Is Aaron Rodgers even good anymore?

[mraynrand]

Answers to questions from Week 1 last year:

Wilde And Tausch @WildeAndTausch
"I had a tibial plateau fracture and obviously an MCL sprain..."
- @AaronRodgers12 on his Week 1 injury last season. #Packers

Aaron Rodgers says he got a series of shots in his knee as opposed to doing surgery after consulting with team doctor Pat McKenzie. Rodgers says he had a tibial plateau fracture in addition to an MCL sprain. #Packers


And from Week 17

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
Aaron Rodgers said the concussion in Week 17 was scary because he couldn't see, he lost vision. "It was the first time in my career that I've taken myself out of a game." Rodgers said his peripheral vision was drastically reduced. #Packers

And again, there was no reason to have him play week 17. Astonishingly stupid.

[mraynrand]

The article should be recognized for what it is, Rodgers is not wrong to call it a smear job, but at the same time did he grant an interview for the original article? At the end of the day the Packers are going to being playing football in September with Aaron Rodgers at QB. The team will go 8-8 under a new coach and hopefully the train can get on the right track.

News flash, Rodgers isn't perfect on the field or off the field, he is just trying to win games as the QB for the Green Bay Packers. He is no brain surgeon or space biologist, just like McCarthy isn't a cognitively disabled. Rodgers doesn't have to be a great person off the field, he just needs to be a good teammate and a great QB for the Green Bay Packers.

Good post, but I'd put a +/- 2 games around that 8-8. Could see as many as 10 and as few as 6 wins, APRH.

[run pMc]

A tibial plateau fracture is no joke. I would think it impacted his accuracy. I don't think that explains (or excuses) everything, but it must have contributed.

https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/features/tibial-plateau-fractures#1

Part of me would like to see a stronger run game and more in rhythm, in the pocket throws from Rodgers. The out of the pocket, "just get open" playground style of passing from Rodgers makes great highlights, but it's going to get him hurt more and more, and it's IMO producing diminishing returns.

The other part of me pessimistically thinks LaFleur will be over his head and unable to rein Rodgers in.

[Fritz]

"Part of me would like to see a stronger run game and more in rhythm, in the pocket throws from Rodgers. The out of the pocket, "just get open" playground style of passing from Rodgers makes great highlights, but it's going to get him hurt more and more, and it's IMO producing diminishing returns."

I don't know if this observation would hold up under statistical analysis, but my impression is that some of Rodgers's best games came when he was hobbled and unable to scramble. The Chicago early-season game last year, the playoff game against Seattle...those two come to mind. There may be others.

[pbmax]

I don't know if this observation would hold up under statistical analysis, but my impression is that some of Rodgers's best games came when he was hobbled and unable to scramble. The Chicago early-season game last year, the playoff game against Seattle...those two come to mind. There may be others.

I think at this point there is little doubt that Rodgers loves touchdown to check down as much as McCarthy ever did. He was not changing the play to slant/flat.

Physical harm is one way to stop him. Let's hope LaFleur has another.

[pbmax]

The Packer Ranter @PackerRanter
Greg Jennings only plays on a broken leg in a video game. Aaron Rodgers does it in real life.

[gbgary]

A tibial plateau fracture is no joke. I would think it impacted his accuracy. I don't think that explains (or excuses) everything, but it must have contributed.

https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/features/tibial-plateau-fractures#1

Part of me would like to see a stronger run game and more in rhythm, in the pocket throws from Rodgers. The out of the pocket, "just get open" playground style of passing from Rodgers makes great highlights, but it's going to get him hurt more and more, and it's IMO producing diminishing returns.

The other part of me pessimistically thinks LaFleur will be over his head and unable to rein Rodgers in.

yeah, googled it when i first heard it. some of the x-rays look terrible, others you can't see a thing. his must have been one of the latter. was listening to Green Bay/Milwaukee local radio today and there's speculation that the team doctor (mckenzie) wouldn't have let rodgers play with a broken leg. hmmm

[pbmax]

yeah, googled it when i first heard it. some of the x-rays look terrible, others you can't see a thing. his must have been one of the latter. was listening to Green Bay/Milwaukee local radio today and there's speculation that the team doctor (mckenzie) wouldn't have let rodgers play with a broken leg. hmmm

The problem is with the phrase broken leg. Jack Youngblood played with a broken leg too, but I think it was later confirmed a fracture as well.

Not saying a fracture is painless or without risk, but broken leg makes it sound like one of the two bones has been split in half, but the reality is far less egregious. Saying broken leg just makes everything else dumber.

[Joemailman]

yeah, googled it when i first heard it. some of the x-rays look terrible, others you can't see a thing. his must have been one of the latter. was listening to Green Bay/Milwaukee local radio today and there's speculation that the team doctor (mckenzie) wouldn't have let rodgers play with a broken leg. hmmm

Late in 2017, yhey let him play with a broken collarbone that they knew wäs not fully healed.

[mraynrand]

yeah, googled it when i first heard it. some of the x-rays look terrible, others you can't see a thing. his must have been one of the latter. was listening to Green Bay/Milwaukee local radio today and there's speculation that the team doctor (mckenzie) wouldn't have let rodgers play with a broken leg. hmmm

yep, most of these are just bone bruises. The speculation is just that. without seeing the actual scans - x-rays and MRIs - there's nothing to be learned from this.

[pbmax]

yep, most of these are just bone bruises. The speculation is just that. without seeing the actual scans - x-rays and MRIs - there's nothing to be learned from this.

We do know more than we did. It was 2 injuries and we have the names. Anyone know what the recovery range time is for each?

[mraynrand]

nm

[mraynrand]

We do know more than we did. It was 2 injuries and we have the names. Anyone know what the recovery range time is for each?

The tibial plateau could be anything. Most likely a bruise so it’s long healed. Even a fracture would be healed by now unless something funny is going on.

I’m more concerned about the totally unnecessary concussion in week 17.

[call_me_ishmael]

Late in 2017, yhey let him play with a broken collarbone that they knew wäs not fully healed.

He was medically cleared, and it was "healed", just maybe not 100%. Is a broken collarbone ever truly 100% again?

[Joemailman]

He was medically cleared, and it was "healed", just maybe not 100%. Is a broken collarbone ever truly 100% again?

They made a calculated gamble he could play without reinjuring the collarbone. But the first time he got sacked, when he returned to the sideline the whole medical crew surrounded him to see if he was okay. After the Packers lost and were eliminated from the playoffs, they put Rodgers back on IR. He was cleared to play, but I'm not sure he should have been. I'm not sure about 2018 either.