and the grandpa he has just become. As he comes in the front door, his ruddy face breaks into a sheepish grin, one he’s flashed a thousand times, chinstrap undone, at head coaches after throwing across his body into double coverage. He didn’t flash it the lasttime he tried that maneuver on New Orleans turf. He was too tired, too broken. Actually, we may never see that smile again. That’s why we are here.
“Hey, Bus,” says Favre.
He speaks slowly, a boy trying to delay a spanking.
“I guess I screwed up. I didn’t think it was a big deal. I just told him that I might need surgery. He made it into a big thing.”
Bus stares him down, but his face crumples into an exasperated grin.
“Jesus, Brett. You never learn. You guys go talk. I’ve got goddamn phone calls to make.” He pokes a finger at Brett. “Thanks to you.”
Favre eases himself into a chair with the slight, obligatory groan of the middle-aged. (He turns 41 in October.) He knows what you’re thinking. On the field, you want him drawing plays up in the dirt, making things happen without a plan. You don’t want to know that’s how Favre lives the rest of his life. The ankle surgery kerfuffle — getting the procedure done, the speculation goes, may indicate he’s coming back — is just the latest production number in year three of “Will He or Won’t He Play,” Favre’s one-man show. At this point everyone is counting ceiling tiles and looking at their watches.
“You’d think I’d know better by now,” he says. He offers a different kind of smile: sad and weary. “I’ve learned a lot through the years. What I haven’t learned is what I’ll do and when I’ll do it.”"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGeeComment
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Well a few things about that saints game that can counter the "blueprint to beat brett favre"
The vikings, despite five, count it, 5 turnovers, still put up 28 points. If thats how you beat that offense, that is news to me. They turn it over 5 times and still drop 28 on you.
favre still throws for 300, and if it wasn't for the one ILLEGAL hit, favre's ankle wouldn't of gotten messed up - so who knows what happens then. On top of that, you would never guess that 3 of your main offensive weapons would have fumbles in key situations. Okay, maybe you can say if you hit brett a lot he throws 2 picks, but he still threw for 300 and put 28 on the board. So, it was hardly a "horrible" game.
Now, can he last the season taking that punishment? No. Do most teams have the weapons to cause that sort of punishment? No.
The latter is why he will last the season. He has a pretty solid front 5 in front of him, and they can run the ball really well. That blueprint works, sure (just keep coming after him), but it wasn;'t like it wasn't tried by other teams earlier. They just didn't have the right players to get by that line.
And even with that, it still took 3 other vikings fumbling the ball in, if those fumbles didn't happen, what would of been a laughable blow out.
I want the vikings to lose, but if I am putting money on it - #4 makes it the whole season. he hasn't missed a game in like, two decades. He knows how to take hits, and play through pain. He'll be just fine. Everyone acts like "the saints figured out how to beat brett, beat teh piss out of him" - isn't that how you beat ANY great qb? You pressure him and constantly hit him? You what what usually accompanies great QB's (outside of with AR)? Great offensive lines.Comment
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Originally posted by Bert Favre
Tracy Porter seemed to figure out what he'd do and when he'd do it.Comment
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Pretty easy when the ball is pretty much handed to you. Favre might as well ahve reached out and handed it to an on coming defender on a handoff with that throw.Originally posted by Scott CampbellComment
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Says the guy who switched to a Jets hat for his avatar.Originally posted by MerlinI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
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That's all true. A man can dream though can't he? Call it wishful thinking then on my part.Originally posted by packerbacker1234
Never said it was a horrible game, said they got in his head. AP running for 122 yds and 4.9 a carry will tend to open things up for you, despite the fumbles. Of the 5 turn overs he had 2 picks and a botched hand off to AP on NO's 5 YDL with 30 seconds left in the 2nd qtr and on that last play needed maybe 5 yards for a game winning FG (after not noticing 12 in the huddle), hence the comments about flicking the ball while over the LOS, instead of running for it (or throwing it away, but come on who are we talking about here) though he hasn't had that in his game for a long, long, time.
He also had the bruised thigh which he posted pictures of after the game as an excuse. I don't want him hurt, crippled, or maimed, we know he can take punishment, but I'm sick of him and I hate the Vikings.
Vikings vs. Saints opening weekend!!! Straight off the tractor into the fire."When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGeeComment
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You know you've made a bad argument when you can refute it in about 3 seconds. For example:Originally posted by Merlin
Merlin, here's my advice: never go into the "Brett Favre living legend thread" If you enjoy talking Packers, stick to the other threads. It seems to me as though you come to Packerrats looking to be offended then leave, then repeat. Repeat. Repeat...Originally posted by retailguy"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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People sure seem to hate Bert Favre. Is that really so bad?Comment
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This is your typical Bert/Bus media manipulation, except this time they overestimated the general public's ability to see the underlying message that they intended to send.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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