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  • Aaron Rodgers 2018 season set the record for lowest interception rate in a season at .3%

    The things Rodgers does, he does on purpose. It doesn’t happen by accident. The interception aversion is nice. The refusal to use parts of the field, not so nice. Now we need to slightly adjust his intentions to be win focused more than some of his strange aversions. Aaron’s gonna be OK.
    Last edited by RashanGary; 09-11-2019, 12:55 PM.
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    • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
      Aaron Rodgers 2018 season set the record for lowest interception rate in a season at .3%

      The things Rodgers does, he does on purpose. It doesn’t happen by accident. The interception aversion is nice. The refusal to use parts of the field, not so nice. Now we need to slightly adjust his intentions to be win focused more than some of his strange aversions. Aaron’s gonna be OK.
      What is intentional about not being able to throw a pass to the flat?
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        What is intentional about not being able to throw a pass to the flat?
        He threw a lot on the flat in practice this year. So it starts in practice. I think he’ll be ok.
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        • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          He threw a lot on the flat in practice this year. So it starts in practice. I think he’ll be ok.
          I hope so. But he hasn't been OK in the regularly scheduled offense since 2014.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            I hope so. But he hasn't been OK in the regularly scheduled offense since 2014.
            People with all22 saying he passed up a bunch of open short stuff again in favor of holding the ball. I’ll take another look. I have game pass so I’ll see if I can see that as well. AR just can’t get out of his own way with his holding the ball thing. It’s such a habit. He just loves waiting on that deep stuff.
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            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Its a fair point. Rodgers also suffers in comparison to himself. Its also a new offense that was not going well except for one drive in the second half.

              But some of these issues have lingered. It will be interesting to see what it looks like when they stop running the extended offense against great pass rushes.
              That pass he threw toward the end of the Bears game on second down when the Pack was trying to keep possession to run out the clock - the one to the wide receiver on the right, which is supposed to be a quick possession-type pass - it's the kind of thing that gives Tex nightmares, and almost resulted in a pick-six. Rodgers just cannot seem to make that throw.

              One completion he made was a poorly thrown ball to Tyrone Davis - Davis had to go to his knees to scoop it in, and he was pretty wide open. I wonder if Rodgers's inability or unwillingness to set his feet any more might have a role in all this.
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              • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                That pass he threw toward the end of the Bears game on second down when the Pack was trying to keep possession to run out the clock - the one to the wide receiver on the right, which is supposed to be a quick possession-type pass - it's the kind of thing that gives Tex nightmares, and almost resulted in a pick-six. Rodgers just cannot seem to make that throw.

                One completion he made was a poorly thrown ball to Tyrone Davis - Davis had to go to his knees to scoop it in, and he was pretty wide open. I wonder if Rodgers's inability or unwillingness to set his feet any more might have a role in all this.
                Teamcheese is right that judging against the Bears defense is tough and he had a messy pocket a lot of the time.

                And he he is still the QB who usually drops 25+ points on good Bears Defenses in the last three years. I also forgot to list that Pagano is a new DC who probably did some unscouted looks.

                Early in his career her had happy feet. Perhaps more success running will help. We'll see.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                  I guess you've missed the last like 4 seasons where his mechanics and accuracy have steadily gotten worse. Thursday was a continuation of last season and that season a continuation of the one before that.
                  yup

                  Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                  Aaron Rodgers 2018 season set the record for lowest interception rate in a season at .3%

                  The things Rodgers does, he does on purpose. It doesn’t happen by accident. The interception aversion is nice. The refusal to use parts of the field, not so nice. Now we need to slightly adjust his intentions to be win focused more than some of his strange aversions. Aaron’s gonna be OK.
                  also set a record for throw-aways. bear game was a continuation of 2018. it's early but i'm not encouraged by anything except the defense right now.

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                  • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                    yup


                    also set a record for throw-aways. bear game was a continuation of 2018. it's early but i'm not encouraged by anything except the defense right now.
                    I didn’t realize that. It’s interesting to me how he came out in the second half of the Bears game last year hobbled and was throwing dimes against good coverage right where only his guy had a chance. And then when he has a free play, he does the same, just puts a beautiful ball in tight coverage.

                    I’m not saying go Favre on us, but Brady has a way of knowing where and when tight coverage is ok. Rodgers could do those slants and crossers in tighter coverage and keep his interceptions down too. He could also throw a few more check downs. Interceptions would stay down and sacks and throw aways would go down. Also, defenses would have to honor more of the field so it would open up some of his favorite stuff too.
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                    • Brady to me is the Gold standard at QB. Helps that he’s so tall and can see over the line and throw over the line. But boy, he just runs crisp offense with 4-9 yard plays, few negatives, few penalties..... positive yardage over and over and over and over and then the chunk plays fall in his lap. AR works so damn hard for those chunk plays. Kinda sad that he’s so stubborn. Sad for him.
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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Teamcheese is right that judging against the Bears defense is tough and he had a messy pocket a lot of the time.

                        And he he is still the QB who usually drops 25+ points on good Bears Defenses in the last three years. I also forgot to list that Pagano is a new DC who probably did some unscouted looks.

                        Early in his career her had happy feet. Perhaps more success running will help. We'll see.
                        The Packers offense should have given the Bears D a ton of unscouted looks, but they handled everything, and the Packers offense handled nothing. Didn't help that the O-line looked like blocking concepts were something they'd never heard of.
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                        • Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                          The Packers offense should have given the Bears D a ton of unscouted looks, but they handled everything, and the Packers offense handled nothing. Didn't help that the O-line looked like blocking concepts were something they'd never heard of.
                          They had a GREAT year run blocking in 2017 with Lane Taylor and Jahri Evans. It was worse in 2018 without Evans, a revolving door at RG and Taylor being replaced by a pod person.

                          Last week looked a lot more like 2018.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • “My only ask is that we don’t do the wave when we’re on offense,” Rodgers said, via Matt Schneidman of TheAthletic.com.

                            Now we know the key to success for Rodgers this weekend.

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                            • Rodgers may have declined, but he still is clearly good enough to win an Owl with a good D. I think next years draft we should contemplate finding the heir apparent, 3 years on the bench sounds about right. Learn the fine points of M4s offense. Watch Rodgers. Then go from there. We do need a plan though. As much as I like Boyle as a backup, I'm not sure he is the future at QB...I'm pretty sure he isn't.
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                              • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                                “My only ask is that we don’t do the wave when we’re on offense,” Rodgers said, via Matt Schneidman of TheAthletic.com.

                                Now we know the key to success for Rodgers this weekend.
                                I was curious about this. Why would he not want fans to do the wave while the offense is out there? Is that really so eye-catching?
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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