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Maybe. Someday. But based on what's happened so far=false.Originally posted by falcoThompson > Wolf = TrueI can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I respectfully disagree, but maybe its an unfair comparison, since things were done differently during Wolf's tenure.Originally posted by JoemailmanMaybe. Someday. But based on what's happened so far=false.Originally posted by falcoThompson > Wolf = TrueBusting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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Not true...when TT wins a Super Bowl...we'll talk. But I agree that he is on his way to being better than Wolf. I believe TT will win a couple Super Bowls in the near future...but right now...Wolf >Thompson.Originally posted by falcoI respectfully disagree, but maybe its an unfair comparison, since things were done differently during Wolf's tenure.Originally posted by JoemailmanMaybe. Someday. But based on what's happened so far=false.Originally posted by falcoThompson > Wolf = True
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Just hitting on AR was so huge... forget the other positives. I think, we, as Packer Nation, completely underestimate this and take it for granted. Hopefully AR can take his next steps in the playoffs and then this will all become more obvious.
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Totally agree, although if A-Rod had been asked to play as a rookie I doubt he would have been an instant success.Originally posted by missionJust hitting on AR was so huge... forget the other positives. I think, we, as Packer Nation, completely underestimate this and take it for granted. Hopefully AR can take his next steps in the playoffs and then this will all become more obvious.
My favourite TT move is the Mathews pick. That was a grand slam home run.
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Hitting on Rodgers and also signing Woodson, who was the defensive MVP this year. I also think the Mike McCarthy signing is greatly underestimated. McCarthy wasn't on anyone's radar when Thompson picked him up, and I think he deserves more credit as a coach than most on here give.Originally posted by missionJust hitting on AR was so huge... forget the other positives. I think, we, as Packer Nation, completely underestimate this and take it for granted. Hopefully AR can take his next steps in the playoffs and then this will all become more obvious.
Thompson has clearly had some bad picks, but every GM does. I think Wolf was great, but Thompson is better.Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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Or, you could argue TT passed up Sean Peyton who is the reigning World Champion....Originally posted by falcoI also think the Mike McCarthy signing is greatly underestimated. McCarthy wasn't on anyone's radar when Thompson picked him up, and I think he deserves more credit as a coach than most on here give.
Thompson has clearly had some bad picks, but every GM does. I think Wolf was great, but Thompson is better.
Wolf had some terrible picks, too. That Jamaal Reynolds pick was on his shift.
Unless the Pack wins a SB, Wolf will always be considered the better, I think.
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Reggie White was/is as big as it gets and where ever be from an impact standpoint. There are some close seconds but the stars aligned before and after that. It was Jesus, it was fate, it was done.Originally posted by Tarlam!Or, you could argue TT passed up Sean Peyton who is the reigning World Champion....Originally posted by falcoI also think the Mike McCarthy signing is greatly underestimated. McCarthy wasn't on anyone's radar when Thompson picked him up, and I think he deserves more credit as a coach than most on here give.
Thompson has clearly had some bad picks, but every GM does. I think Wolf was great, but Thompson is better.
Wolf had some terrible picks, too. That Jamaal Reynolds pick was on his shift.
Unless the Pack wins a SB, Wolf will always be considered the better, I think.
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Originally posted by falcoThompson > Wolf = True
don't agree at all
win a title and then come back to make the argument
some will say Wolf won in a different era
All of the GM's were playing under the same rules as WolfTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by falcoI respectfully disagree, but maybe its an unfair comparison, since things were done differently during Wolf's tenure.Originally posted by JoemailmanMaybe. Someday. But based on what's happened so far=false.Originally posted by falcoThompson > Wolf = True
things were done differently in Wolf's era....by all of the GM's who were competing with Wolf...........just like now when TT is trying to bring us a champ...with a different set of rules....that all GM's have to abide byTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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His last year, yes. After failing to recover from an injury and the subsequent surgery.Originally posted by sharpe1027KGB couldn't play in the NFL anymore, period. He probably could have been near the minimum salary and he still would have been cut. Did any other team even bother to take a flyer on him at the Vet minimum? That's a bit different from cutting a guy that is a starter.Originally posted by pbmaxGrant's scenario is no different than KGB, except that KGB actually was less than mediocre. He will play unless he can be replaced by something just as good and cheaper barring injury. Harvey's scenario makes sense if his replacement lands on the roster this year. But that guy isn't here yet.
But in the 3 years prior to that, everyone had KGB getting his walking papers as his contract number kept going up and his production slackened. It was the same story we have seen every year since, just fill in the disappointing vet. This offseason it was AJ Hawk. There was one vet getting the same coverage each year since Thompson took over.
The problem lies in the misunderstanding. Each beat writer thinks Thompson will pay for value only. And they will eventually become convinced that Thompson has "changed". Just like the veteran leadership angle when Clifton and Tauscher got resigned. Suddenly they divined that Thompson learned from his past mistakes on leadership. Never stopping to think about the il-logic of applauding the same veteran leadership in 2010 that they blamed the 2008 failures.
But KGB, Hawk and others are examples where he will live with overpaying his own players. Either for continued development or lack of suitable replacements at a position. They also mistake Thompson letting Wahle, Rivera and Sharper walk as evidence he will not overpay, instead of evidence that he wanted the cap situation straightened out first.
It has never occurred to them that with a favorable cap and contracts that leave the Packers in control, he is willing to spend money to keep the band together.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I don't think its quite the same. Very few teams had the cap figured out like Wolf had. That left a lot of players available to choose from. It was like having the USFL fold every year for four years.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by falcoI respectfully disagree, but maybe its an unfair comparison, since things were done differently during Wolf's tenure.Originally posted by JoemailmanMaybe. Someday. But based on what's happened so far=false.Originally posted by falcoThompson > Wolf = True
things were done differently in Wolf's era....by all of the GM's who were competing with Wolf...........just like now when TT is trying to bring us a champ...with a different set of rules....that all GM's have to abide by
Thompson does not enjoy that advantage now. Half the team's in the league now employ former cap guys as GMs.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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