OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[channtheman]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?


P.S. I think it's time this thread got locked and a new Favre thread was started. I think these questions will be ignored by a large part of the forum, because of the squbbling in this thread.

1. No. As much as I hate the man right now, his contributions to the Packers warrant retiring his number and not allowing any other player to wear it.

2. See above. 2A. I think immediately after he retires.

3. While I would hate to see this happen, I again think it goes back to the big picture. Regardless of what Favre does for any other team, the things he has done for the Packers would allow me to eventually get over what he is doing now. So maybe initially they would impact how I feel, but after a while I would be proud to talk about Favre as a Packer again.

4. I don't think Favre will. I think the fans will get over the past, but I think that what I have seen from Favre indicates that he has a huge hatred for TT and maybe McCarthy. As long as TT is GM I don't see him retiring as a Packer. Unless ole Bert plans to play for 10 more years and TT is no longer our GM, I can't see him retiring as a Packer. Who knows though, maybe he'll play that long and make it happen!

[Fritz]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?


P.S. I think it's time this thread got locked and a new Favre thread was started. I think these questions will be ignored by a large part of the forum, because of the squbbling in this thread.

1. No, they should not allow another player to wear #4.
2. Yes, they should retire #4. But not for a while. Not til things have cooled.
3. I can't stand the way Favre handled his departure and it would suck giant donkey b_lls if the Vikings, the hated Vikings, won a SB AND Favre was the QB.
4. I don't know if he'll retire as a Packer. I'm guessing that if/when he comes back this season and if he does well, he might start thinking of retiring as a Queen.

[Scott Campbell]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?


P.S. I think it's time this thread got locked and a new Favre thread was started. I think these questions will be ignored by a large part of the forum, because of the squbbling in this thread.

1. No, they should not allow another player to wear #4.
2. Yes, they should retire #4. But not for a while. Not til things have cooled.
3. I can't stand the way Favre handled his departure and it would suck giant donkey b_lls if the Vikings, the hated Vikings, won a SB AND Favre was the QB.
4. I don't know if he'll retire as a Packer. I'm guessing that if/when he comes back this season and if he does well, he might start thinking of retiring as a Queen.

1) No. I wouldn't saddle a current player with that burden.
2) No. They don't retire numbers anymore.
3) No. He's a either a successful traitor, or a failed choking traitor - but he's a traitor either way.
4) No. I don't think Favre would want to retire as a Packer, and I think the Packers don't need the distraction. And I think that honor should be reserved for those players who don't burn all their bridges on the way out of town.

[MichiganPackerFan]

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?
Absolutely not. What Favre accomplished as a Packer guaranteed him a spot in the HOF, YEARS before his departure Regardless of how his time in GB ended, the 16 years can't be undone

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?
Yes, wait five years to make sure he actual stays retired and it's not just a publicity stunt and also to allow the side to cool and packer nation to heal

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?
That opportunity passed. It was a close one, but thank god it didn't happen

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?
Probably not, he's way too bitter at the team. The only way this happens is if he waits a few years and then does it, but his retirement papers will have already been submitted by then, so who knows...

[Pugger]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?Why not? See #2

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time? Teams don't retire numbers anymore, technically. The Pack will probably put his jersey in a frame like they did with Reggie.

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view? No. He's a queen now so he isn't my favorite Packer anymore.

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple? He'll probably be remembered for all those years in GB but if he wants to retire a Heidi Hair that's his business.


P.S. I think it's time this thread got locked and a new Favre thread was started. I think these questions will be ignored by a large part of the forum, because of the squbbling in this thread.

[Bretsky]

[quote="Tarlam!"]I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

NO

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

YES, whever the player and team agree to do so. Don't really care when myself

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

NO; in fact it'd lead me to give him more credit in terms of his ability as a player

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? Yes

4A. What if he wins it all in Purple? Will not Matter

[Joemailman]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

No. His accomplishments are such that no player again should wear that number.

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

They should if Favre is interested in having a ceremony to retire his number. Not sure if that's the case. If so, the timing should largely be of his choosing.

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

No, but it might impact his.

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?

No. He will retire as a Viking.


P.S. I think it's time this thread got locked and a new Favre thread was started. I think these questions will be ignored by a large part of the forum, because of the squbbling in this thread.

[GrnBay007]

I have a couple of speculative questions for the pro/contra Favre-ites:

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

NO

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

YES, whever the player and team agree to do so. Don't really care when myself

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

NO; in fact it'd lead me to give him more credit in terms of his ability as a player

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? Yes

4A. What if he wins it all in Purple? Will not Matter

As Always.....the voice of reason! Agree with all B's answers.

For someone so logical I just don't get the gal on gal fascination! :P

And PS....would vote to keep the thread alive. Don't like all the hatred, but nice to have a place to check in on Favre news.

[mraynrand]

If Kapinos is the punter this fall, I think they should make him wear #4. When they do those half-time shows with the dog that catches the frisbees, I think they should have the dog wear #4. If Favre shows up in Lambeau for the hated Vikings again, they should run a montage of all his playoff killing INTs on the 'jumbotron' - over and over and over again.

[GrnBay007]

If Favre shows up in Lambeau for the hated Vikings again, they should run a montage of all his playoff killing INTs on the 'jumbotron' - over and over and over again.

I'm sure that would make some fans feel happy, but it would make the Packer organization look mean, spiteful and kinda weak. No way would a team with all that pride and history want to put themselves out there that way.

[Lurker64]

1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?

For the foreseeable future? No. If, two hundred years from now the Packers have had so many hall of fame quarterbacks that they're running out of small integers to assign to QBs, they can put it back in rotation if he's at the bottom of that heap.

2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?

They should retire the number, but not until they're good and ready. I think an appropriate time frame would be "the season that Favre goes into the hall of fame", but Brett should have to want to mend fences with the organization before it happens. So it might not happen for considerably longer than that. You actually have to have the guy show up to the ceremony where you retire his jersey (assuming he's still alive). I don't think the Packers should beg and scrape to get him to come to the ceremony where they honor him, let Brett reach out first.

3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?

If Favre wins a Lombardi trophy in purple, I'll never like him. They should still retire his number eventually and avoid "accidentally" assigning it to a punter, but I'll never like him.

4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?

No. Favre won't sign a one-day contract to retire with anybody. Even when he's out of the league for a year or more, we'll never really be sure he's retired (and neither will he). The only way Favre will retire and stay retired is if nobody wants him anymore. Five years from now, if a starter for a superbowl contender goes down, and somebody wants to make a call down to Hattiesberg, Favre would likely gladly hop off the tractor and play half a season or something like that. When he finally does retire for good, it won't be with a lot of ceremony, he'll just fade away out of the NFL's consciousness until his hall of fame induction.

[pbmax]

Brett will sign the one day contract, but then have second thoughts and ask for more time.

[packerbacker1234]

1. No, no packer on the current active roster should be wearing #4. Sure, it sucks that he is on another team and things ended the way they did, but I don't think it looks good for anyone involved to let that happen. Not for the player that has to wear the burden, not for the packers who will be viewed as saying #4 means nothing, and not for favre who wore it for 16 years in GB. No one should wear it. It is now and forever shall be lord favre's #.

2. Of course. As much distaste as we have for him now, we went to two superbowls and what, 5 nfc championships while he QB'd this team for 16 years in what was already a hall of fame career before he left. We were consistently a winning team when he was here, and no matter who or what we want to give credit to for that, he was a big reason that happened. His audible in the first quarter of the SB was a great pace setter for our only SB win since the 60's. We should really retire the # right away, as soon as it's official he is gone (aka, he actually misses games). I don't think there needs to be a healing time - people are always going to be torn on him when he is in purple, but as soon as he's not I think most will be forgiving.

3. At this point? No, it only solidifies his hall of fame career. What he was able to do last season, at age 40... no QB has ever done. He played like an MVP, putting up the best numbers of his career. The guy can play football, and if he wins a ring it doesn't affect what he did for us in GB. It just means he has the right team around him to get the job done. He's a great player and will always be remembered as such. Another ring wont change that.

4. When it's all said and done, I think everyone is going to man up and he'll get the one day contract to make it official.

4a. If this happens, I would say it would be doubtful, but it may bring up questions of if the VIKINGS should retire his number as well. After all, if they win it with favre... it's their first sb win ever. He would naturally be a big reason that happened. I know it's not a habit to do retiring of numbers often, but that would be a very big deal for that franchise.

I think 5 years down the road, all of us are going to appreciate favre for what he did, were just not gonna be able to do it while he has that purple jersey on.

[Upnorth]

These are some fun questions.
1. Should the Packers allow another player to wear #4?
No
2. Should the Packers still retire #4 when he hangs up the cleats? 2A. if yes. immediately or after a period of time?
They should stop retiring numbers.
3. Would Favre leading the hated Vikings to a Lombardi trophy impact your point of view?
I would hate to see the vikings win, but it would not change my view of Favre. This is a team sport, not just a superstar sport. QB's matter, but so does the OL, DL, etc.
4. Will Favre retire as a Packer? 4A. What if he wins it all in Purple?
I hope Favre retires a Packer. If the vikings did win with Favre, I don't care to speculate on what he would do. I don't think I would like the answer.

[mraynrand]

If Favre shows up in Lambeau for the hated Vikings again, they should run a montage of all his playoff killing INTs on the 'jumbotron' - over and over and over again.

I'm sure that would make some fans feel happy, but it would make the Packer organization look mean, spiteful and kinda weak. No way would a team with all that pride and history want to put themselves out there that way.

I'd just be happy if it helped the Packers win.