Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[mraynrand]

Jones had 6 targets in that game, at least two were sideline wheel routes, and of his two completions was on a wheel.

[RashanGary]

I anxiously await Rodgers post game digs at his doubters when we beat the forty whiners

[Smidgeon]

So for a while when Adams was out, Jones actually lined up as a WR at times. He hasn't since. Is it Rodgers/defensive scheme/playcalling? Probably a little of each. There's not a lot of absolutes.

Jones had 42 targets in the first 8 games. He had 26 in the second half of the season. He was used less in the passing game. The only game I recall where I would put that on Rodgers is the second Detoilet game where he tried to get Jones killed on the wheel route.

I'm pretty sure he has lined up as a WR. But, he hasn't been covered by a LB since (as far as I've noticed).

[RashanGary]

I'm pretty sure he has lined up as a WR. But, he hasn't been covered by a LB since (as far as I've noticed).

Is it possible the reason Jones has so many 100+ yard games as of late is due to teams going small to match him, and AR/Lafleur choosing the run game to attack said looks??

[Fritz]

Yours was a good post. Had a bit different perspective. Nice.

Still, as Fritz points out, it doesn’t matter. Rodgers is old, can’t run, will get pulverized Sunday, and the Packers will lose by 45 points.

Don't forget that he's no longer accurate - he's lost his touch on the deep throws.

Oh, and Adams is the only one he'll throw to. Maybe Graham.

He's arrogant, too, Rodgers. Which is fine when you're playing great, because then it's confidence, but when you get old and you suck, when you become Ryan Tannenhill, well, you're just arrogant.

The Packers ought to draft a QB to replace him, ASAP.

[Zool]

I'm pretty sure he has lined up as a WR. But, he hasn't been covered by a LB since (as far as I've noticed).

I would have to re-watch all the games to make sure. I don't recall him being targeted on any plays from the WR spot....is what I should have said.

[RashanGary]

When teams were matching Jones with a linebacker, AR basked in the passing glory. When they started matching Jones with DBs, AR swallowed the "do my boring 1/11th and get called a has been" pill

Gotta hand it to my unselfish nigga, he's doing what's right by the team and I can't wait for his post game digs at the haters and doubters

[run pMc]

Adams went down, Jones/Williams got more catches, then Adams came back as Jones started getting covered by a DB instead of a LB.
Kumerow et al. got a few more targets but not a lot.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2019.htm

Games w/o Adams (weeks 5-8)
DAL - Rodgers went 22/34, RBs caught 12/13 passes, TEs 6/6, Kumerow, G-Mo and MVS caught 4/12 (G-MO 6 targets)
DET - Rodgers: 24/39, RB: 8/12, TE: 4/7, WR: 11/17 (G-Mo 7 targets, D.Shep 2). This was probably the Lazard breakout game: 4/5 for 65 1TD. After this I think he definitely started cutting into G-Mo's targets.
OAK - Rodgers 25/31, RB: 11/12, TE: 4/4, WR: 11/14
KC - Rodgers 23/33, RB: 10/11, TE:4/6, WR: 9/16

Randomly picking the DEN, CHA & 2nd CHI game (Weeks 3, 8, & 15):
DEN- Rodgers: 17/29, RB: 4/4, TE: 2/6, WR: 11/17 (MVS 6/10, Adams 4/4, G-MO 1/3 - not very diverse)
CHA - Rodgers: 17/29, RB: 0/2, TE: 2/3, WR: 15/22 (Adams 7/10, Lazard 3/6)
CHI - Rodgers: 16/33, RB: 1/1, TE: 3/7, WR: 12/22

Some of the targets-vs-attempts don't match up, I assume those were throwaways (no receiver credited with a target).

Overall I think the hypothesis that the backs took many of Adams' targets is reasonable. GB only had one player with over 500 yards receiving, that was Adams. (Lazard had 477, Jones had 474). Far cry from the days of Jordy, JJ, Cobb, GJ, etc.

Rodgers still misses reads and misses some throws, but he's still good. I think he's dropped off but at 36 that's not a shock. Year 2 in the MLF scheme will help, as will more receiving talent. He's not getting any younger and he's going to have to adjust his game...for example, Brees can't throw a deep ball anywhere like he used to but he's still playing well, and talent-wise Rodgers > Brees.

[mraynrand]

Don't forget that he's no longer accurate - he's lost his touch on the deep throws.

Oh, and Adams is the only one he'll throw to. Maybe Graham.

He's arrogant, too, Rodgers. Which is fine when you're playing great, because then it's confidence, but when you get old and you suck, when you become Ryan Tannenhill, well, you're just arrogant.

The Packers ought to draft a QB to replace him, ASAP.

Rodgers is so awful they should just start Boyle. At least the defense will think there’s hope.

[Fritz]

Rodgers is so awful they should just start Boyle. At least the defense will think there’s hope.

If Mad goes to the game out there maybe he can shove a copy of these comments into Rodgers's hands before the game.

Just don't let him see anything Tex writes about him.

[pbmax]

So for a while when Adams was out, Jones actually lined up as a WR at times. He hasn't since. Is it Rodgers/defensive scheme/playcalling? Probably a little of each. There's not a lot of absolutes.

Jones had 42 targets in the first 8 games. He had 26 in the second half of the season. He was used less in the passing game. The only game I recall where I would put that on Rodgers is the second Detoilet game where he tried to get Jones killed on the wheel route.

They are still emptying him out of the backfield wide at times.

[beveaux1]

They are still emptying him out of the backfield wide at times.

I can only remember one target after he was sent wide since the KC game. I think Rodgers sailed the pass.

[texaspackerbacker]

If Mad goes to the game out there maybe he can shove a copy of these comments into Rodgers's hands before the game.

Just don't let him see anything Tex writes about him.

Don't you know? Rodgers' reads every word of my posts. He thanks me for my insight a couple of times a week.

[George Cumby]

He still has some good in him:

https://i.imgur.com/lTTwHYZ.gifv

[mraynrand]

He still has some good in him:

https://i.imgur.com/lTTwHYZ.gifv

I see the good in you Rodgers, let go of your hate.