Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[mraynrand]

It DISGUSTS me to even see this rotten excuse for a thread resurrected again. Fuck the God damned ingrates who see Aaron Rodgers as anything less than the best in the NFL now and in fact, the greatest ever.

This is an effective opening salvo to bring people to your point of view.

[texaspackerbacker]

Gosh, do ya think I should take it back and go for more kindness and gentility? Naw, too much trouble to edit it hahahahahahaha.

[mraynrand]

I absolutely do not want Aaron Rodgers changing what he does.

Doesn't this depend on knowing what he does? What if he's changing called plays to the detriment of the offense's success?

[run pMc]

please tell me it's not starting already. this doesn't sound like someone who's buying-in, wants to be coached, or wants to make the Packers O less predictable...

Rodgers wants to target Adams more in 2019

I call BS on this. If Adams is truly "always open" he should always be getting the ball. I mean, shouldn't Rodgers be throwing to the open receiver? It's all exaggeration, and quite possibly some kind of psychological thing aimed at the other WRs to mimic Adams and do a better job of getting open. I don't think Adams gets > 160 targets this year.

[MadScientist]

I'm ok with Adams getting more touches if the reason is that he's the best receiver on the best offense in the league, and the defense gives them more opportunities.

[pbmax]

Adams could do better on TDs and yards. Not sure he is getting more than 111 catches.

I think Rodgers is just giving the best guy on his team his due.

[gbgary]

Adams could do better on TDs and yards. Not sure he is getting more than 111 catches.

I think Rodgers is just giving the best guy on his team his due.

i sure hope so. we all know he talks to the powers-that-be through the press though. i was cautiously optimistic he'd buy-in and play in the structure of the new O. that would mean a complete change of spots which might be impossible since he's played without structure for so long. if this is a not-so-subliminal message...it isn't good. i guess we'll see.

[texaspackerbacker]

Doesn't this depend on knowing what he does? What if he's changing called plays to the detriment of the offense's success?

You seriously think that happens anything other than extremely rarely? I sure as hell don't.

I say again, a smart coach - which hopefully LaFleur is - will build his offense around what Aaron Rodgers does and does better than anybody else in history, with maybe just a tad bit of fine tuning.

[pbmax]

You seriously think that happens anything other than extremely rarely? I sure as hell don't.

I say again, a smart coach - which hopefully LaFleur is - will build his offense around what Aaron Rodgers does and does better than anybody else in history, with maybe just a tad bit of fine tuning.

I tend to agree about how to align the offense. No reason to ask a great QB to be a different QB.

But in the previous version of this offense, Rodgers' forte has not been the 10 pass TD drive with 8 first downs. You get that out of La Fleur's offense (maybe its 5 runs and 5 passes) plus a developing long passing game with MVS, Brown or Allison, then you really have something. But sometimes, especially in the playoffs, you just need a first down in a bad way.

And yes, slug or not, Allison has the body type to be a version of the James Jones rebounding deep pass collector.

[mraynrand]

You seriously think that happens anything other than extremely rarely? I sure as hell don't.

I'm not sure. What did your investigation into it reveal?

[MadScientist]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...e-quarterback/
Interesting analysis of Rodgers' struggles the few years, but with hope for a future return to glory with a better scheme. Side note that better TE play would help as well.

[RashanGary]

I call BS on this. If Adams is truly "always open" he should always be getting the ball. I mean, shouldn't Rodgers be throwing to the open receiver? It's all exaggeration, and quite possibly some kind of psychological thing aimed at the other WRs to mimic Adams and do a better job of getting open. I don't think Adams gets > 160 targets this year.

Interesting!

[RashanGary]

Goff said he needs to have audible answers to avoid being smothered like he was by NE. Maybe Rodgers experience will blend with Lafleurs and strike that perfect balance! Or maybe it will be a conflict that blows up in their faces. But it could go a number of ways, some of which are very positive.

[Radagast]

Winning can be like magic, it can make things disappear. This sports reporter generated flap between HC LaFleur and Rodgers may have had a crumb of a truth to begin with, but like hungry Sharks that smell blood in the water, the media has grabbed a hold on it and refused to let go. This non-story will melt into earth like rain on a practice field. Sure LaFleur and Rodgers have to become accustomed to working together, but I've not seen either disrespect the other like the press would just love to report.

I pay little to no attention to talking TV Heads or to those looking to self promote with a sensational news "Splash". Instead I rely on those meat and potatoes guys reporting from the trenches of the practice fields. Using their more trusted stories and my own independent research, I make my own mind up about players, teams, coaches, and trades/deals.

[Joemailman]

Goff said he needs to have audible answers to avoid being smothered like he was by NE. Maybe Rodgers experience will blend with Lafleurs and strike that perfect balance! Or maybe it will be a conflict that blows up in their faces. But it could go a number of ways, some of which are very positive.

That's pretty much it. Arod and MLF will fight with each other or enhance each other. Rodgers kind of took things into his own hands last year because he had lost confidence in MM's offense. Not defending him, but he had his reasons. Earlier this year Hackett said that ultimately they want to get to a point where Rodgers will often be able to anticipate what the call is going to be. If they can all get on the same page, this offense can be better than what we've seen from the McVay/Shanahan/LaFleur coaching tree because Rodgers is a better QB than those guys had.