Breaking News on Brett Favre!

[Cheesehead Craig]

I deplore you to look up the word "Hypocrisy"...

I deplore you to look up the word "deplore".

I deplore this whole situation.

[retailguy]

Brett Favre: "I wont come back, even if I get the itch"

"Its all rumor"

"No Deanna, Im not addicted to pain pills"

etc etc

you have difficulty reading, don't you?

[mraynrand]

for Brettus is an honourable man; so are they all, all honourable men

[Fritz]

Favre reportedly to have arm surgery this week
Retired QB will have biceps tendon repaired; rehab to take 6-8 weeks

NBCSports.com news services
updated 35 minutes ago

Brett Favre will meet with Dr. James Andrews on Tuesday to discuss surgery on his torn right biceps tendon, the St. Paul Pioneer-Press reported Monday, citing no sources.

Favre is expected to undergo the surgery this week and would begin a 6-8 week rehab, the newspaper reported.

If all goes well with the surgery, Favre is expected to sign with the Vikings, the newspaper reported.

This all reminds me of the television commercials for the Popeil Pocket Fisherman or the amazing slicer dicer ("makes Julienne fries, too!"). The announcer would tell you two or three things you'd get for $19.99 ("You get the Popeil Pocket Fisherman, the bait bucket, and two sinkers!"), then he'd say, "But wait, there's more!"

Just when you think Favre may really be retired....all done....."But wait, there's more!"

[Chevelle2]

If the surgery goes well, Favre will sign with the Minnesota Vikings, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Mr Favre? Meet BJ and Clay.

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Favre is a shown liar through all of this and a total phony per the Jet's teammates

McCarthy and Thompson are shown honest men through all of this.



Believe who you want just don't whine about it when the majority think you're an idiot.

The majority of people are sheep. Truth be told we have no idea what the true story is.

[retailguy]

Favre reportedly to have arm surgery this week
Retired QB will have biceps tendon repaired; rehab to take 6-8 weeks

NBCSports.com news services
updated 35 minutes ago

Brett Favre will meet with Dr. James Andrews on Tuesday to discuss surgery on his torn right biceps tendon, the St. Paul Pioneer-Press reported Monday, citing no sources.

Favre is expected to undergo the surgery this week and would begin a 6-8 week rehab, the newspaper reported.

If all goes well with the surgery, Favre is expected to sign with the Vikings, the newspaper reported.

This all reminds me of the television commercials for the Popeil Pocket Fisherman or the amazing slicer dicer ("makes Julienne fries, too!"). The announcer would tell you two or three things you'd get for $19.99 ("You get the Popeil Pocket Fisherman, the bait bucket, and two sinkers!"), then he'd say, "But wait, there's more!"

Just when you think Favre may really be retired....all done....."But wait, there's more!"

Maybe Favre can hock "ShamWow's" after he finally gets too old for anyone to want him.

Poor Vince won't have any money for more hookers, but that's just the way the world works...

Funny stuff Fritz.

[SkinBasket]

You are taking a side when neither you nor any of the rest of us have any idea what really happened.

I deplore you to look up the word "Hypocrisy"...

It's hard to argue the other side's arguments when you're busy defeating your own.

[woodbuck27]

This Favre thing gets more embarassing for us Packer fans as it goes on, and on. Proof that it was embarassing to the Packer Organization can be seen in the fact the 'O' offered Brett Favre $20 Million just to stay retired. That was a payoff to make it all go away as Favre was still under contract and stood to make more than the $20 million dollars if he played out his contract.

Noone here really knows how it really went down. It's clear that Favre wanted to continue playing in Green Bay. Someone decided the response from the Packers was 'a no'. That response came after one of Brett Favre's best seasons under center or the 2007 season, and given that success maybe he simply felt he had more in the tank for 2008. A decision was made against Favre. Aaron Rodgers took over and played well. Yet our team faltered in it's won - loss record and in the NFCN. Something more than a QB controversy was at the head of problems for us in 2008. We couldn't stop the run. Enter Dom Capers and a new defense to be installed and hope for more in 2009.

I see it all as uplifting. It sure appears the saga will continue as Favre looks ready to take the steps to repair his damaged right shoulder and sign a contract with our arch rivals or the team he was set to go to last season. The Minnesota Vikings. Could a worse case scenario be scripted for the Packer organization? Maybe not? Yet why get worked up over it as a possibility today? Why bicker among ourselves here on our forum over the life of an athlete many of us admired and many still do respect and cannot help but not wish bad will upon?

Common decency dictates we let go of this issue here. To smash one another over it makes us lesser people. It brings down bad karma on our overall experience as Packerrats. We have some opposing and very strong personality's here. Let's enjoy a truce and just wait for the results on the field. I think it's simply very interesting as this continues.

It's not worth insult or condemnation among good Packer fans and certainly fellow forum members.

How as Packer fans should we get through this mess? I suggest we just allow it to run it's course. Why build up emotions and animosity among ourselves? Why act foolishly petty over something beyond our control, as simply Packer and NFL fans? Rather as fans of this sport we love, I suggest we just enjoy it all. Allow the cards to fall as they will.

Enjoy the competition. Let's leave it on the field. We're only fans. We're also Green Bay Packer fans and for one of to suggest otherwise Vs another is worse than immature or petty. It's shameful.

My name is Ed. woodbuck27 A Packer fan for 50 years.

[Fritz]

Ah...let's just bash each other.

[CaptainD]

Favre is starting to piss me off:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Looks like Paco has already commented on the article.

Last year, when Favre applied for reinstatement from retirement, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell -- who was responsible for the reinstatement -- saw the potential for a sour scene at Packers training camp and decided to reach out to Favre by phone.

According to sources, Favre explained to Goodell that he had no choice but to ask the Packers to come back in order to force his release if they wouldn't let him compete with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job in Green Bay.

Favre's intention was to be released and join the Minnesota Vikings, the Packers' NFC North rivals.

At one point, according to the source, Favre got passionate on the phone, telling Goodell, "He (Thompson) doesn't want me going to Minnesota because he knows I'll kick his ass twice a year!"

That makes it mere hearsay. Mere hearsay at a time of high emotion for Favre even if he went there. If he went there? Favre like all here is a mere human being and things this time last season were highly charged.

Again, Favre is human.

What can I say? The conspiracy theorists can argue all they want and do revisionist history all they want but facts are facts.
1) TT did not kiss Brett's butt and sign a horde of FAs while Brett was here but that was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Thats just how TT operates. He is no more urgent to sign FAs with Rodgers as QB than he was with Brett. Is he now trying to run Rodgers out of town?

2)The decision to draft Rodgers was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Rodgers was the best player on the board. Brett was 36. Brett had been waffling for a couple years already about retirement. The Packers had no quality backup QB let alone an heir apparant if Brett were to leave. And Rodgers just fell to them. And remember Brett kept the job for 3 years after Rodgers arrived and would have kept it in 2008 had Brett not retired.

3) Brett did in fact retire on his own after the 2007 season. Could the Packers have welcomed him back? Sure. Can people be mad that they did not welcome him back? Of course. But lets not change the procuring cause of the problem which is that Brett decided to "hang em up".

Brett was not forced out. Brett was not run off. Brett was not cut or traded until he himself made the first move by retiring. Folks can argue all you want that the Packers were wrong in trading him or not giving his starting job back or whatever but you cannot change the fact than Brett retired for the entire 2008 offseason and then wanted to come back when camp opened and the Packers said "we've moved on." Brett brought this on himself. Now he is invigorated to "stick it" to Green Bay and TT. That is just how it is. No spinning will change those basic facts

There are two sides to this story and you have only provided one, your own take on it. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth and no one accept Favre and Thompson can clarify what really happened, they each have stuck to their guns so by taking Thompson's side you are calling Favre a liar, by taking Favre's side you are calling Thompson a liar, by just accepting that you don't know what you don't know, you are being intelligent about the matter which is right where any rational person should be. Favre was and perhaps still is a great player to watch play the game. Just because you follow his career doesn't make you a "hater" of anyone, it just shows your love of the game, contrary to what MANY posters in here believe. If you follow the career of Adrian Paterson, are you a hater? What about Joe Montana? Are you a hater? Why is Favre any different? I don't hear anyone blowing their wad about Ryan Longwell anymore, or hell even Darren Sharper. Why is Favre different? I suspect your disdain for him is why you have an a loyalty for the least successful GM we have had in 20 some years. The facts as you put it are there, look it up, Thompson is NOT a successful GM. "We like who we have here", apparently the record doesn't matter as long as you like your own decisions...

The only thing the packers could have done to avert all this would have been to stuff Rodgers back into the closet and reaccept Favre as the starting QB when he decided he wanted to unretire in late june of last year. It certainly appears that they would have had to do so again this year as well, pretty much guaranteeing passage of Rodgers out of green bay as he would not have resigned under those circumstances.

But since the packers chose not to do that Favre has gone on TV to smear the GM, he's provided info to packer opponents, he consistently brought up the packers to jets teammates, and has now pushed to gain his release from the jets to play for the vikings and in the same division as the Packers to serve notice.

In short he has acted like a complete idiot, and I simply do not buy that we have it coming for making a decision that in all reality made fairly good sense....a decision the jets just duplicated with a QB with even less experience. Im not a Favre hater but I definitely don't excuse the man acting like a high school kid who got dumped at the prom.

When a player retires, a team has to set in motion their plan to move on and you walk away from your position on the team. If you decide you made the wrong decision one possibility is that you may not get your job back. Choosing to play for a rival to, at least to some degree, send a message is pretty disappointing.

If you can excuse favres acting out against his former team as "we have it coming", then its only fair that some fans find it offensive and have every bit the right to voice their displeasure.

[CaptainD]

Nice sig, CaptainD... good graphic skills.. That you?

I wish ! Got this last year during training camp and have been wearing it ever since. Folks over at football's future get the credit.

[SkinBasket]

Ah...let's just bash each other.

You smell like dead fish. Your turn!

[RashanGary]

A lot of great points, captain D. This whole thing was out in the open, moreso than anything we've ever seen with the Packers (they had to, fans would not have sat back and just watched idol if there was not a good reason).

TT talked to the public. Favre got up as high as he could so he could scream down the mountain side his view. MM spoke several times to several outlets.

People know what went on. The only people who argue it, are the people who will not accept what Favre did as reality. They think there are hidden evils that Favre is just too nice to tell us about TT. He's holding back, for some reason, the real truth that will damn TT. Anyone who's followed this and does not have a brain block understands that, that is why the majority are holding Favre accountable, and rightfully so. I'm proud of Packer Nation for putting their emotions aside and standing for what is right.

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JH, I'm sure you know what happened at Roswell too, because after all the government said it was just a weather balloon and that's what the media reported.