OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[Joemailman]

Mooch.

[MJZiggy]

Brett is pretty good with the off the field stuff, but you hear all about Brett's philanthropic ways. His own website states that his foundation has raised $3M over the last 10 years. I realize that he does more than give money, and I'm happy that he does what he can, but that really isn't out of the ordinary. For example, Chuck Woodson donated $2M to the children's hospital at the U of Michigan in one lump sum, and I'm sure he's done more--that we haven't heard about. You just don't hear that much about most players. I'm guessing many other players on the team donate a nice chunk of their paycheck.

The difference in your two examples is something I noticed after Katrina. The Favre Foundation RAISED $3 million in 10 years. Woodson DONATED $2 million. Not actually trying to rag on Favre here, but I remember after Katrina Favre being lauded for being generous when what he donated was the plane to get the Packer fan donations to Mississippi. He played in the softball tournament to raise money but does anyone know if he donated to it himself? He's donated time and appearances, given speeches, but does he donate to his own causes or just open his house to a family once a year and let the family contribute for the scholarship. Did Favre donate to the scholarship fund? I bet they could get a couple kids through school if he tossed $50K at it...

[MichiganPackerFan]

Brett is pretty good with the off the field stuff, but you hear all about Brett's philanthropic ways. His own website states that his foundation has raised $3M over the last 10 years. I realize that he does more than give money, and I'm happy that he does what he can, but that really isn't out of the ordinary. For example, Chuck Woodson donated $2M to the children's hospital at the U of Michigan in one lump sum, and I'm sure he's done more--that we haven't heard about. You just don't hear that much about most players. I'm guessing many other players on the team donate a nice chunk of their paycheck.

The difference in your two examples is something I noticed after Katrina. The Favre Foundation RAISED $3 million in 10 years. Woodson DONATED $2 million. Not actually trying to rag on Favre here, but I remember after Katrina Favre being lauded for being generous when what he donated was the plane to get the Packer fan donations to Mississippi. He played in the softball tournament to raise money but does anyone know if he donated to it himself? He's donated time and appearances, given speeches, but does he donate to his own causes or just open his house to a family once a year and let the family contribute for the scholarship. Did Favre donate to the scholarship fund? I bet they could get a couple kids through school if he tossed $50K at it...

I've been very skeptical of the same, not just Favre, but other athletes and celebrities as well. Time is great and nothing should diminish that, but are they really putting their money where their mouth is? Or taking credit for everyday people's contributions?

[Scott Campbell]

I hate Bert the person, but I don't think it's fair to judge his charity work.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I hate Bert the person, but I don't think it's fair to judge his charity work.

Agreed: that's why I stated time is important too. There is obvious value in coordinating and fundraising. But if someone is saying their foundation donated X amount of cash, and that cash was really collected from a list individuals, is that claim inappropriately taking credit for other peoples contributions? (and I am NOT even specifically singling out Favre, but the common situation)

[RashanGary]

Bert has always been a master of manipulation. He knows what people want to see and hear, and is a master at making you believe he is what he knows people admire.

Unfortunately Bert is a slimeball, liar and total phony.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think it's the unibrow that makes Bert seem untrustworthy

[RashanGary]

My wife calls be bert because of my eyebrows. I don't think they're that bad, but she likes to call me bert or Igan (from ghost busters).

As you can probably tell from the people I'm in close likeness to, I'm a real looker.

[RashanGary]

I'm a cross between


This Guy





and



This Guy





Yeah, I'm that good looking.

[Freak Out]

Still got the braces?

[RashanGary]

Nope. Glad to have those off.

[Freak Out]

Nope. Glad to have those off.

I bet......I know the technology involved has changed a little over the years but when I was wearing the fuckers in the 70s they were a nightmare.

[retailguy]

Nope. Glad to have those off.

I bet......I know the technology involved has changed a little over the years but when I was wearing the fuckers in the 70s they were a nightmare.

I suppose that was at the same time you were walking to the school both ways uphill in the snow. I guess in Alaska, that's technically possible too. :P

I had braces as an adult in the early 90's. It sucked then too.

[Freak Out]

Nope. Glad to have those off.

I bet......I know the technology involved has changed a little over the years but when I was wearing the fuckers in the 70s they were a nightmare.

I suppose that was at the same time you were walking to the school both ways uphill in the snow. I guess in Alaska, that's technically possible too. :P

I had braces as an adult in the early 90's. It sucked then too.

I alternated between dog mushing or skiing to school depending on my mood....that is until I bought one of these.

[Tarlam!]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?


P.S. I think it's time this thread got locked and a new Favre thread was started. I think these questions will be ignored by a large part of the forum, because of the squbbling in this thread.