Jeff Janis: He Who Conquers

[sharpe1027]

What if the adjustment is that you play your CB 10 yards off the LOS and backpedal right away? And because you know the 9 route is likeliest, you bring that side's safety to the box to defend the run, slant or a WR screen? Does that help the offense or make it easier to read what you are doing by making one side much more simplistic?

If Janis is that limited, he might be unstoppable on one play, but make the QB and WRs jobs harder. Not even Favre and Sharpe could ride a one target offense to playoff success.

Could he do more? He might. Seemed possible when he made two big catches in his most extensive playing time. But when the coaching staff seems very resistant to make him a major contributor, I think it more likely there are too many things he cannot do. Think about the coaching staff you are worried about. They specialize in starting rookies. Cobb and Montgomery. Linsey and Bach.

6-1 doesn't seem like the time to try this. This offense is facing 2 deep coverage again and cannot operate. Putting a deep threat in hasn't broken that open for them in the past.

The alternative, however, was trotting out R. Rodgers every play. If Janis as limited as all that, he shouldn't be on the team, period. They had Abby and Janis ride the pine in favor of RR. I'm not saying they would have been saviors, but it was not like they would have been benching Jerry Rice to send them out there.

I understand the coaches get paid to do their job and they are smarter and better at it than I will ever be. They are still human, a little variation couldn't have hurt much. I mean even if you right, maybe Rodgers only throws for 60 yards instead of 77!

[Harlan Huckleby]

6-1 doesn't seem like the time to try this. This offense is facing 2 deep coverage again and cannot operate. Putting a deep threat in hasn't broken that open for them in the past.

You put up reason after reason to stay the course.

Honestly, I think the Pack would be in better shape today if they had lost to San Diego. That should have been treated as a bad loss - they needed several good breaks to pull-out a win. All we heard during bye was "6-0, baby!" Now it's "6-1. What, me worry?"

[pbmax]

You put up reason after reason to stay the course.

Honestly, I think the Pack would be in better shape today if they had lost to San Diego. That should have been treated as a bad loss - they needed several good breaks to pull-out a win. All we heard during bye was "6-0, baby!" Now it's "6-1. What, me worry?"

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On a scale of 1-10, how much should you be worried at 6-1 with this team?

[Harlan Huckleby]

On a scale of 1-10, how much should you be worried at 6-1 with this team?

I'm not worried because I don;t care that much if they go to Super Bowl. But I do want my weekly entertainment, damn it. I'd describe myself as frustrated. They are under-performing, or at least what they are doing on offense looks predictable and ineffective. Rodgers and Clement need to let their freak flag fly, man. Open it up.

Rodgers threw for 77 yards.

[Maxie the Taxi]

pb, I don't know enough about x's and o's to debate you on this. I'm basically just a fan with enough knowledge to be dangerous. But I agree with Harlan and Sharpe...at this point what do we have to lose? Besides, there are plenty of expert commentators who have asked the same questions and made the same speculations that we have, so...

On a scale of 1 to 10 I can't say, but I am worried about an offense that seems to struggle against good defenses and a defense that seems to give up tons of yardage against good QB's. I don't think this is the stuff on which we can rest our laurals.

And rand, are you going to believe me or your lying eyes!

[mraynrand]

And rand, are you going to believe me or your lying eyes!

My vision is perfect!

[Patler]

A few years ago, the Packers frequently used formations with 5 WRs. Using 4 was quite standard. When Adams was out, and this past week with Montgomery out, they don't even want to use 4 WRs. They keep R. Rodgers out there in spite of his frequent blocking catastrophies, suddenly frequent penalties, and insignificance as a receiving option. Seems to all point at a total lack of comfort in having either Janis or Abbrederis on the field.

Sure seems like you could "risk" a few plays, and take R. Rodgers out in favor of Janis or Abbrederis.

[sharpe1027]

On a scale of 1-10, how much should you be worried at 6-1 with this team?

On the scale of 1-10, I would say your worry level should be "Orange." Which might be interpreted as corresponding to about 3.1416, unless you normalize across multiple years, in which case your worry level should be N or perhaps R. Of course, if you live in the Southern Hemisphere, then your worry level should be 52.

[George Cumby]

But only if the water going down the toilet travels in an anti-clockwise direction whilst birds on a wire sing the Folsom Prison Blues in the key of A minor while a dozen Angels dance on the head of a pin.

[pbmax]

I am trying to point out that the team is 6-1 and had major trouble with 1 very good defensive squad on the road.

You have a lot to lose. You cannot pretend that the Packers offense has hit rock bottom after one week of putridity.

If you want to be reminded of what they might be, watch the Browns tomorrow night.

[sharpe1027]

I am trying to point out that the team is 6-1 and had major trouble with 1 very good defensive squad on the road.

You have a lot to lose. You cannot pretend that the Packers offense has hit rock bottom after one week of putridity.

If you want to be reminded of what they might be, watch the Browns tomorrow night.

Rock bottom? No. Some reason to question and have some worry? Certainly.

It's not just one week either. While this was their worst, they haven't exactly tore it up all year.

[pbmax]

Rock bottom? No. Some reason to question and have some worry? Certainly.

It's not just one week either. While this was their worst, they haven't exactly tore it up all year.

So you agree there is something to lose? Janis could make it worse. This is my point.

And I would bet its how the coaches feel.

[Harlan Huckleby]

So you agree there is something to lose? Janis could make it worse.

Any change can make things worse, always.

The problem of a lack of downfield threat has gotten worse over the season.

[mraynrand]

Any change can make things worse, always.

The problem of a lack of downfield threat has gotten worse over the season.

undoubtedly. Weren't Adams and Monty healthy to start the season?

[yetisnowman]

Sorry if this has already been addressed, but i speculate that Janis has major ball security issues that show themselves in practice. I remember Janis being in on the first offensive possession against San Diego. I believe the first play was a play action roll out and he was wide open, and A-rod hesitated to throw it to him because he knew he would face some contact after the catch. It even looked like the play was designed FOR Janis, and A-rod still didn't trust him Otherwise, it's a complete mystery. If Perillo and even Ripkowski can get some snaps he should too.