Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[gbgary]

EXCELLENT! The recipe for a winning season.

riiiiiight. looks like it's going to be business as usual on O. greaaaat.

[Fritz]

QB has the ball. You wanna win or put tape up that pleases the coaches?

WR need to listen to the QB.

Coach needs to get the QB to listen to him.

If the NFL wanted it a different way, you just run a collegiate type offense.

Wait, I thought that's what we're doing now.

[pbmax]

Wait, I thought that's what we're doing now.

Sort of. They have adjusted to Ryan and presumably Rodgers. But if you have Goff, its college all the way.

[mraynrand]

this shit didn't just come out of nowhere last year

it was building up to that complete breakdown for many years

its been "seasons" of a-rod passing up wideopen short throws for first downs just to wait to see if a guy opens deep

its been "seasons" of him running away from his protection for no reason other then to allow the play to break down so guys can go deep

its been "seasons" of him destroying the gameplans by audibling out of called plays for the deep ball

last season, the national media just started picking up on what many packer fans have been denying for years and what the packer controlled reporters have been telling you doesn't even exist

people just finally saw that light that a few of us have been screaming about for years

So you blame Rodgers. And you blame Stubby, even though you blame Rodgers for going away from what Stubby called? That you think would have worked better? Were the gameplans good or bad? If good, then Stubby was good/right. If bad, then Rodgers is good/right for abandoning them, right? How does your angst-filled self logically navigate these tortuous contradictions and still blame them both?

[pbmax]

@jasonjwilde
Spoon: "Is having a QB who knows how to handle unscouted looks an advantage?"
LaFleur: "Absolutely. We’ve given him all the freedom. So if he sees something, he’s got the green light to do whatever he needs to do to get us into a good play. We’re not going to take that from him."

There is literally nothing inconsistent with this statement and the two play option he described when he started the job. Rodgers can change the play, he may very well be expected to change the play to the alternative one called.

[mraynrand]

EXCELLENT! The recipe for a winning season.

TexRogue™ offense

[gbgary]

@jasonjwilde
Spoon: "Is having a QB who knows how to handle unscouted looks an advantage?"
LaFleur: "Absolutely. We’ve given him all the freedom. So if he sees something, he’s got the green light to do whatever he needs to do to get us into a good play. We’re not going to take that from him."

There is literally nothing inconsistent with this statement and the two play option he described when he started the job. Rodgers can change the play, he may very well be expected to change the play to the alternative one called.

if rodgers will stick to that design. the all the freedom line suggests it goes beyond that. winks at adams (goes deep). "run down to the chevy and turn around." unforced scramble drill (ball ends up in the stands).

[call_me_ishmael]

We're gonna find out this season. The Packers will largely go as far as Rodgers can take them assuming players for the most part remain healthy. If he's just an 8-8 guy henceforth, woof, that contract is an albatross and a big mistake.

[texaspackerbacker]

TexRogue™ offense

Nothing "rogue" about it - just Goodness and Normalcy.

When you have a very mobile GOAT QB, and your O Line is kinda mediocre, you sure as hell don't "run first". You let your GOAT QB work his magic and throw in an occasional run for change of pace, in other words, use common sense.

And the thing I really hate seeing any team do that I want to win is quick passes - carelessly throwing into coverage in a lot of cases, getting interceptions way too often - any interception is too many. Thankfully, the Packers with Rodgers doesn't do that - past, present, and I assume, future. Even in the preseason with Boyle, and most of the time even with Kizer, they didn't put it up for grabs like other teams.

[Fritz]

So you blame Rodgers. And you blame Stubby, even though you blame Rodgers for going away from what Stubby called? That you think would have worked better? Were the gameplans good or bad? If good, then Stubby was good/right. If bad, then Rodgers is good/right for abandoning them, right? How does your angst-filled self logically navigate these tortuous contradictions and still blame them both?

You just gotta let Red be Red.

[mraynrand]

You just gotta let Red be Red.

true dat. Every once in a while I gotta throw a wrench in there though, just to see if he's paying attention!

[red]

So you blame Rodgers. And you blame Stubby, even though you blame Rodgers for going away from what Stubby called? That you think would have worked better? Were the gameplans good or bad? If good, then Stubby was good/right. If bad, then Rodgers is good/right for abandoning them, right? How does your angst-filled self logically navigate these tortuous contradictions and still blame them both?

i blame rodgers running whatever the hell he wants and having no rhythm on offense

i blame fat fuck for allowing that to happen. stubby had no balls, allowing a-rod to self destruct

they are both to blame. stubby mailed itin and gave up years ago, and just stayed around for the rub downs while the inmates ran the asylum

i would have hoped that we would have brought in a new coach to right the ship, but it seems like the new kid was just brought in to appease the inmates and to let them continue to do whatever they want

[pbmax]

Matt La Fleur has had enough questions about audibles!

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1168949283405672448

[RashanGary]

i would have hoped that we would have brought in a new coach to right the ship, but it seems like the new kid was just brought in to appease the inmates and to let them continue to do whatever they want

Honestly, this seems accurate to me. I posted a new thread that digs into this exact situation in great depth and with clear light.

[RashanGary]

Matt La Fleur has had enough questions about audibles!

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/stat...49283405672448

But it’s truly relevant

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