Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[mraynrand]

Which means it's all subjective crap from know nothing media pukes.

That or it was the refs.

[bobblehead]

In Week 1, only 33% of Aaron Rodgers' throws were deemed accurate.

That ranked worst of all 32 qualifying quarterbacks.

https://dairylandexpress.com/2019/09/10/green-bay-packers-demise-aaron-rodgers/

Seems like a good time and place for this.

ARod isn't the same as he once was. Not as mobile, not as a accurate. I can't guess if its temporary, but this article nails every point I would like to point out so read up. I used to say its impossible to blitz Rivers and ARod. Now its just impossible to blitz Rivers.

Last point. I did see one play later in the 3rd?? quarter when the bears literally had 7 men on the line and 2 just off the ball in the middle box. We ran for no gain. Now I pimp the run as much as anyone, but if ever there was a time for an audible that was it. Maybe just maybe the drone of "Rodgers free lances too much" affected him. When a team stacks up that bad you have to audible to a pass....and no it wasn't 3rd and inches or anything like that.

[yetisnowman]

Which means it's all subjective crap from know nothing media pukes.

I watched a ton a football Sunday and Monday. Aaron had one of the worst passing performances I observed all week. Luckily for the Packers Trubisky was one of the few who was worse. When you watch Aaron throw low, high, behind, in front of his WRs, how do reconcile it? If anything the media is what keeps propping him up as a super elite, god-like qb...whereas factual data supports it less and less every year.
Watch the straight up dimes guys like Watson, Wentz, Prescott, Brady, etc were throwing. Hitting guys in stride, perfect loft where his athletes can high point the ball. Deep balls that scored Tds instead of 40 yard gains because they were thrown correctly and accurately.
Hopefully Aaron can fix whatever's wrong with him. It doesn't seem to be getting better.

[Patler]

Since he was 18/30 that means he completed 8 inaccurate passes.

I can recall several, including the long one to MVS, that were not very accurate, but were caught.

[pbmax]

Most likely, I think several factors have come into play late in his career:

1. HIs speed is down. He gets caught from behind a lot when going horizontal to throw out of the pocket
2. His accuracy is down, but I wonder if that is a physical issue from the two clavicle breaks so he can overcompensate to get the ball deep, but has no touch anymore
3. His favorite throws have never been short, and those are worse now. Oddy, he has gotten somehow better at screens, which used to baffle him
4. His mechanics are doing him no favors. He did not used to need a platform, but he might now.
5. He doesn't trust his reads and wants to see the player open. Too much time with a struggling McCarthy offense or lack of trust in his aim? No idea. Maybe both.
6. Legs worry him. I suspect he doesn't want anymore injuries to his legs after finally getting his left knee squared away in 2014 and then injuring it again last year. Convinces him to throw without a plant.

Development of MVS and the involvement of Allison might help alleviate 5. But I don't have much hope this gets better. The offensive system will need to bear some of the load which would be OK if they can figure out how to reliably run outside zone.

I had though the physical issues would sort themselves out with an uneventful offseason. Doesn't seem to be the case.

[SudsMcBucky]

In Week 1, only 33% of Aaron Rodgers' throws were deemed accurate.

That ranked worst of all 32 qualifying quarterbacks.

Maybe we shoulda kept Kizer and cut Rodgers. Another Gutey mistake.

[mraynrand]

Last point. I did see one play later in the 3rd?? quarter when the bears literally had 7 men on the line and 2 just off the ball in the middle box. We ran for no gain. Now I pimp the run as much as anyone, but if ever there was a time for an audible that was it. Maybe just maybe the drone of "Rodgers free lances too much" affected him. When a team stacks up that bad you have to audible to a pass....and no it wasn't 3rd and inches or anything like that.

That look can be a 6-7 man rush, or just 3. Disguise is the key. Disguise by looking identical at the snap regardless of how many are sent. So that an audible to a pass might audible you into full coverage. Knowing tendencies of the defense probably helps, and Maybe an RPO gives you more time to see the defense declare?

The no-declare front, which the Steelers seemed to like until they crossed the Patriots, doesn't seem to be Pagano's style though. Beating man coverage might be the key. But you have to get the ball out before your protection breaks down. Can't look deep/wait for guys to come open. Have to throw people open, which Rodgers has done less and less of since he lost Jennings, then Nelson, and now Cobb.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...e-reasons-why/

https://www.chicitysports.com/forum/...defense.72763/

[Teamcheez1]

I'm glad everyone has been able to make a complete and thorough analysis of AR's physical well-being and mechanics after playing in his first real action in 8 months against possibly the best defense in the league in a brand new offense.

[mraynrand]

If you’re arguing that the Bears game was only a glimpse, was like a preseason tune up, and will not necessarily be representative of the entire season, I can only say it’s a reasonable position and I hope Rodgers continues to play better as the season continues.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Most likely, I think several factors have come into play late in his career:

1. HIs speed is down. He gets caught from behind a lot when going horizontal to throw out of the pocket
2. His accuracy is down, but I wonder if that is a physical issue from the two clavicle breaks so he can overcompensate to get the ball deep, but has no touch anymore
3. His favorite throws have never been short, and those are worse now. Oddy, he has gotten somehow better at screens, which used to baffle him
4. His mechanics are doing him no favors. He did not used to need a platform, but he might now.
5. He doesn't trust his reads and wants to see the player open. Too much time with a struggling McCarthy offense or lack of trust in his aim? No idea. Maybe both.
6. Legs worry him. I suspect he doesn't want anymore injuries to his legs after finally getting his left knee squared away in 2014 and then injuring it again last year. Convinces him to throw without a plant.

Development of MVS and the involvement of Allison might help alleviate 5. But I don't have much hope this gets better. The offensive system will need to bear some of the load which would be OK if they can figure out how to reliably run outside zone.

I had though the physical issues would sort themselves out with an uneventful offseason. Doesn't seem to be the case.

Or Rodgers' game appears off b/c he's throwing to wankers. None of the receivers on the team, save for Adams, would make the Jets 53. Allison would be cut by 31 other teams, and he's starting.

[call_me_ishmael]

Most likely, I think several factors have come into play late in his career:

4. His mechanics are doing him no favors. He did not used to need a platform, but he might now.
6. Legs worry him. I suspect he doesn't want anymore injuries to his legs after finally getting his left knee squared away in 2014 and then injuring it again last year. Convinces him to throw without a plant.

I had though the physical issues would sort themselves out with an uneventful offseason. Doesn't seem to be the case.

Good, thoughtful post.

It's too early to know for sure about his health this year in my opinion. That said, if #4 and #6 really are valid, then I don't think he should be playing QB in the NFL any longer. You know what you're getting into as a QB, and it's fair to choose to not get hit, I 1000% get it, but once you reach that stage where you're more interested in not getting hurt than throwing soundly, it's time to hang 'em up.

[Upnorth]

My biggest concern is his inaccurate mid range passes. A couple of times if he kept the ball a bit higher the wr could have gotten a ton of yac, mvs in particular. Unfortunately I'm worried it is not just rust. The Vikings have an elite secondary as well so at least he is being tested earlier and can't coast.

[Gotarace]

The one thing that I found concerning is Aaron missing backs and quick hitting routes bouncing the the ball off the field three yards before them...Isn't that the most basic and easiest route to hit....he surly didn't look anywhere near sharp in the opener.

[yetisnowman]

I'm glad everyone has been able to make a complete and thorough analysis of AR's physical well-being and mechanics after playing in his first real action in 8 months against possibly the best defense in the league in a brand new offense.

I guess you've missed the last like 4 seasons where his mechanics and accuracy have steadily gotten worse. Thursday was a continuation of last season and that season a continuation of the one before that.

[pbmax]

I'm glad everyone has been able to make a complete and thorough analysis of AR's physical well-being and mechanics after playing in his first real action in 8 months against possibly the best defense in the league in a brand new offense.

Its a fair point. Rodgers also suffers in comparison to himself. Its also a new offense that was not going well except for one drive in the second half.

But some of these issues have lingered. It will be interesting to see what it looks like when they stop running the extended offense against great pass rushes.