Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[red]

I think it’s safe to say he’s no longer elite

We’re not gonna win games anymore just because he’s our QB

[MadtownPacker]

Oh shit Niners about to lose after spot review!

[George Cumby]

I think it’s safe to say he’s no longer elite

We’re not gonna win games anymore just because he’s our QB

So my question is: is he aware enough to put his ego aside and be a game manager? IDK. I have my doubts.

[Freak Out]

So my question is: is he aware enough to put his ego aside and be a game manager? IDK. I have my doubts.

One would hope so. His legacy is on the line here. They can win with Jones and Williams running the ball and Arod managing the field.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Never with Rodgers. That was during the Favre years. Early in Rodgers career as a starter, one of the writers did an interview with MM and asked what changed going from Favre to Rodgers as his starting QB. At that time he said the basics of the offense had not changed, but as a play caller he had to be mindful of what throws his QBs preferred and were best at. The example he gave was that Favre's favorite was slants, and he was very good at it. He said Rodgers much preferred and was best at outside, sideline throws. MM said his play calling changed to reflect that different QBs are better at different throws.

I have thought about that comment ever since, and have mentioned it here and in conversations when fans ask what happened to the slant. Basically, Rodgers didn't like throwing it.

Was there ever a better WR than Nelson with those sideline catches? He had amazing body control and was a perfect fit for Rodgers. Driver and Jennings were also very good on the borders as well. This would definately explain why Finley didn't thrive here like he should have. He was a middle of the field threat, but not so much on the sideline. Rodgers just couldn't (or wouldn't) get him the ball where he was best at.

[pbmax]

PB said he was confused due to running the ball.

This is close to the truth.

[pbmax]

He can be elite again but he needs talent at WR that can do what he needs. It’s no longer vice versa. Good point on Finley though they sent a lot of balls his way both pre and post injury. Finley was another guy that rarely won contested balls.

The best illustration in this game was Marcedes catch on a flat route that seemed like it was going for a first. He had a blocker in front but got stopped cold anyway. Never got up a head of steam.

Should have been a first. If they had more of that, offense looks a lot different.

[smuggler]

I mean, I think it's safe to say that the passing game is not near what it has been in the past. But, of all the parts of the passing game that you might address/fix, QB is probably at the bottom of the list.

[Zool]

I mean, I think it's safe to say that the passing game is not near what it has been in the past. But, of all the parts of the passing game that you might address/fix, QB is probably at the bottom of the list.

If he could adapt, he would make the shitty receivers better.

[pbmax]

If he could adapt, he would make the shitty receivers better.

This is where I think GBGary proved correct (at least partially). He is not too eager to make changes to his passing game.

I don't think he cares if they run more, especially since its been effective.

But its going to take some new receivers to change up the passing game.

[yetisnowman]

It's weird with Aaron. By my count he's had a couple great games, couple good, and the rest mediocre-bad by his standards. Yet it seems impossible to imagine any other starting QBs in the NFL being 11-3 with this squad. If GB had an "average" guy, like some metrics show Rodgers to be I see 3-5 wins. Say Rivers, Stafford, Carr, Allen(s), etc. Maybe I'm delusional but that's how it feels.

[call_me_ishmael]

It's weird with Aaron. By my count he's had a couple great games, couple good, and the rest mediocre-bad by his standards. Yet it seems impossible to imagine any other starting QBs in the NFL being 11-3 with this squad. If GB had an "average" guy, like some metrics show Rodgers to be I see 3-5 wins. Say Rivers, Stafford, Carr, Allen(s), etc. Maybe I'm delusional but that's how it feels.

I tend to agree.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I tend to agree.

I don't agree. Dude has become a prima donna. Always seems to try to blame other players. We may or may not advance in the playoffs (football is a strange game), but I STRONGLY recommend they start looking at Rodgers replacement.

[PA Pack Fan]

I don't agree. Dude has become a prima donna. Always seems to try to blame other players. We may or may not advance in the playoffs (football is a strange game), but I STRONGLY recommend they start looking at Rodgers replacement.

Did you see him giving Tonyan an earful when he threw it at his feet instead of running it himself upfield 5 yards for a 1st down?

[pbmax]

Did you see him giving Tonyan an earful when he threw it at his feet instead of running it himself upfield 5 yards for a 1st down?

Yep. I think he wanted that route bent away from coverage to get him an angle to throw now that h was out of the pocket.

OBNDY, I agree they should be drafting for his replacement. Should have started 2 years ago, but hindsight is 20/20.