Rumors: Rodgers may hand off to Westbrook

[Gunakor]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.

It's not always the way he does business. He could have let Drivers contract expire years ago but didn't. He could have let Harris' contract expire but didn't. Both of these guys have far less left in the tank than Grant has. Thompson will pay for production, and as long as Grant is producing I believe Thompson will be the one paying him for that production.

[retailguy]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.

It's not always the way he does business. He could have let Drivers contract expire years ago but didn't. He could have let Harris' contract expire but didn't. Both of these guys have far less left in the tank than Grant has. Thompson will pay for production, and as long as Grant is producing I believe Thompson will be the one paying him for that production.

no one 'always' does things a certain way. plenty of examples where it has played out just as described on both sides. 7m is a lot of money. Green better be damn good or he'll never see it. your stats from above probably aren't enough if Ted thinks he can replace "most" of the production elsewhere.

[Gunakor]

Ted better be sure he can. 1250 yards and 14 TD's with 0 fumbles aren't run of the mill season stats. They're well above average. No matter what anyone says that kind of production is tough to replace in one season. I suppose I couldn't fault him if he knew he had someone better waiting in the wings, but as I said, he better be pretty damned sure of it.

[Tarlam!]

What we know about Grant is that he isn't self motivated. So far, he has been motivated by the big payday, the incentives in his contract and most recently, by the addition of Green.

There's nothing wrong with any of that; as long as TT continues to push the right buttons, Grant should continue his production.

I have faith in TT, that he'll restructure that contract long term, add more guaranteed new money, but also incentive laden.

So, unless Grant refuses a restructure that ensures TT's leverage, I don't see any issues.

[sharpe1027]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.

Any GM that has to cut their mother wasn't that very good to begin with, but at least they are not against correcting their mistakes. Why was she on the team in the first place?

Seriously though, when is that last time TT had to cut a player because of salary?

[pbmax]

What we know about Grant is that he isn't self motivated. So far, he has been motivated by the big payday, the incentives in his contract and most recently, by the addition of Green.

There's nothing wrong with any of that; as long as TT continues to push the right buttons, Grant should continue his production.

I have faith in TT, that he'll restructure that contract long term, add more guaranteed new money, but also incentive laden.

So, unless Grant refuses a restructure that ensures TT's leverage, I don't see any issues.

Does that make him different that 95% of the rest of the NFL? Threatening jobs and money has motivated a lot of professionals, and not just football players. The idea that has taken hold this offseason that the Packers believe they must have serious competition behind him to motivate him* seems dubious.

If that were true, the Packers would not have had Ahman Green behind him last year. And they wouldn't be considering Westbrook this year. Neither is an every down back anymore.

* I remember seeing the "Packers feel they need to motivate Grant through competition" twice this offseason. The last mention was the Westbrook coverage. Don't remember the first. Does anyone know where this original story surfaced? I remember speculation here that Green would motivate Grant last year after the pickup, but this site also believes Joe Thomas is on the trading block.

[pbmax]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.

It's not always the way he does business. He could have let Drivers contract expire years ago but didn't. He could have let Harris' contract expire but didn't. Both of these guys have far less left in the tank than Grant has. Thompson will pay for production, and as long as Grant is producing I believe Thompson will be the one paying him for that production.

no one 'always' does things a certain way. plenty of examples where it has played out just as described on both sides. 7m is a lot of money. Green better be damn good or he'll never see it. your stats from above probably aren't enough if Ted thinks he can replace "most" of the production elsewhere.

Grant's scenario is no different than KGB, except that KGB actually was less than mediocre. He will play unless he can be replaced by something just as good and cheaper barring injury. Harvey's scenario makes sense if his replacement lands on the roster this year. But that guy isn't here yet.

[sharpe1027]

Grant's scenario is no different than KGB, except that KGB actually was less than mediocre. He will play unless he can be replaced by something just as good and cheaper barring injury. Harvey's scenario makes sense if his replacement lands on the roster this year. But that guy isn't here yet.

KGB couldn't play in the NFL anymore, period. He probably could have been near the minimum salary and he still would have been cut. Did any other team even bother to take a flyer on him at the Vet minimum? That's a bit different from cutting a guy that is a starter.

[retailguy]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.

Any GM that has to cut their mother wasn't that very good to begin with, but at least they are not against correcting their mistakes. Why was she on the team in the first place?

Seriously though, when is that last time TT had to cut a player because of salary?

"had to" or "chose to"? I side with the latter. That was my point.

[Lurker64]

Seriously though, when is that last time TT had to cut a player because of salary?

Sharper and Wahle.

Since then? Nobody.

[sharpe1027]

"had to" or "chose to"? I side with the latter. That was my point.

Take your pick. All GMs make that type of move once in awhile. You seem to think TT is particularly prone to those types of moves, but I just don't see much evidence to support your opinion.

[sharpe1027]

Seriously though, when is that last time TT had to cut a player because of salary?

Sharper and Wahle.

Since then? Nobody.

Yeah, but in his defense that was a direct result of the Sherman-caused cap hell situation.

[HarveyWallbangers]

My guess is Harv meant Grant could be cut next offseason.

Correct. Sounds like he'll have a huge bonus coming to him, if he has another solid year. Personally, I think RBs are kind of a dime a dozen, so I can't see playing Grant big money. Hopefully, they'd rework his deal and keep him.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

What? Thompson is no different than any other GM in that he'll judge the money he'll give out based on what he thinks he'll get out of a player. That's called being a good GM. Not sure what else you are trying to get at. He'd just rather go the draft and develop route over the FA signing route. Rodgers, Grant, Jennings, Driver, Tauscher, Pickett, Jenkins, Barnett, Harris, Woodson, Collins, etc. have all gotten paid by Thompson.

[Freak Out]

Thompson would cut his mother if he could get out of paying her.

Gun, don't know what you're thinking. This is the way Ted does business. He doesn't look at it as "money already earned", he looks going forward and evaluates if they are "worth" that in the future.

Your thinking is backwards, but I agree with you.

Did he key your Benz when we were in GB?