Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[texaspackerbacker]

Good Post, obndy. All this idiocy and ingratitude from supposed fans is just sick. We Packer fans - and state of Wisconsin fans in general - are truly blessed, probably more than just about anybody else. Yet some in here whine and piss and moan about the greatness we have had provided to us. And hell yeah, the NFL is ALL about the Packers dominating!

[pbmax]

This proves what some of us have been seeing from the outside for years. Rogers is a stat whore diva, TT is an overrated idiot, and stubby was mediocre at best. Put the Kool-Aid down and you too will see this clearly.

Second or third best record in the league over the period.

But what proof is offered?

There is way too much credence given to every utterance and way too much forgetting what worked. If this is the Packers, other teams are vastly worse given their results. There is far less tension when there are no expectations.

[pbmax]

I forgot to mention the hysterical build up of Luke Getsy as someone who will finally challenge Rodgers bull. This is the coach that Rodgers went out of his way to praise when he was elevated to WR coach and then McCarthy allowed to leave. The idea that Murphy has finally straightened this out is perhaps the most laughable point of this article.

The coverage of this initially was that it was a sop to Rodgers given his new head coach and OC were new to him.

Its far more likely Getsy was a known commodity with Gute when LaFleur began running out of candidates.

[Fritz]

And Skylar said that Brittney liked Tanner... meanwhile Brice told Ashley that Coach Dooley fondled his whatsit, and that he liked it!! Well of course, Ashley told Brice that if he liked it so much, he could just plan on spending spring break with coach Dooley then!!!

Tune in next week to see what color skirts the PackerRats gossip club will be wearing!!

Brittney does not like Tanner; she likes Coach Dooley. That's why Brice said that shit about Coach, because he actually likes Brittney (not Ashley) and he wanted her to think Coach D. was into guys.

[mraynrand]

So...I'm old, maybe even senile, but I really give zero fucks. As a fan, I care most about entertainment, whether they win super bowl or not. So no matter who screwed who, or when, I want to watch a game and be entertained. Many good memories of the Favre years, and Rodgers years, but lately...crickets. So, I really don't care what happened in the past, I just eagerly wait for the Packers to get their head out of their ass and start dominating again. Isn't that what today's NFL is about??

Nah, the NFL is extreme socialism - try to even everything out so you get as many competitive games as possible, even if the overall quality sucks.

[Deputy Nutz]

I would love to agree with this article about every thing said about Aaron Rodgers, but this was a smut article written with a bunch of ridiculous sources that refused to be named. Jennings was the only reasonable source of the former players named. Rodgers has some personalities faults and is a narcissist, and I have always questioned his leadership qualities, but he didn't purposely tank this past season. I just wish he would be a better resource for the younger guys and not be so short sided with the other guys trying to develop into quality football players.

[mraynrand]

Good Post, obndy. All this idiocy and ingratitude from supposed fans is just sick.

I don't understand how dissecting what went wrong qualifies as 'ingratitude' Maybe a waste of time and gossip, but ingratitude? nah.

[Fritz]

I think Nutz has really gotten it right. Yes, we know Rodgers has faults, but geez, I do wish he were a bit more patient with the young receivers. I think at times he stunts their growth.

[call_me_ishmael]

I would love to agree with this article about every thing said about Aaron Rodgers, but this was a smut article written with a bunch of ridiculous sources that refused to be named. Jennings was the only reasonable source of the former players named. Rodgers has some personalities faults and is a narcissist, and I have always questioned his leadership qualities, but he didn't purposely tank this past season. I just wish he would be a better resource for the younger guys and not be so short sided with the other guys trying to develop into quality football players.

I mean, it's not like Elliot Wolf can go on record with his quotes. That's tampering I think. I get why most of the sources are anonymous. I think most of them are credible, reasonable, tough-but-fair people outside of Finley (who's a moron).

I think Philbin is the coach oft quoted, and he doesn't strike me as a sour grapes kind of guy. This was an incredibly well done and well-sourced article.

And call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think Murphy and Gooter were both interviewed for this. The "Don't be the problem" is a clear message being sent. If you're sick of someone being a diva and you want to get rid of them if they don't change their way, what better way to do that to a fan favorite then to plant the seeds now?

[ThunderDan]

And call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think Murphy and Gooter were both interviewed for this. The "Don't be the problem" is a clear message being sent. If you're sick of someone being a diva and you want to get rid of them if they don't change their way, what better way to do that to a fan favorite then to plant the seeds now?

The clear message isn't to extend him and then "send a clear message". That is half-assed backwards.

[texaspackerbacker]

Nah, the NFL is extreme socialism - try to even everything out so you get as many competitive games as possible, even if the overall quality sucks.

That may be their damn goal, but cream comes to the top. The world is just better with the Packers and Wisconsin teams in general where they belong - on top looking down at all the losers.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't understand how dissecting what went wrong qualifies as 'ingratitude' Maybe a waste of time and gossip, but ingratitude? nah.

Ingratitude = posting negative shit about Aaron Rodgers - and Favre before him. THEY - not coaches, not GMs, not supporting cast of players - are the reason We the Packer Fans have been provided with more than two decades of quality football. Anybody not appreciating that can go be a damned Lions or Bears or Vikings fan.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think Nutz has really gotten it right. Yes, we know Rodgers has faults, but geez, I do wish he were a bit more patient with the young receivers. I think at times he stunts their growth.

It seems a helluva lot more likely that was the fault of the coaches. Hopefully we see a difference now with the new regime.

[call_me_ishmael]

The clear message isn't to extend him and then "send a clear message". That is half-assed backwards.

I'll give you that's where the thought process breaks down a bit. Unrelated, but I am not a fan of extending him personally. Have been saying it for over a year.

[mraynrand]

Ingratitude = posting negative shit about Aaron Rodgers - and Favre before him.

incorrect