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  • #46
    Originally posted by CaptainD
    Originally posted by FlashPack
    Originally posted by Merlin
    Interesting that ALL of the blame goes on Favre, you are haters one and all. Thompson was in that debacle as well and he was as responsible for what transpired as Favre was, yet you give him a pass. You all parrot what the media said, but you really have zero idea of what really happened.

    Apparently reality doesn't set well with some of you: Things were so much worse before Thompson got here, we were losing every year, the team sucked, no direction, poor players. Thank God Thompson was hired to change all of that and make this franchise successful once again. I mean really his 31-33 regular season record, his stellar number of playoff appearances, and Super Bowl appearances, are second to none.

    It's time to switch to water because the kool-aid you are drinking has really clouded your minds...
    Not any worse then the load of horse manure you spewed in this post..Please
    Saw this posted on another forum which summarizes this whole fiasco the best,
    Kudos to Wizard 87 For the post:
    Something to consider to those curious at the reaction of some fans…keep in mind it is but my humble opinion.

    The decision to go with Rodgers was not because the packers felt Favre was washed up. He obviously had value, as they were able to trade him late in the off season for a 3rd round pick. It was a combination of having no commitment beyond one year at a time, having to plan for that day without knowing when it would be, the readiness of Rodgers whom they drafted because of Favres uncertainty each off season, and the frustration with having a yearly event (blame the media if you want) around “will he” or won’t he”. The packers may have privately hoped he would retire, but they always left that decision to him. Once it was in, they went forward with the plan they had in place for that day.

    Making assumptions that the packers didn’t want favre or thought he was washed up, or had no reverence for the mans accomplishments are just that, assumptions made by fans to further what they want to believe or disdain with packer management. There’s no factual evidence to any of it.

    The packers for obvious reasons simply didn’t want him to play in their division if they could control it, they knew he didn’t take the news well and had enough dealing with the drama surrounding favre to add to it by facing him twice a year. It’s not as though they didn’t think he could play, they just didn’t know for how long and they knew Rodgers could as well.

    Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why does there have to be a villainous plot behind the scenes? The jets made the very same decision the packers did in one years time, yet people still cant understand the common denominator on both accounts. A young QB who they feel good about.

    Favre didn’t take the news well, he is still very upset with the packers and his actions only validate that point. He’s provided help to packer opponents, aired his angst on TV with Greta, and even in the jets locker room (last season). Favre is guilty of initiating through his actions and words more distraction and drama than anyone else in all this, and even though I am still a fan, at some point enough is enough. I want Favre and all that comes with it to just go away so I can get back to remembering him for what he ought to be remembered for. But instead, he’s still closer than ever creating distraction in the wake of the process of moving on.

    A process I wish Favre would have discovered.
    That is a perfect way to put it. Thompson had a plan all along. That's the first thing you want to hear coming from your GM. I'm a huge Bucks fans and post all the time on RealGM, and after reading Bucks' GM John Hammond's comments saying "We had no plan" I was baffled.

    The fact that Thompson is letting all these young guys develop together and keep expanding their chemistry down the road is great. The fact that people think the Packers are in the wrong after Favre retired and gave Rodgers the reigns is what I can't stand. You can't just tell someone they have a job and immediately take the label away from them, whether you're giving the job to Brett Favre, Jon Kitna, Dikembe Mutombo, or Gandhi.

    Imagine what we'd be in right now had Favre came back, probably had a very similar if not a worse season last year with Favre's wild gunslinging ways, and an unhappy Rodgers.

    I am beyond glad we're in the situation we're in now.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by DannoMac21
      Originally posted by CaptainD
      Originally posted by FlashPack
      Originally posted by Merlin
      Interesting that ALL of the blame goes on Favre, you are haters one and all. Thompson was in that debacle as well and he was as responsible for what transpired as Favre was, yet you give him a pass. You all parrot what the media said, but you really have zero idea of what really happened.

      Apparently reality doesn't set well with some of you: Things were so much worse before Thompson got here, we were losing every year, the team sucked, no direction, poor players. Thank God Thompson was hired to change all of that and make this franchise successful once again. I mean really his 31-33 regular season record, his stellar number of playoff appearances, and Super Bowl appearances, are second to none.

      It's time to switch to water because the kool-aid you are drinking has really clouded your minds...
      Not any worse then the load of horse manure you spewed in this post..Please
      Saw this posted on another forum which summarizes this whole fiasco the best,
      Kudos to Wizard 87 For the post:
      Something to consider to those curious at the reaction of some fans…keep in mind it is but my humble opinion.

      The decision to go with Rodgers was not because the packers felt Favre was washed up. He obviously had value, as they were able to trade him late in the off season for a 3rd round pick. It was a combination of having no commitment beyond one year at a time, having to plan for that day without knowing when it would be, the readiness of Rodgers whom they drafted because of Favres uncertainty each off season, and the frustration with having a yearly event (blame the media if you want) around “will he” or won’t he”. The packers may have privately hoped he would retire, but they always left that decision to him. Once it was in, they went forward with the plan they had in place for that day.

      Making assumptions that the packers didn’t want favre or thought he was washed up, or had no reverence for the mans accomplishments are just that, assumptions made by fans to further what they want to believe or disdain with packer management. There’s no factual evidence to any of it.

      The packers for obvious reasons simply didn’t want him to play in their division if they could control it, they knew he didn’t take the news well and had enough dealing with the drama surrounding favre to add to it by facing him twice a year. It’s not as though they didn’t think he could play, they just didn’t know for how long and they knew Rodgers could as well.

      Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why does there have to be a villainous plot behind the scenes? The jets made the very same decision the packers did in one years time, yet people still cant understand the common denominator on both accounts. A young QB who they feel good about.

      Favre didn’t take the news well, he is still very upset with the packers and his actions only validate that point. He’s provided help to packer opponents, aired his angst on TV with Greta, and even in the jets locker room (last season). Favre is guilty of initiating through his actions and words more distraction and drama than anyone else in all this, and even though I am still a fan, at some point enough is enough. I want Favre and all that comes with it to just go away so I can get back to remembering him for what he ought to be remembered for. But instead, he’s still closer than ever creating distraction in the wake of the process of moving on.

      A process I wish Favre would have discovered.
      That is a perfect way to put it. Thompson had a plan all along. That's the first thing you want to hear coming from your GM. I'm a huge Bucks fans and post all the time on RealGM, and after reading Bucks' GM John Hammond's comments saying "We had no plan" I was baffled.

      The fact that Thompson is letting all these young guys develop together and keep expanding their chemistry down the road is great. The fact that people think the Packers are in the wrong after Favre retired and gave Rodgers the reigns is what I can't stand. You can't just tell someone they have a job and immediately take the label away from them, whether you're giving the job to Brett Favre, Jon Kitna, Dikembe Mutombo, or Gandhi.

      Imagine what we'd be in right now had Favre came back, probably had a very similar if not a worse season last year with Favre's wild gunslinging ways, and an unhappy Rodgers.

      I am beyond glad we're in the situation we're in now.
      We would have a Rodgers who would bolt at the end of this season, and then all the people who bitched at TT from not bowing to Lord Favre would be bitching at him for not having a QB at all. I agree with you in being happy about the current Qb situation.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by CaptainD
        Originally posted by FlashPack
        Originally posted by Merlin
        Interesting that ALL of the blame goes on Favre, you are haters one and all. Thompson was in that debacle as well and he was as responsible for what transpired as Favre was, yet you give him a pass. You all parrot what the media said, but you really have zero idea of what really happened.

        Apparently reality doesn't set well with some of you: Things were so much worse before Thompson got here, we were losing every year, the team sucked, no direction, poor players. Thank God Thompson was hired to change all of that and make this franchise successful once again. I mean really his 31-33 regular season record, his stellar number of playoff appearances, and Super Bowl appearances, are second to none.

        It's time to switch to water because the kool-aid you are drinking has really clouded your minds...
        Not any worse then the load of horse manure you spewed in this post..Please
        Saw this posted on another forum which summarizes this whole fiasco the best,
        Kudos to Wizard 87 For the post:
        Something to consider to those curious at the reaction of some fans…keep in mind it is but my humble opinion.

        The decision to go with Rodgers was not because the packers felt Favre was washed up. He obviously had value, as they were able to trade him late in the off season for a 3rd round pick. It was a combination of having no commitment beyond one year at a time, having to plan for that day without knowing when it would be, the readiness of Rodgers whom they drafted because of Favres uncertainty each off season, and the frustration with having a yearly event (blame the media if you want) around “will he” or won’t he”. The packers may have privately hoped he would retire, but they always left that decision to him. Once it was in, they went forward with the plan they had in place for that day.

        Making assumptions that the packers didn’t want favre or thought he was washed up, or had no reverence for the mans accomplishments are just that, assumptions made by fans to further what they want to believe or disdain with packer management. There’s no factual evidence to any of it.

        The packers for obvious reasons simply didn’t want him to play in their division if they could control it, they knew he didn’t take the news well and had enough dealing with the drama surrounding favre to add to it by facing him twice a year. It’s not as though they didn’t think he could play, they just didn’t know for how long and they knew Rodgers could as well.

        Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why does there have to be a villainous plot behind the scenes? The jets made the very same decision the packers did in one years time, yet people still cant understand the common denominator on both accounts. A young QB who they feel good about.

        Favre didn’t take the news well, he is still very upset with the packers and his actions only validate that point. He’s provided help to packer opponents, aired his angst on TV with Greta, and even in the jets locker room (last season). Favre is guilty of initiating through his actions and words more distraction and drama than anyone else in all this, and even though I am still a fan, at some point enough is enough. I want Favre and all that comes with it to just go away so I can get back to remembering him for what he ought to be remembered for. But instead, he’s still closer than ever creating distraction in the wake of the process of moving on.

        A process I wish Favre would have discovered.

        Nice post, and welcome aboard. And it's from somebody who gets paid for his opinion.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by bobblehead
          I love how people build up their own world as a survival mechanism and can ignore facts and reality in it.

          If Deanna called TT she would probably be talking to the secretary for about 5 hours.

          lmao.......
          They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

          Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Scott Campbell
            Originally posted by CaptainD
            Originally posted by FlashPack
            Originally posted by Merlin
            Interesting that ALL of the blame goes on Favre, you are haters one and all. Thompson was in that debacle as well and he was as responsible for what transpired as Favre was, yet you give him a pass. You all parrot what the media said, but you really have zero idea of what really happened.

            Apparently reality doesn't set well with some of you: Things were so much worse before Thompson got here, we were losing every year, the team sucked, no direction, poor players. Thank God Thompson was hired to change all of that and make this franchise successful once again. I mean really his 31-33 regular season record, his stellar number of playoff appearances, and Super Bowl appearances, are second to none.

            It's time to switch to water because the kool-aid you are drinking has really clouded your minds...
            Not any worse then the load of horse manure you spewed in this post..Please
            Saw this posted on another forum which summarizes this whole fiasco the best,
            Kudos to Wizard 87 For the post:
            Something to consider to those curious at the reaction of some fans…keep in mind it is but my humble opinion.

            The decision to go with Rodgers was not because the packers felt Favre was washed up. He obviously had value, as they were able to trade him late in the off season for a 3rd round pick. It was a combination of having no commitment beyond one year at a time, having to plan for that day without knowing when it would be, the readiness of Rodgers whom they drafted because of Favres uncertainty each off season, and the frustration with having a yearly event (blame the media if you want) around “will he” or won’t he”. The packers may have privately hoped he would retire, but they always left that decision to him. Once it was in, they went forward with the plan they had in place for that day.

            Making assumptions that the packers didn’t want favre or thought he was washed up, or had no reverence for the mans accomplishments are just that, assumptions made by fans to further what they want to believe or disdain with packer management. There’s no factual evidence to any of it.

            The packers for obvious reasons simply didn’t want him to play in their division if they could control it, they knew he didn’t take the news well and had enough dealing with the drama surrounding favre to add to it by facing him twice a year. It’s not as though they didn’t think he could play, they just didn’t know for how long and they knew Rodgers could as well.

            Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why does there have to be a villainous plot behind the scenes? The jets made the very same decision the packers did in one years time, yet people still cant understand the common denominator on both accounts. A young QB who they feel good about.

            Favre didn’t take the news well, he is still very upset with the packers and his actions only validate that point. He’s provided help to packer opponents, aired his angst on TV with Greta, and even in the jets locker room (last season). Favre is guilty of initiating through his actions and words more distraction and drama than anyone else in all this, and even though I am still a fan, at some point enough is enough. I want Favre and all that comes with it to just go away so I can get back to remembering him for what he ought to be remembered for. But instead, he’s still closer than ever creating distraction in the wake of the process of moving on.

            A process I wish Favre would have discovered.

            Nice post, and welcome aboard. And it's from somebody who gets paid for his opinion.
            people pay for garbage like that?

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            • #51
              What exactly is the problem with it?
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #52
                Originally posted by cpk1994
                How many NFC title games did your lord Mike Sherman make? I'll wait while you try to count to 0. Ted Thompson has 1. Embarassing playoff losses, destroyed depth. Cap hell. But you keep drinking the kool aid that Sherman was great, becuase reality tells a different story. Whatever fuels your agenda I guess.
                Hard to lambast Sherman when his teams were competitive every single year except his last. Neither him or McCarthy won us a superbowl yet.
                Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by PackerBlues
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by CaptainD
                  Originally posted by FlashPack
                  Originally posted by Merlin
                  Interesting that ALL of the blame goes on Favre, you are haters one and all. Thompson was in that debacle as well and he was as responsible for what transpired as Favre was, yet you give him a pass. You all parrot what the media said, but you really have zero idea of what really happened.

                  Apparently reality doesn't set well with some of you: Things were so much worse before Thompson got here, we were losing every year, the team sucked, no direction, poor players. Thank God Thompson was hired to change all of that and make this franchise successful once again. I mean really his 31-33 regular season record, his stellar number of playoff appearances, and Super Bowl appearances, are second to none.

                  It's time to switch to water because the kool-aid you are drinking has really clouded your minds...
                  Not any worse then the load of horse manure you spewed in this post..Please
                  Saw this posted on another forum which summarizes this whole fiasco the best,
                  Kudos to Wizard 87 For the post:
                  Something to consider to those curious at the reaction of some fans…keep in mind it is but my humble opinion.

                  The decision to go with Rodgers was not because the packers felt Favre was washed up. He obviously had value, as they were able to trade him late in the off season for a 3rd round pick. It was a combination of having no commitment beyond one year at a time, having to plan for that day without knowing when it would be, the readiness of Rodgers whom they drafted because of Favres uncertainty each off season, and the frustration with having a yearly event (blame the media if you want) around “will he” or won’t he”. The packers may have privately hoped he would retire, but they always left that decision to him. Once it was in, they went forward with the plan they had in place for that day.

                  Making assumptions that the packers didn’t want favre or thought he was washed up, or had no reverence for the mans accomplishments are just that, assumptions made by fans to further what they want to believe or disdain with packer management. There’s no factual evidence to any of it.

                  The packers for obvious reasons simply didn’t want him to play in their division if they could control it, they knew he didn’t take the news well and had enough dealing with the drama surrounding favre to add to it by facing him twice a year. It’s not as though they didn’t think he could play, they just didn’t know for how long and they knew Rodgers could as well.

                  Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why does there have to be a villainous plot behind the scenes? The jets made the very same decision the packers did in one years time, yet people still cant understand the common denominator on both accounts. A young QB who they feel good about.

                  Favre didn’t take the news well, he is still very upset with the packers and his actions only validate that point. He’s provided help to packer opponents, aired his angst on TV with Greta, and even in the jets locker room (last season). Favre is guilty of initiating through his actions and words more distraction and drama than anyone else in all this, and even though I am still a fan, at some point enough is enough. I want Favre and all that comes with it to just go away so I can get back to remembering him for what he ought to be remembered for. But instead, he’s still closer than ever creating distraction in the wake of the process of moving on.

                  A process I wish Favre would have discovered.

                  Nice post, and welcome aboard. And it's from somebody who gets paid for his opinion.
                  people pay for garbage like that?
                  Hey Blues Brett called and you need to wash his truck and pick up his dry cleaning !
                  Another Brett Favre is god poster....

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by falco
                    Originally posted by cpk1994
                    How many NFC title games did your lord Mike Sherman make? I'll wait while you try to count to 0. Ted Thompson has 1. Embarassing playoff losses, destroyed depth. Cap hell. But you keep drinking the kool aid that Sherman was great, becuase reality tells a different story. Whatever fuels your agenda I guess.
                    Hard to lambast Sherman when his teams were competitive every single year except his last. Neither him or McCarthy won us a superbowl yet.
                    It was stated in another thread so I will borrow the analogy a drunk monkey could pick talent and coach better then Mike Sherman. He has even F&^*&*&
                    Texas A & M.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by PackerBlues
                      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                      Originally posted by CaptainD
                      Originally posted by FlashPack
                      Originally posted by Merlin
                      Interesting that ALL of the blame goes on Favre, you are haters one and all. Thompson was in that debacle as well and he was as responsible for what transpired as Favre was, yet you give him a pass. You all parrot what the media said, but you really have zero idea of what really happened.

                      Apparently reality doesn't set well with some of you: Things were so much worse before Thompson got here, we were losing every year, the team sucked, no direction, poor players. Thank God Thompson was hired to change all of that and make this franchise successful once again. I mean really his 31-33 regular season record, his stellar number of playoff appearances, and Super Bowl appearances, are second to none.

                      It's time to switch to water because the kool-aid you are drinking has really clouded your minds...
                      Not any worse then the load of horse manure you spewed in this post..Please
                      Saw this posted on another forum which summarizes this whole fiasco the best,
                      Kudos to Wizard 87 For the post:
                      Something to consider to those curious at the reaction of some fans…keep in mind it is but my humble opinion.

                      The decision to go with Rodgers was not because the packers felt Favre was washed up. He obviously had value, as they were able to trade him late in the off season for a 3rd round pick. It was a combination of having no commitment beyond one year at a time, having to plan for that day without knowing when it would be, the readiness of Rodgers whom they drafted because of Favres uncertainty each off season, and the frustration with having a yearly event (blame the media if you want) around “will he” or won’t he”. The packers may have privately hoped he would retire, but they always left that decision to him. Once it was in, they went forward with the plan they had in place for that day.

                      Making assumptions that the packers didn’t want favre or thought he was washed up, or had no reverence for the mans accomplishments are just that, assumptions made by fans to further what they want to believe or disdain with packer management. There’s no factual evidence to any of it.

                      The packers for obvious reasons simply didn’t want him to play in their division if they could control it, they knew he didn’t take the news well and had enough dealing with the drama surrounding favre to add to it by facing him twice a year. It’s not as though they didn’t think he could play, they just didn’t know for how long and they knew Rodgers could as well.

                      Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why does there have to be a villainous plot behind the scenes? The jets made the very same decision the packers did in one years time, yet people still cant understand the common denominator on both accounts. A young QB who they feel good about.

                      Favre didn’t take the news well, he is still very upset with the packers and his actions only validate that point. He’s provided help to packer opponents, aired his angst on TV with Greta, and even in the jets locker room (last season). Favre is guilty of initiating through his actions and words more distraction and drama than anyone else in all this, and even though I am still a fan, at some point enough is enough. I want Favre and all that comes with it to just go away so I can get back to remembering him for what he ought to be remembered for. But instead, he’s still closer than ever creating distraction in the wake of the process of moving on.

                      A process I wish Favre would have discovered.

                      Nice post, and welcome aboard. And it's from somebody who gets paid for his opinion.
                      people pay for garbage like that?

                      Awww Truth hurts doesn't it !

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by FlashPack
                        It was stated in another thread so I will borrow the analogy a drunk monkey could pick talent and coach better then Mike Sherman. He has even F&^*&*&
                        Texas A & M.
                        Can't argue that he was a horrible talent evaluator. But shitty coaches don't make the playoffs year after year.
                        Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by falco
                          Originally posted by FlashPack
                          It was stated in another thread so I will borrow the analogy a drunk monkey could pick talent and coach better then Mike Sherman. He has even F&^*&*&
                          Texas A & M.
                          Can't argue that he was a horrible talent evaluator. But shitty coaches don't make the playoffs year after year.
                          I don't know about that. I don't think Sherman was terrible as a coach at all, but talent goes a long way. Mike Martz, Jerry Glanville, Norv Turner and Wade Phillips have had strings of playoffs made, but that is not the Mt. Rushmore of coaching either.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by pbmax
                            Originally posted by falco
                            Originally posted by FlashPack
                            It was stated in another thread so I will borrow the analogy a drunk monkey could pick talent and coach better then Mike Sherman. He has even F&^*&*&
                            Texas A & M.
                            Can't argue that he was a horrible talent evaluator. But shitty coaches don't make the playoffs year after year.
                            I don't know about that. I don't think Sherman was terrible as a coach at all, but talent goes a long way. Mike Martz, Jerry Glanville, Norv Turner and Wade Phillips have had strings of playoffs made, but that is not the Mt. Rushmore of coaching either.

                            I think Sherman tailed off as a coach. He started out ok, but then the rumors of what happened if staff members disagreed with him started to surface. He had an amazing ability to rally the troops when backs were against the wall. Without checking, I seem to remember some solidly talented teams that got off to 1-4 starts.

                            He seemed to have some gaping holes in his coaching skill set - Bob Slowik perhaps being the biggest.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by falco
                              Originally posted by FlashPack
                              It was stated in another thread so I will borrow the analogy a drunk monkey could pick talent and coach better then Mike Sherman. He has even F&^*&*&
                              Texas A & M.
                              Can't argue that he was a horrible talent evaluator. But shitty coaches don't make the playoffs year after year.


                              He inherited Brett Favre at close to his peak, Ahman Green at his peak, and one of the best offensive lines we've ever seen in Green Bay. I think it's borderline criminal that there was no Superbowl appearance in his tenure.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                                Originally posted by falco
                                Originally posted by FlashPack
                                It was stated in another thread so I will borrow the analogy a drunk monkey could pick talent and coach better then Mike Sherman. He has even F&^*&*&
                                Texas A & M.
                                Can't argue that he was a horrible talent evaluator. But shitty coaches don't make the playoffs year after year.


                                He inherited Brett Favre at close to his peak, Ahman Green at his peak, and one of the best offensive lines we've ever seen in Green Bay. I think it's borderline criminal that there was no Superbowl appearance in his tenure.
                                I agree with that. I am glad Sherman is gone, but just think he gets a little bit of an unfair rap here.
                                Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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