OFFICIAL BRETT THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[MOBB DEEP]

is VY done in tenn? collins is their future qb?

[Freak Out]

#4 just worked TNs D over.

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#4 just worked TNs D over.

i mean OVER

6-6, 6 diffrent wr's, td pass to jones

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kris BEAST jenkins

[Freak Out]

#4 in a 3 point stance. :lol:

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#4 gets in 3-point stance out wide in wild cat form lol

[denverYooper]

Man, I wish that game was on here. I'm stuck watching the little graphics on nfl.com unless I go to the bar...

[Freak Out]

Man, I wish that game was on here. I'm stuck watching the little graphics on nfl.com unless I go to the bar...

In Anchorage we have NY Jets/TT and Philly/Balt.

[denverYooper]

Man, I wish that game was on here. I'm stuck watching the little graphics on nfl.com unless I go to the bar...

In Anchorage we have NY Jets/TT and Philly/Balt.

We've got SF/Dal. They don't show another AFC game when the Broncos have a Sunday game.

[Freak Out]

Man, I wish that game was on here. I'm stuck watching the little graphics on nfl.com unless I go to the bar...

In Anchorage we have NY Jets/TT and Philly/Balt.

We've got SF/Dal. They don't show another AFC game when the Broncos have a Sunday game.

That's criminal.

[GrnBay007]

Can't believe the game is on here today...woohoo!!


Just started watching.

A guy came to give me an estimate on trimming a tree for me. Couldn't believe it, called this morning expecting to just leave a message on his machine but ended up talking to him and he came right over to give me an estimate. Talk about service!

[MOBB DEEP]

Can't believe the game is on here today...woohoo!!


Just started watching.

A guy came to give me an estimate on trimming a tree for me. Couldn't believe it, called this morning expecting to just leave a message on his machine but ended up talking to him and he came right over to give me an estimate. Talk about service!

the economy..loot needed

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killer keller is all-rookie first team

[GrnBay007]

Can't believe the game is on here today...woohoo!!


Just started watching.

A guy came to give me an estimate on trimming a tree for me. Couldn't believe it, called this morning expecting to just leave a message on his machine but ended up talking to him and he came right over to give me an estimate. Talk about service!

the economy..loot needed

True!
I'm just excited. One of the few times I've hired something done and didn't wonder if I was getting ripped off...lol

[GrnBay007]

Jettttts getting ready to score!! :D

[MOBB DEEP]

jets are CLEARLY out-playn titans

[GrnBay007]

Interference :lol:

[GrnBay007]

Wonder if the Bears wish they would have kept Jones

[denverYooper]

Man, I wish that game was on here. I'm stuck watching the little graphics on nfl.com unless I go to the bar...

In Anchorage we have NY Jets/TT and Philly/Balt.

We've got SF/Dal. They don't show another AFC game when the Broncos have a Sunday game.

That's criminal.

Yup.

[GrnBay007]

FG 10-0 Jets!

[denverYooper]

killer keller is all-rookie first team

Favre seems to like him.

[MOBB DEEP]

favre killn 'em...

10-0

4 mins left in half

[GrnBay007]

Jets need to hold them to a FG before half

[GrnBay007]

10-3

[GrnBay007]

Will we see some "magic" with 50 sec. left? :D

[MOBB DEEP]

amazn the bretts are leadn the nfl in possessions of 5 mins or more

brett managing quite well (not going for broke!)

good throw away brett

[Partial]

Watching Bretty and the Jets, you see what the Packers are missing offensively.

[MOBB DEEP]

13-3 jets

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Watching Bretty and the Jets, you see what the Packers are missing offensively.

bubba franks?

[MOBB DEEP]

frickn great d. chris johnson fumble. GREAT field pos for bf

reviewing fumble

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titans lose time out :P

[Freak Out]

Watching Bretty and the Jets, you see what the Packers are missing offensively.

bubba franks?

Ha ha...... :bump:

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bretts puttn on clinic AGAIN...

time of possession almost 3-1 LOL

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20-3 ny bretts

brett 2nd td pass (A LASER)

3 mins left in the 3rd

[imscott72]

God I miss Brett Favre..

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largest deficit of the season for the mighty titans.....

[Freak Out]

20-3 ny bretts

brett 2nd td pass (A LASER)

3 mins left in the 3rd

No reason to stretch it bro....that was no laser but a damn fine throw in traffic. :)

Titans are missing their D anchor. Jets line dominating.

[packinpatland]

That had a little 'magic' in it! :lol:

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That had a little 'magic' in it! :lol:

he he

[MOBB DEEP]

scrap the prevent-like D mangini. make them use time to score

[GrnBay007]

God I miss Brett Favre..

Me too!!!!

[Bretsky]

God I miss Brett Favre..


Me too; he made a couple passed that by game manager mentality should not have been made. But one of them was a TD

Great game

And if they win none of the detractors can say...........BUT the Jets didn't beat anybody.......yadayadayada

[MOBB DEEP]

RUN DAT BALL on the mighty titans

its a shame the jets schedule is SO weak and all their wins have been against scrubs (e.g., lowly cardinals)

[MOBB DEEP]

WHAT!!??

[Bretsky]

J.E.T.S. JETS JETS JETS

[imscott72]

Jets really good or Titans overrated??

[MOBB DEEP]

God I miss Brett Favre..


Me too; he made a couple passed that by game manager mentality should not have been made. But one of them was a TD

Great game

And if they win none of the detractors can say...........BUT the Jets didn't beat anybody.......yadayadayada

me four

[GrnBay007]

Jets are definitely getting hot at the right time

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Jets really good or Titans overrated??

dont start that

ALL grown men out there every sunday

[Bretsky]

Jets really good or Titans overrated??


Titans are overrated

But Favre is playing like he can play; he looks more in command of the system

If he is in command of the system, they are legit IMO

[Freak Out]

Jets are dominating both sides of the ball now. Wow.

[GrnBay007]

I missed the whole 3rd quarter finishing up my homemade chicken noodle soup. :x

[MOBB DEEP]

I missed the whole 3rd quarter finishing up my homemade chicken noodle soup. :x

where's ur priorities woman

[GrnBay007]

I missed the whole 3rd quarter finishing up my homemade chicken noodle soup. :x

where's ur priorities woman

I've had a bad cold since Thur. and nobody else would make it for me. :(

[imscott72]

I missed the whole 3rd quarter finishing up my homemade chicken noodle soup. :x

Oh damn that sounds good.. :D

[GrnBay007]

I missed the whole 3rd quarter finishing up my homemade chicken noodle soup. :x

Oh damn that sounds good.. :D

I think it is, but I can't really taste anything. :P

[Freak Out]

Backbreaker.

[MOBB DEEP]

running against the MIGHTY titans???

two statemnet games in a row at most important time of season

200 yard rushing!

BOO YAH

[MOBB DEEP]

Backbreaker.

did u see zappa on pbs last nite? thought about u

[GrnBay007]

The crowd is still pretty loud considering the score and the time remaining.

[Freak Out]

Backbreaker.

did u see zappa on pbs last nite? thought about u

What! The Dweez or Frank? Noo..........!!!

[GrnBay007]

lol @ another flag

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Backbreaker.

did u see zappa on pbs last nite? thought about u

What! The Dweez or Frank? Noo..........!!!

didnt watch it but i believe they were ALL performing

[imscott72]

Those refs better have military escorts when they leave today.. :shock:

[MOBB DEEP]

jets are CLEARLY out-playn titans

from start to finish...

[Freak Out]

Backbreaker.

did u see zappa on pbs last nite? thought about u

What! The Dweez or Frank? Noo..........!!!

didnt watch it but i believe they were ALL performing

I know that Dweez was doing the Zappa plays Zappa stuff on PBS but I thought it was coming in December. I'll go find it.....

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34-13


LMAO :D :D :D :D :D :D 8-)

[denverYooper]

lol @ another flag

Jeebus, the 'tacks don't want to give themselves any chance today. Everytime I click over there, Tenn's racking up another PI call.

[GrnBay007]

TD

TD

TD!!

[MOBB DEEP]

cant wait to see power rankings

possible 1st round bye for brett JUST LIKE LAST YEAR


LETS GOOOOOOO........!!!!!!!

[Partial]

Now that Brett is comfortable, he is playing FAR better than Aaron is this season. Man, its not even close right now. Sad, we probably would have one loss with Favre and likely be in the drivers seat for the playoffs. Instead, we are in 3rd place in the division (for today, anyway).

[Rastak]

Now that Brett is comfortable, he is playing FAR better than Aaron is this season. Man, its not even close right now. Sad, we probably would have one loss with Favre and likely be in the drivers seat for the playoffs. Instead, we are in 3rd place in the division (for today, anyway).


With all due respect, you can't know that.

Dude is playing great though for sure.

[Partial]

Now that Brett is comfortable, he is playing FAR better than Aaron is this season. Man, its not even close right now. Sad, we probably would have one loss with Favre and likely be in the drivers seat for the playoffs. Instead, we are in 3rd place in the division (for today, anyway).


With all due respect, you can't know that.

Dude is playing great though for sure.

That's true that its impossible to 100% accurately predict the record, thats what I think.

But, anyone with a pair of eyes can see the effect that Favre has on an offense. The Jets are running all the short passes we ran last year with great success. We are limited to but a few routes, and never use the middle of the field anymore!!

[digitaldean]

But, anyone with a pair of eyes can see the effect that Favre has on an offense. The Jets are running all the short passes we ran last year with great success. We are limited to but a few routes, and never use the middle of the field anymore!!

I have to admit Favre does have an aura about him. It also helps when you have 2 FA pickups and 2 1st round picks in that line that are playing very well.

The Jets D played lights out today. They disrupted Collins and shut down the run for the most part. The one thing that Tenn. did today they didn't do vs. the Packers was turn the ball over. That Johnson fumble in Tenn. territory was a backbreaker.

Kudos to the Jets. They thoroughly outplayed Tenn. today. #4 played very well. They had a very balanced attack in run and short passes.

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bretts smiling from ear to ear in presser on NFLN

[RashanGary]

Man, that was a good game by Brett. It looks like they did a self scout and broke some tendencies because Tennessee was really off balance. It'sl ike Tenn was looking run and got pass and then looking pass and got screen for the first 2 quarters. Musta been something in the formation that had Tennesee guessing wrong every time. They also took advantage of the 3rd/4th string DB's.

As far as how Brett played, I sure miss those short passes right in the breadbasket of the WR, away from the DB. I don't think I've ever seen a more reliable slant/short out. I turned off the game late in the 3rd quarter because it looked over to me, so maybe I missed something, but he looked erratic and unreliable down field. He threw the pick, which was more of a bad decision than bad pass. He didn't complete anything over 14 yds in the air when I turned it off. He can get it down there, but the guy we have seems to have better down field accuracy and decision making. That said, Favre is savvy as fuck right now and short stuff is hard to stop esspecially when the LBS can't jsut jump slants with the Jets having a really good run game to watch for too. That team has a better running game and defense than we had, even last year. Honestly, I wouldn't be suprised if they make it to the SB because they're good and Brett fits in really well short, low risk passing attack they run.

Good game by Brett. Good game by their defense. I don't think he could save this defense, but man, he sure might bring us a high draft pick playing in NY.

[Partial]

LOL low risk passing attack? They run a pretty intense offense with passes over the middle of the field between defenders consistently. I'd say our passing attack is far less risk.

The running games are probably about even. Grant was dynamite second half of last year.

[RashanGary]

Shit, the Jets have 5 very winnable games to finish out their season. Brett's playing great. Their defense is playing great. They're healthy as fuck (similar to us last year). The AFC is down in a big way with Merriman and Brady out and Manning having an off year with the knee injury and average surrouding cast. The Giants are the best team in the NFC, but they're missing some big time playmakers on defense with Strahan and Osi gone.

It could be the magical season Brett fans have always hoped for. The Cowboys could get dangerous down the stretch if they get healthy. I'm not a Brett fan (a bit of a hater since the off season stint acctually), but as far as NFL goes I'm a Packer fan first and formost so I'd be happy to see them get in the SB and lose so we'd get the 31st overall pick out of that trade.

[MOBB DEEP]

20-3 ny bretts

brett 2nd td pass (A LASER)

3 mins left in the 3rd

No reason to stretch it bro....that was no laser but a damn fine throw in traffic. :)



sorry, NFLN agrees with me. they called it a "dart"

and if u watch reply it was on a string and b/w THREE defenders in a cluttered endzone my man.....OFF HIS BACK FOOT!!!

[MOBB DEEP]

I'm not a Brett fan (a bit of a hater since the off season stint acctually),

i can dig it; those are my sentiments about packer brass wreckn pack's chemistry and potential "magical" year.....

[Partial]

From JSO:

With Rodgers under center, the Packers are on pace to finish with four fewer touchdown passes (24) and five fewer interceptions (10) than a year ago. Missing during Rodgers' 5-5 start are the magical plays that would have turned defeats into victories

he had a chance to move the Packers in range for a go-ahead field goal under 2 minutes against Tampa Bay and couldn't do it. He had another chance with less than 2 minutes left against Tennessee to set up a go-ahead field goal and couldn't do it.

He had another chance to lead the Packers to victory late against Minnesota, and he got them on the edge of field-goal range, but kicker Mason Crosby missed from 52 yards.

It's anyone's guess whether Favre would have done any better in those games, but it is fair to ask if Rodgers has played it safer than Favre, just for the sake of avoiding interceptions. Has he taken the chances necessary when the game is on the line?

[Kiwon]

It's fair to ask, but next to impossible to really compare.

Brett's a veteran and A-Rod is really in his first year in a lot of ways. After a couple of seasons under his belt A-Rod's play might have made the difference in those situations.

Personally, I'm happy that both guys are doing okay. Brett's a first ballot HOFer. They don't come along very often.

A-Rod is no Farve, but he seems to have the makings of an above average NFL quarterback.

If the two teams don't play each other this year in the Super Bowl (my wish), the schedule makers will find a way to have a Packers-Jets game for next year.

A head-to-head match-up would be great.

[MOBB DEEP]

From JSO:

He had another chance with less than 2 minutes left against Tennessee to set up a go-ahead field goal and couldn't do it.



that 1 hurt the most...

[GBRulz]

From JSO:

With Rodgers under center, the Packers are on pace to finish with four fewer touchdown passes (24) and five fewer interceptions (10) than a year ago. Missing during Rodgers' 5-5 start are the magical plays that would have turned defeats into victories

he had a chance to move the Packers in range for a go-ahead field goal under 2 minutes against Tampa Bay and couldn't do it. He had another chance with less than 2 minutes left against Tennessee to set up a go-ahead field goal and couldn't do it.

He had another chance to lead the Packers to victory late against Minnesota, and he got them on the edge of field-goal range, but kicker Mason Crosby missed from 52 yards.

It's anyone's guess whether Favre would have done any better in those games, but it is fair to ask if Rodgers has played it safer than Favre, just for the sake of avoiding interceptions. Has he taken the chances necessary when the game is on the line?

I don't blame Rodgers at all for MN game. M3 put his eggs in a basket and banked on Crosby making a long FG. Not sure what other reason for the pathetic play calling at the end there.

I think Rodgers is just doing what is asked of him...to manage the game and not take chances.

I hate being so....vanilla.

[cpk1994]

It's fair to ask, but next to impossible to really compare.

Brett's a veteran and A-Rod is really in his first year in a lot of ways. After a couple of seasons under his belt A-Rod's play might have made the difference in those situations.

Personally, I'm happy that both guys are doing okay. Brett's a first ballot HOFer. They don't come along very often.

A-Rod is no Favre, but he seems to have the makings of an above average NFL quarterback.

If the two teams don't play each other this year in the Super Bowl (my wish), the schedule makers will find a way to have a Packers-Jets game for next year.

A head-to-head match-up would be great.That cannot happen. The Packers don't play the AFC East next year.

EDIT: The Packers play the AFC North next year. The next time the Packers will face the Jets barring the Super Bowl will be 2010 in NYC. The chances of a Favre vs. Packers game are next to nil.

[Zool]

It's fair to ask, but next to impossible to really compare.

Brett's a veteran and A-Rod is really in his first year in a lot of ways. After a couple of seasons under his belt A-Rod's play might have made the difference in those situations.

Personally, I'm happy that both guys are doing okay. Brett's a first ballot HOFer. They don't come along very often.

A-Rod is no Favre, but he seems to have the makings of an above average NFL quarterback.

If the two teams don't play each other this year in the Super Bowl (my wish), the schedule makers will find a way to have a Packers-Jets game for next year.

Packers have 2 games not predestined but those come against teams with like records.

A head-to-head match-up would be great.That cannot happen. The Packers don't play the AFC East next year.

EDIT: The Packers play the AFC North next year. The next time the Packers will face the Jets barring the Super Bowl will be 2010 in NYC. The chances of a Favre vs. Packers game are next to nil.

[HarveyWallbangers]

From JSO:

he had a chance to move the Packers in range for a go-ahead field goal under 2 minutes against Tampa Bay and couldn't do it. He had another chance with less than 2 minutes left against Tennessee to set up a go-ahead field goal and couldn't do it.

He had another chance to lead the Packers to victory late against Minnesota, and he got them on the edge of field-goal range, but kicker Mason Crosby missed from 52 yards.

This is fair, but remember these games. The Tampa Bay game is the one he injured his shoulder, and Tampa Bay is tough. He actually did lead them to TWO scoring drives in the final 16 minutes to tie the game against Tennessee (one with 0:11 left in the 3rd quarter and the second with 5 minutes left in the game). The main problem was that the Titans got the ball in OT and never gave it up. Hard to blame him for Minnesota since McCarthy chose to run the ball at the end, so he didn't have a chance to do any more than what he did.

If we win the coin toss in one game and McCarthy lets him have a chance to get closer in the other, we might have two more victories. I wonder how differently the ARod bashers would think of him if that happened.

[Partial]

I'm not sure if I blame MM more or Rodgers, but MM has really turned me off this year.

Watching the Giants/Cardinals game, it was refreshing to see a coach to took advantage of every opportunity to get ahead. I don't feel that MM does that.

[Bretsky]

From JSO:

he had a chance to move the Packers in range for a go-ahead field goal under 2 minutes against Tampa Bay and couldn't do it. He had another chance with less than 2 minutes left against Tennessee to set up a go-ahead field goal and couldn't do it.

He had another chance to lead the Packers to victory late against Minnesota, and he got them on the edge of field-goal range, but kicker Mason Crosby missed from 52 yards.

This is fair, but remember these games. The Tampa Bay game is the one he injured his shoulder, and Tampa Bay is tough. He actually did lead them to TWO scoring drives in the final 16 minutes to tie the game against Tennessee (one with 0:11 left in the 3rd quarter and the second with 5 minutes left in the game). The main problem was that the Titans got the ball in OT and never gave it up. Hard to blame him for Minnesota since McCarthy chose to run the ball at the end, so he didn't have a chance to do any more than what he did.

If we win the coin toss in one game and McCarthy lets him have a chance to get closer in the other, we might have two more victories. I wonder how differently the ARod bashers would think of him if that happened.


I'm not sure there are too many AROD bashers left

If believing the Packers would have a better record with Favre this year than they do right now makes one an AROD basher I bet we have quite a load of them

I think we get less WOW plays with AROD but we also get less DAMMIT plays.

TT made a choice for the best long term interests of the Packers; I can live with that and I hope AROD leads us to the promise land in the future.

[LEWCWA]

From JSO:

he had a chance to move the Packers in range for a go-ahead field goal under 2 minutes against Tampa Bay and couldn't do it. He had another chance with less than 2 minutes left against Tennessee to set up a go-ahead field goal and couldn't do it.

He had another chance to lead the Packers to victory late against Minnesota, and he got them on the edge of field-goal range, but kicker Mason Crosby missed from 52 yards.

This is fair, but remember these games. The Tampa Bay game is the one he injured his shoulder, and Tampa Bay is tough. He actually did lead them to TWO scoring drives in the final 16 minutes to tie the game against Tennessee (one with 0:11 left in the 3rd quarter and the second with 5 minutes left in the game). The main problem was that the Titans got the ball in OT and never gave it up. Hard to blame him for Minnesota since McCarthy chose to run the ball at the end, so he didn't have a chance to do any more than what he did.

If we win the coin toss in one game and McCarthy lets him have a chance to get closer in the other, we might have two more victories. I wonder how differently the ARod bashers would think of him if that happened.


I'm not sure there are too many AROD bashers left

If believing the Packers would have a better record with Favre this year than they do right now makes one an AROD basher I bet we have quite a load of them

I think we get less WOW plays with AROD but we also get less DAMMIT plays.

TT made a choice for the best long term interests of the Packers; I can live with that and I hope AROD leads us to the promise land in the future.

well said. I think AROD got one of those learning things tonight. This is something you have to learn from and move on. Shit happens and it happened tonight. He had happy feet again though.....

[Partial]

I don't think theres any A-Rod bashers, I'm certainly not, but I think he is WAY overrated to this point, and has the talent to be very good.

Right now, he's inconsistent and playing like a 1st year quarterback.

[gex]

Well that sucked ass.
Hows Brett gonna do today?

[gex]

Nice Cadence, getting them to jump on 3rd and 3

[Partial]

Wow, Brett is pissed. What an ugly fucking play, especially in the pouring rain.

[Partial]

I think thats an awful call. It looks like Cotchery has the ball craddled and is tagged down. Dumb play by the official. You've got to call that ball down if you're not sure since you cannot challenge it.

[gex]

It seemed like as soon as he was touched while down play should have ended

[GrnBay007]

Right back in it. - TD Jones

[Partial]

Bad pass by Brett on that pick. Still bitter about the BS call to start the game. Cutler is on fire.

[red]

that was a beautiful screen the jets just ran. everyone blocked that perfect

[denverYooper]

that was a beautiful screen the jets just ran. everyone blocked that perfect

Faneca had 2 nice blocks.

[denverYooper]

Cutler just made a nice throw into a crowd.

[Bretsky]

Steelers are the class of the AFC

[denverYooper]

Steelers are the class of the AFC

Holy smokes, they're putting an ass whippin' on NE.

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Steelers are the class of the AFC

Holy smokes, they're putting an ass whippin' on NE.

Bretsky

steelers offense and pass protection isnt scaring anybody...titans are better imo (we will see on the 21st). titans win and leave possibility of jets gettn that coveted bye

although brett had won 5 straight games, u cant win them all...any given sunday...raiders wrecked broncs the week before then denver comes to jets and man handles them

as a jet backer im not scared of any team cept giants in the parity-laden nfl if we bring our a game

[MOBB DEEP]

will shaun ellis be suspended b/c of weed possession?


leadn team in sacks so he will be critical for the stretch run....

[MOBB DEEP]

Can the bretts get on another 5 game winning streak? 8-) That home loss to broncs really irked me but you cant win them all...parity is GREAT imo....btw, home teams are 10-22 the past 2 weeks so...

NYJ are 0-2 in cali this year (wat u doing out there Mad?) and cant afford to pull off a hat trick at this juncture

lord favre is 7-0 in reg seson games vs SF (5-1 in playoffs with a 104.7 qb rating!) and has 20 td's to 11 ints so he will be honed-in

btw, jets are ONE AND THREE vs the afc west (yuk, worse div)...

i actually think they play grimmier and more focused on the road (MAJORLY impressive wins AT miami, AT bills, AT pats, and AT titans - whew; these trump the TERRIBLE losses to oak and chargers)

jets stubbed their toe last week but will def come out with an enhanced sense of urgency vs lowly 9ers and hammer them cats 35-10

thomas jones continues running rough shot and brett throws 3 td's, 2 to coles. kris BEAST jenkins 2 sacks, leon wash X factor..

LET US GOOOOOO...!!!

[MOBB DEEP]

jet's defense vs the pass AND run is looking very porous thus far....

[MOBB DEEP]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

[channtheman]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

I wish Favre would have done that in the Viking playoff game a few years ago (2004) I think it was.

[BallHawk]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

I wish Favre would have done that in the Viking playoff game a few years ago (2004) I think it was.

Yeah. Easily could of ran it in but instead throws it.

He is running more this year, it seems. Wonder why?

[th87]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

I wish Favre would have done that in the Viking playoff game a few years ago (2004) I think it was.

And the 2003 Eagles playoff game. If he picks up the first down, there is no 4th and 1, and in turn, no 4th and 26.

Not his fault though.

[MOBB DEEP]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

I wish Favre would have done that in the Viking playoff game a few years ago (2004) I think it was.

EXACTLY....that one hurt

[MOBB DEEP]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

I wish Favre would have done that in the Viking playoff game a few years ago (2004) I think it was.

And the 2003 Eagles playoff game. If he picks up the first down, there is no 4th and 1, and in turn, no 4th and 26.

Not his fault though.

right, shreman's fault

[MJZiggy]

favre dives for td, not bad for old man

7-7

I wish Favre would have done that in the Viking playoff game a few years ago (2004) I think it was.

Yeah. Easily could of ran it in but instead throws it.

He is running more this year, it seems. Wonder why?

Without having seen the play, I'd guess it's because he's being coached the opposite of all the other QBs as DBs are so hot to pick him in the red zone.

[MOBB DEEP]

doesnt appear jets came out with fire in eyes today; VERY disappointing that they play down to competition

they will probably BARELY win this contest against a weaker team... :evil:

[MOBB DEEP]

INT david bowens at mid field...

LETS GOOOOO.....

[MOBB DEEP]

afc rushing leader thomas jones 12th TD (ties team record held by curtis martin...)

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avg 5.6 yards per carry today..

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dayum lowery...

[MOBB DEEP]

fg, 17-14 niners

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shoot, 99 yard kickoff return by washington called back

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jets STINKN up the joint big time....

down 10 with 6 mins remaining.....

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LOL....yeah, the jets have no focus; kinda strange considering impressive wins last month...coaching??? phins win div?? at least they're still in contention BARELY.... dayum

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this loss falls on favre and mangini (moreso #4); they BOTH suck royally today

0-3 in cali...darn hosers

[arcilite]

packers in danger of only getting a 3rd round pick now..that sucks.

way to play a shitty game favre

[Bretsky]

packers in danger of only getting a 3rd round pick now..that sucks.

way to play a shitty game favre


Dammit

Yes, it's not looking good on the 2nd anymore

[Rastak]

Not sure if this got posted last summer....the Madden shit is pretty funny. I like the doll he tossed out the window.



http://www.bangcartoon.com/2008/oldflame.htm



here's another one.


http://www.bangcartoon.com/2008/sendoff.htm

[Pugger]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:

[Pacopete4]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:


no biggie... it'll come down to the last week of the season and the Jets will have 10 or 11 wins... and since they only had 4 last season... I'd say Brett Favre is doing one helluva job over there in New York.. I'm sure he's not missin out on our horrendous 5-8 team... maybe I shouldn't be so hard on TT.. he finally did something right for Brett

[arcilite]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:


no biggie... it'll come down to the last week of the season and the Jets will have 10 or 11 wins... and since they only had 4 last season... I'd say Brett Favre is doing one helluva job over there in New York.. I'm sure he's not missin out on our horrendous 5-8 team... maybe I shouldn't be so hard on TT.. he finally did something right for Brett

One hell of a job? lol wat?

He is just doing medicore.

[th87]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:


no biggie... it'll come down to the last week of the season and the Jets will have 10 or 11 wins... and since they only had 4 last season... I'd say Brett Favre is doing one helluva job over there in New York.. I'm sure he's not missin out on our horrendous 5-8 team... maybe I shouldn't be so hard on TT.. he finally did something right for Brett

Looks like the village idiot is back from exile.

[Pacopete4]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:


no biggie... it'll come down to the last week of the season and the Jets will have 10 or 11 wins... and since they only had 4 last season... I'd say Brett Favre is doing one helluva job over there in New York.. I'm sure he's not missin out on our horrendous 5-8 team... maybe I shouldn't be so hard on TT.. he finally did something right for Brett

Looks like the village idiot is back from exile.


why dont u just post about the topic and leave the attacks alone? Its pretty simple..

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:


no biggie... it'll come down to the last week of the season and the Jets will have 10 or 11 wins... and since they only had 4 last season... I'd say Brett Favre is doing one helluva job over there in New York.. I'm sure he's not missin out on our horrendous 5-8 team... maybe I shouldn't be so hard on TT.. he finally did something right for Brett

Looks like the village idiot is back from exile.


why dont u just post about the topic and leave the attacks alone? Its pretty simple..

Because people like to think that they are something special over the fucking internet.

[Gunakor]

Earlier today I searched for a Jets forum to see how the fans are feeling about Brett lately. I Googled and found one. Boy, some of the Jets fans are really blasting BF! :shock: I didn't see the game yesterday (unless the Jets are playing on national TV or a FL team their games aren't aired down here) but I take it Brett didn't have a good game? :? Some of them are now questioning the trade and are sure BF is retiring after this season and now they are in a pickle as far at QB next year. :roll:


no biggie... it'll come down to the last week of the season and the Jets will have 10 or 11 wins... and since they only had 4 last season... I'd say Brett Favre is doing one helluva job over there in New York.. I'm sure he's not missin out on our horrendous 5-8 team... maybe I shouldn't be so hard on TT.. he finally did something right for Brett

Looks like the village idiot is back from exile.


why dont u just post about the topic and leave the attacks alone? Its pretty simple..

People get pissed off when you reference the Packers in a negative light, especially in this thread when comparing the Jets to the Packers. Don't do it. You want people to stop with the negative attacks, fine, but then you stop with the negative comments twoards the Packers. That's a fair comprimise. This is a Packers board after all...

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WHEW...!!!

jets rule

[GrnBay007]

WHEW...!!!

jets rule

:D

Happy for Brett!

[packinpatland]

So am I. That was nice run.....for such an old man.

[arcilite]

another bad game by favre. he is wearing out his welcome on jets fans.

just make the playoffs so i can get my 2nd round pick old man

[Partial]

another bad game by favre. he is wearing out his welcome on jets fans.

just make the playoffs so i can get my 2nd round pick old man

Source?

Why would he be? His team is winning. A team that has been in a rut (like the Packers) has been rejuvenated with his presence and is playing good ball.

[GrnBay007]

another bad game by favre. he is wearing out his welcome on jets fans.

just make the playoffs so i can get my 2nd round pick old man

Oh, c'mon........you guys that continue to "keep an eye" on Favre use the excuse that it's just all about the draft pick the Packers will get. Can't admit you still want to follow him! :D

....it's ok, really! :P

Jets fans will be just fine as long as the Jets are winning games.

[gex]

Man that was a great bootleg run from Favre in the 1st Quarter, so happy for him and the Jets to still be leading the division! :D

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another bad game by favre. he is wearing out his welcome on jets fans.

just make the playoffs so i can get my 2nd round pick old man

Oh, c'mon........you guys that continue to "keep an eye" on Favre use the excuse that it's just all about the draft pick the Packers will get. Can't admit you still want to follow him! :D

....it's ok, really! :P

Jets fans will be just fine as long as the Jets are winning games.


QFT...

packers would certainly switch records

[MOBB DEEP]

So am I. That was nice run.....for such an old man.

he cracked me up talkn about that run during his presser; "i really thought i was gonna score" LOL

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shaun ellis: from smoking weed to game winning TD..WHOA....

[packinpatland]

So am I. That was nice run.....for such an old man.

he cracked me up talkn about that run during his presser; "i really thought i was gonna score" LOL

Look at that boy run!!!

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s229/packinpatland/84031773_101.jpg

[th87]

I do miss this guy.

[Freak Out]

This is the game that I watched because Pack was not on here...big surprise the didn't show a couple of sub 500 teams eh? ...anyway...I had no idea the O-line for the bills was so fucking big...these guys are HUGE! Old #4 was bailed out by his D today....he was off...he was throwing behind and high all day.

[GBRulz]

Ya know what I think I miss the most about this season? I never have the feeling that something big is going to happen in our games lately. When Brett was with us, I always had that hope that something big could happen. Now, sometimes that was good and sometimes that was bad, but still. I guess I just miss taking some risks to win games and being a little more aggressive.

[Pacopete4]

Ya know what I think I miss the most about this season? I never have the feeling that something big is going to happen in our games lately. When Brett was with us, I always had that hope that something big could happen. Now, sometimes that was good and sometimes that was bad, but still. I guess I just miss taking some risks to win games and being a little more aggressive.


ya, couldn't agree more.. just not that same exciting feeling.. the Packers had an aura around them with Brett.. now they're just another team without an identity.. kinda sad

[denverYooper]

Ya know what I think I miss the most about this season? I never have the feeling that something big is going to happen in our games lately. When Brett was with us, I always had that hope that something big could happen. Now, sometimes that was good and sometimes that was bad, but still. I guess I just miss taking some risks to win games and being a little more aggressive.

did you watch the end of the game?

[Pacopete4]

Ya know what I think I miss the most about this season? I never have the feeling that something big is going to happen in our games lately. When Brett was with us, I always had that hope that something big could happen. Now, sometimes that was good and sometimes that was bad, but still. I guess I just miss taking some risks to win games and being a little more aggressive.

did you watch the end of the game?


whats shes saying, at least I think what shes saying is... she never though Rodgers would drive us down and get us a win... with Brett she woulda had high hopes... now we just sit and wait til he implodes and throws a pick or runs outta downs...

[Gunakor]

Ya know what I think I miss the most about this season? I never have the feeling that something big is going to happen in our games lately. When Brett was with us, I always had that hope that something big could happen. Now, sometimes that was good and sometimes that was bad, but still. I guess I just miss taking some risks to win games and being a little more aggressive.


ya, couldn't agree more.. just not that same exciting feeling.. the Packers had an aura around them with Brett.. now they're just another team without an identity.. kinda sad

Did you guys get the same feeling when Mr. Aura was leading our team in 2005? Remember, we lost every single close game we were in that year too, while Mr. Rodgers was still trying to figure out an NFL playbook. But they still had that Favre aura around them, so what gives?

I know, injuries, but the same has happened to our defense this year. I remember Peprah starting at safety one week, and Desmond Bishop starting at OLB. I can remember rookie Jeremy Thompson starting at DE. We've kinda had the same bad luck as we had that year, yet have already won 1 more game than we did that year with a first year starter at QB.

All in all I can't really blame Favre being gone for the teams struggles this year. It probably had a little bit to do with it, but it certainly isn't the difference between 13-3 and where we are today. There's bigger problems with this team today.



GBR, Aaron Rodgers took a risk today at the end of the game that ended in an INT. It's not like he doesn't take chances when trying to win games. Brett would take those chances too, sometimes for the better, and sometimes for a pick. I like to see Rodgers taking chances too, but only when it's called for. I can't really blame him for the INT he threw today, because I couldn't really blame Favre for the INT's he would throw trying to win late in games. But it goes to show anyway that he isn't afraid to take a chance when the situation calls for it.

I can only imagine how much worse this team would be if Rodgers took just as many chances as Favre took, because a lot of what worked for Favre isn't going to work out the same way for most other QB's. Odds are most of those chances would have blown up in our faces if Rodgers took them. Plenty of them blew up in our faces even when Favre took them. Rodgers is no Favre, so I don't see things being better for us if Rodgers played his whole game like Favre did.

[denverYooper]

Ya know what I think I miss the most about this season? I never have the feeling that something big is going to happen in our games lately. When Brett was with us, I always had that hope that something big could happen. Now, sometimes that was good and sometimes that was bad, but still. I guess I just miss taking some risks to win games and being a little more aggressive.

did you watch the end of the game?


whats shes saying, at least I think what shes saying is... she never though Rodgers would drive us down and get us a win... with Brett she woulda had high hopes... now we just sit and wait til he implodes and throws a pick or runs outta downs...

Did you read the last sentence of her comment?

[packerbacker1234]

Look, #4 would of made a difference this season. I think it's obvious. His struggles witht he jets was expected, yet he has played well enough to somehow still be leading his division, and have yet another winning season under his belt.

In the three biggest games the jets had all year to this point, Favre was money. Arizona, Tennesee, and at NE. Favre came up big in the biggest games the jets had. The next one he needs to be big in his against Miami, then naturally the playoffs should they get there.

The difference with #4 is, in 5 or 6 of our losses, when AR had the ball in his hands with a few minutes to go and a chance to win, Favre prolly pulls out half of them. Sure, a couple MAY end in ints, but the point would be that Favre does still win just over 50% of the games when he is put in that situation, a baffling stat. He's already done it this year for another team twice.

I miss #4, because despite the woes on the Jets - Everyone understands he is the leader, and he breads confidence into the entire team. They expect to win,a nd it shows. We expect to compete, but not win, and THAT shows.

The question is: What does #4 do in the playoffs? Does he have any magic left in that arm for the big games? We may get the chance to see. Go Jets.

[Pacopete4]

The question is: What does #4 do in the playoffs? Does he have any magic left in that arm for the big games? We may get the chance to see. Go Jets.


I think thats the number 1 question for Brett Favre fans. Can get saddle up one more time and ride off into the sunset? I think he can. I think he wants it so bad though that sometimes that hurts his play and thats when he starts to force balls no one should ever try. He feels that he has to make that play because no matter what anyone says, and like he said in his press conference, "it gets hard to be Brett Favre" ... I hope he relaxes, goes out and just plays football and allows his two stellar running backs to help him out and when it does get time to make a play, don't force something thats not there. He feels hes running out of time and if he doesnt make a play at that moment, he'll never get the chance again and thats a dangerous thing with Brett Favre.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Not a chance Favre wins more than 1 game in the playoffs, the Jets as a team are just not that good. I can tell a lot of you never played football because I see this brought up a lot. Football is a TEAM sport. It takes an entire team to win championships not just one man.

[arcilite]

Look, #4 would of made a difference this season. I think it's obvious. His struggles witht he jets was expected, yet he has played well enough to somehow still be leading his division, and have yet another winning season under his belt.
.

Yea we sure do miss him at DL and OL. He really helped those struggling lines. And al lthose times he filled in for Barnett when he was injured. Man he is such a good MLB.

Favre also was a good safety when he stepped in when our starters were hurt.

He woulda been awesome on this team.

Wait... what?

[Pacopete4]

Not a chance Favre wins more than 1 game in the playoffs, the Jets as a team are just not that good. I can tell a lot of you never played football because I see this brought up a lot. Football is a TEAM sport. It takes an entire team to win championships not just one man.



Brett's TEAM is good enough to beat anyone in this league. They have a good defense and they can run the ball real well. Add that with Brett being able to have a game where he can carry them on his back in the 4th quarter and theres no reason to think they couldn't win a super bowl.


Its fine that you don't like Brett anymore but come on dude. No one thought the Giants would win a game in last years post season, look how they did....


and if u played so much football... you would think that a person of your intelligence wouldn't make stupid ass comments like that one thats in bold

[Pacopete4]

Look, #4 would of made a difference this season. I think it's obvious. His struggles witht he jets was expected, yet he has played well enough to somehow still be leading his division, and have yet another winning season under his belt.
.

Yea we sure do miss him at DL and OL. He really helped those struggling lines. And al lthose times he filled in for Barnett when he was injured. Man he is such a good MLB.

Favre also was a good safety when he stepped in when our starters were hurt.

He woulda been awesome on this team.

Wait... what?


if you don't think he woulda made a difference in all of our 4th quarter come backs or should I say lack there of... well I don't know what to tell ya other than pull your head outta ur ass

[MOBB DEEP]

amazingly FEW of the experts are sayn jets will make playoffs

they do have the most talent in their div

[packerbacker1234]

[quote=Pacopete4]







GBR, Aaron Rodgers took a risk today at the end of the game that ended in an INT. It's not like he doesn't take chances when trying to win games. Brett would take those chances too, sometimes for the better, and sometimes for a pick.

Difference is RECOGNIZING where you are in the game. 50 seconds to go around mid field, you don't start forcing passes.

1:30 left in a game, you don't chuck it deep in double coverage. I am not saying Brett doesn't make questionable decisions, but under two minutes he has pretty much been money his whole career. He gets less risky and drives the field, only going deep in one on one situations. It's different earlier in the game: He knows he can still get the ball back. Under two minutes, Favre rarely took the sort of risks rodgers has two weeks in a row when THAT MUCH time is left on the clock. He'll take those shots when under 30 seconds left around his own 30, not with plenty of time to drive the field, timeouts in the back pocket, etc.

Rodgers, as MM put it, needs to work on not getting overagressive in big moments.

[packerbacker1234]

Not a chance Favre wins more than 1 game in the playoffs, the Jets as a team are just not that good. I can tell a lot of you never played football because I see this brought up a lot. Football is a TEAM sport. It takes an entire team to win championships not just one man.



Brett's TEAM is good enough to beat anyone in this league. They have a good defense and they can run the ball real well. Add that with Brett being able to have a game where he can carry them on his back in the 4th quarter and theres no reason to think they couldn't win a super bowl.


Its fine that you don't like Brett anymore but come on dude. No one thought the Giants would win a game in last years post season, look how they did....


and if u played so much football... you would think that a person of your intelligence wouldn't make stupid ass comments like that one thats in bold

You must not watch many jets games. Their Defense is as bad as the packers, except, they don't get the turnover production the packers D gets. So, technically, they are worse. Yeah, the D "bailed" out Favre, but that same D also gave up 27 points in the game, and ton a of yards.

It was not a good game by the jets in general, they were just the better team and got a fluke play towards the end to win it.

The Jets have the ABILITY to beat any team in the NFL. Most teams do. Have you watched the Lions lately? They are losing, but not by much anymore. They can beat anyone on any given sunday. So can the pack. So can any team in the NFL.

The reason some feel the jets have a chance to win every game they walk into is because #4 is at QB. Say what you want, but every expert, analyst, etc. will all admit even at 39, if Brett is your QB your team automatically has the ability to beat any team you face. Doesn't mean you will, but it means that other areas can play like shit, but Brett can go off on you and win it pretty much on his own.

That is total confidence. He has it. AR doesn't. AR may get it, and I hope he does. As of now, Brett is still a better leader, and possibly abetter QB in general.

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jets/bills on nfln

[Gunakor]

[quote=Pacopete4]







GBR, Aaron Rodgers took a risk today at the end of the game that ended in an INT. It's not like he doesn't take chances when trying to win games. Brett would take those chances too, sometimes for the better, and sometimes for a pick.

Difference is RECOGNIZING where you are in the game. 50 seconds to go around mid field, you don't start forcing passes.

1:30 left in a game, you don't chuck it deep in double coverage. I am not saying Brett doesn't make questionable decisions, but under two minutes he has pretty much been money his whole career. He gets less risky and drives the field, only going deep in one on one situations. It's different earlier in the game: He knows he can still get the ball back. Under two minutes, Favre rarely took the sort of risks rodgers has two weeks in a row when THAT MUCH time is left on the clock. He'll take those shots when under 30 seconds left around his own 30, not with plenty of time to drive the field, timeouts in the back pocket, etc.

Rodgers, as MM put it, needs to work on not getting overagressive in big moments.

With under 2 minutes, Favre has been money occasionally - not consistently - throughout his whole career. But expand this to include overtime, when it is also no guarantee he'd get the ball back. The 2 postseason overtime INT's this decade are just the icing on this cake. Favre has cost his team games by being overagressive, and to say that's not true is silliness. Anyone with a pair of eyes and a TV set can figure that one out...

But proportionately you are right, Favre has been successful in 2 minute drives more often than Rodgers has. Even proportionately. I'd just wish Rodgers wasn't put in that position every week to begin with, especially after having put together a winning scoring drive with 5 minutes to go in the game.

[MOBB DEEP]

until that fluke int favre and jets were BALLN

[packerbacker1234]

until that fluke int favre and jets were BALLN

yeah, that int seemed to kill all their momentum.

But hey, they won. On to the next game. I predict 3TD's by Brett this week. It's been awhile since he had a big game like that, he's due.

[Gunakor]

Not a chance Favre wins more than 1 game in the playoffs, the Jets as a team are just not that good. I can tell a lot of you never played football because I see this brought up a lot. Football is a TEAM sport. It takes an entire team to win championships not just one man.



Brett's TEAM is good enough to beat anyone in this league. They have a good defense and they can run the ball real well. Add that with Brett being able to have a game where he can carry them on his back in the 4th quarter and theres no reason to think they couldn't win a super bowl.


Its fine that you don't like Brett anymore but come on dude. No one thought the Giants would win a game in last years post season, look how they did....


and if u played so much football... you would think that a person of your intelligence wouldn't make stupid ass comments like that one thats in bold

You must not watch many jets games. Their Defense is as bad as the packers, except, they don't get the turnover production the packers D gets. So, technically, they are worse. Yeah, the D "bailed" out Favre, but that same D also gave up 27 points in the game, and ton a of yards.

It was not a good game by the jets in general, they were just the better team and got a fluke play towards the end to win it.

The Jets have the ABILITY to beat any team in the NFL. Most teams do. Have you watched the Lions lately? They are losing, but not by much anymore. They can beat anyone on any given sunday. So can the pack. So can any team in the NFL.

The reason some feel the jets have a chance to win every game they walk into is because #4 is at QB. Say what you want, but every expert, analyst, etc. will all admit even at 39, if Brett is your QB your team automatically has the ability to beat any team you face. Doesn't mean you will, but it means that other areas can play like shit, but Brett can go off on you and win it pretty much on his own.

That is total confidence. He has it. AR doesn't. AR may get it, and I hope he does. As of now, Brett is still a better leader, and possibly abetter QB in general.

Wow, I never even realized that. My how the mighty have fallen. 3 weeks ago the Jets defense was top 10 in the NFL. Now they are down to #19. Weird.

Yet makes a funny kind of sense, considering the Jets are 1-2 over that time period.

[packerbacker1234]

Wow, I never even realized that. My how the mighty have fallen. 3 weeks ago the Jets defense was top 10 in the NFL. Now they are down to #19. Weird.

Yet makes a funny kind of sense, considering the Jets are 1-2 over that time period.

*sigh*, as I said, you clearly have not watched the jets all season. The defense they played against NE was not good, and yeah the jets dominated Tenn, who is a run first team (meaning, they are clock eaters, not big point scorers). At the time, the jets D just had a good gameplan, and Tenn gave up on running the ball. Heck, the packers D has a couple good games this season too. Don't you remember how they shut down the colts?

The Jets D isn't just bad because of the performances the last 3 weeks, they are bad in general over the entire season. The most consistent player they have is Kris Jenkins. Beyond him, they don't know what to expect game to game. Jets D is pretty much yuck. Talented, like ours, but for the most part has been a disapointment. Few good showings, one just happened to be against a undefeated team at the time. I didn't buy it for one second, nor did most jets fans. Jets fans already realize at this point the jets only make the playoffs, and only make noise in the playoffs at this point, based off how well Favre can play down the stretch, because the D wont be winning any games for them.

[Gunakor]

Wow, I never even realized that. My how the mighty have fallen. 3 weeks ago the Jets defense was top 10 in the NFL. Now they are down to #19. Weird.

Yet makes a funny kind of sense, considering the Jets are 1-2 over that time period.

*sigh*, as I said, you clearly have not watched the jets all season. The defense they played against NE was not good, and yeah the jets dominated Tenn, who is a run first team (meaning, they are clock eaters, not big point scorers). At the time, the jets D just had a good gameplan, and Tenn gave up on running the ball. Heck, the packers D has a couple good games this season too. Don't you remember how they shut down the colts?

The Jets D isn't just bad because of the performances the last 3 weeks, they are bad in general over the entire season. The most consistent player they have is Kris Jenkins. Beyond him, they don't know what to expect game to game. Jets D is pretty much yuck. Talented, like ours, but for the most part has been a disapointment. Few good showings, one just happened to be against a undefeated team at the time. I didn't buy it for one second, nor did most jets fans. Jets fans already realize at this point the jets only make the playoffs, and only make noise in the playoffs at this point, based off how well Favre can play down the stretch, because the D wont be winning any games for them.

Teams don't become top 10 in anything 12 weeks into the season by accident. And yes, I have seen some Jets games this year. Is there defense elite, no, but they are able to come up with a stop when they need to from time to time. With our defense, whenever the game is on the line the defense folds and gives up the winning score. Every single time. To that extent, the Jets defense is far better than ours.

Not to mention that much of Favre's success has been built off of defensive effort. Like the 6 TD's he threw against Arizona, even though he was given a short field every drive and had less than 300 yards for the day.

Or the couple games the Jets won where Brett threw 3 INT's.

This isn't meant to knock Favre at all, but you can't discount the defensive effort given all season. Again, 3/4 of the way through the season, if you are top 10 at anything it's no accident. You've earned it.

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jets had 7 players make pro bowl. thats an nfl best and team record

lord
alan faneca
leon washington
darrelle revis
nick mangold
thomas jones
kris BEAST jenkins

LETS GOOOOOO.....!!!

[MOBB DEEP]

I predict 3TD's by Brett this week. It's been awhile since he had a big game like that, he's due.

my sentiments today too

[packerbacker1234]

Not to mention that much of Favre's success has been built off of defensive effort. Like the 6 TD's he threw against Arizona, even though he was given a short field every drive and had less than 300 yards for the day.

Or the couple games the Jets won where Brett threw 3 INT's.

This isn't meant to knock Favre at all, but you can't discount the defensive effort given all season. Again, 3/4 of the way through the season, if you are top 10 at anything it's no accident. You've earned it.

No, Favre had 289yards on that 6 TD day. Whoops.

It's one game, count it, one game they won when Favre threw three picks. Oh, and who was throwing the GW TD pass at the end to win that three pick performance? The Defense gave up 20+ points that game.

top 10 3/4 through at what? Because, it wasn't in the only stat that matters: Points allowed. The jets D has been giving up tons of points this season. I'll admit, with Kris Jenkins fresh, they were stopping hte run pretty good, but stats can be decieving.

Remember the Bengals a few seasons back, with the record number of Int's and blah blah. They were also top 10, and also completely garbage. With the exact same palyers the next season, the defense finished at 29.

Just saying, WATCH the games, don't just sit back and look at stats. I mean, remember when with Jim Bates the packers were #5 at the end of a 4-12 season? If you watched the games, you knew our defense wasn't remotely as good as the statistics made it out to be. maybe top 20, not top 5 that season.

[MOBB DEEP]

favre ties johnny u for most probowl selections for a qb at 10

WHOA.....

[Pacopete4]

If this is it Brett, I wish it was for the Pack but fuck it... get on one of those hot streaks we see outta you every once and awhile and go for a run... get in the post season and do some damage... damn, I just wanna see the man who's given his all to a child's sport, get on a run and finish the way a guy like him is supposed to

[Freak Out]

December 17, 2008
Watching Favre From Baghdad Evokes Memories
By JAMES GLANZ

BAGHDAD — After nearly five years of covering the conflict here, I am leaving Iraq soon for a saner assignment. Having seen and felt more during those years than I can process or express for now, I am spending a lot of time trying to understand, really understand, why the Green Bay Packers let Brett Favre go to the Jets.

I am a Packers fan from birth, and my father covered some of the great Lombardi teams as a TV sports anchor out of Madison, Wis., when I was in grade school. Vince Lombardi had what now might be called a Favre-like ability to awe and charm at the same time. At Dad’s first news conference in Green Bay, before he knew anyone with the team, Lombardi noticed the new guy 10 rows deep in the gallery and stepped off the podium to offer his hand and that big grin. He said, “I’m Vince Lombardi.”

“Like I didn’t know,” Dad said Sunday, when I phoned him from Baghdad to catch up and talk a little football. “I almost had to take out my driver’s license to tell him what my name was.”

The news conference was a first lesson in genuine star power. There would be many more for my father, Irv Glanz, as well as a few for me. But I hadn’t called him to talk about the old days; I wanted to tell him I’d watched the Jets beat the Bills on Sunday after years of not being able to see regular-season football games on satellite television in Baghdad.

A colleague once likened reporting here to sending dispatches from Mars. Sunday was like watching the N.F.L. on Mars. Imagine sitting in a Mars lander on the endless dunes and watching Leon Washington take the ball from Favre and break off a 47-yard run for a touchdown as if he were the only player in a zero-gravity suit. At that moment, the remote and chilly reaches of the solar system all seemed to be friendly places, even if you were not really a Jets fan.

It was so much fun that I asked Mudhafer al-Husseini, an athletic young Iraqi in our newsroom, to stop by my office and watch some of the game. (As the Baghdad bureau chief for The Times, I run a compound of about 120 Iraqi translators, reporters, guards, drivers and other staff.) Mudhafer was at first distracted, because Sunday was the day an Iraqi journalist threw his shoes at President Bush, and our Western correspondents were continuously calling Mudhafer’s cellphone to ask what it all meant.

When his telephone had stopped ringing, Mudhafer said with classic Iraqi bluntness, “I never liked this game.” He looked blankly at the screen as Favre faked a handoff and threw deep to David Clowney, who made an astonishing one-handed catch. A few plays later, Favre made one of his wild heaves downfield and was intercepted. Unmoved, Mudhafer said, “I like soccer and I can understand it.”

But the truth is, Mudhafer is a sports fan in the transcendent sense. I explained the rules and what was happening as the game went along, and by the time J. P. Losman fumbled and Shaun Ellis scored — looking like a large man stumbling dangerously down a hill — Mudhafer was jumping and yelling with me.

“I like this game now, because it holds your breath!” he said.

Ignoring the broadcasters, Mudhafer also recognized immediately that the cameras were framing the game with Favre’s expressions: hands-on-hips chagrin when he threw the interception; lowered eyes on the sideline as Buffalo seemed close to running out the clock; and the leprechaun hops when Ellis lurched into the end zone.

That was another lesson of the Lombardi years, when his nervous pacing, plumes of agitated breath, Jovian scowls and big grin told you where the game stood. Stars on that scale could win you games, and they did, but they also gave you the characters you needed for your personal narrative of the contest. Those narratives, not the newspaper stories or the play by play, turn a team logo into an institution with a history and a right to belong in a certain time and place.

The distance from Mesopotamia to the Meadowlands, about 6,000 miles, brings with it a certain perspective. After Mudhafer left, the crawler at the bottom of the TV screen gave the last in a dismal progression of scores for the Packers-Jaguars game: a 20-16 Green Bay loss.

I know that for the analytical minds of my profession, a final judgment on the Favre trade must wait for a range of subtleties involving the impending showdown with Chad Pennington and the Dolphins; the relative passer ratings of Favre and Aaron Rodgers, who is now under center for the Packers; and a million other factors. But in the Book of Titletown, the only thing that could possibly have justified forcing someone of Favre’s stature to leave for New York is an immediate and obvious swing in wins or some other stirring improvement.

The Packers, who went to the National Football Conference title game last year, are 5-9 and out of the playoffs. The Jets, who had four wins last year, are 9-5 and still in the hunt. This tells me that the football bureaucrats who let Favre go, and whose names I cannot keep straight over here, will see the wrath of the Packers’ gods — Lombardi presiding — come down on their helmetless heads. Soon.

You can read Homer to see how that one ends. In a less epic vein, on Sunday, Dad retold the story of buying expensive golf shoes just before a tournament for Wisconsin sportscasters and Packers players, then shooting well and having his choice of the prizes laid out on a table. They included a nice pair of golf shoes for which he had no use. “Vince came up and put his arm around me and said, ‘Irv, take the golf shoes,’ ” Dad said.

“I took the golf shoes,” he said.

[MOBB DEEP]

with all those pro bowlers (nfl-leading 7!) the NY Bretts' confidence should be nearly as high as it was after whooping up on the titans

it should propel them to handle their biz the last 2 games and get 'er done

im going to that last game vs phins which should be for ALL the marbles!!!

gotham gunslinger...

LETS GOOOO....!!!

[Gunakor]

Not to mention that much of Favre's success has been built off of defensive effort. Like the 6 TD's he threw against Arizona, even though he was given a short field every drive and had less than 300 yards for the day.

Or the couple games the Jets won where Brett threw 3 INT's.

This isn't meant to knock Favre at all, but you can't discount the defensive effort given all season. Again, 3/4 of the way through the season, if you are top 10 at anything it's no accident. You've earned it.

No, Favre had 289yards on that 6 TD day. Whoops.

It's one game, count it, one game they won when Favre threw three picks. Oh, and who was throwing the GW TD pass at the end to win that three pick performance? The Defense gave up 20+ points that game.

top 10 3/4 through at what? Because, it wasn't in the only stat that matters: Points allowed. The jets D has been giving up tons of points this season. I'll admit, with Kris Jenkins fresh, they were stopping hte run pretty good, but stats can be decieving.

Remember the Bengals a few seasons back, with the record number of Int's and blah blah. They were also top 10, and also completely garbage. With the exact same palyers the next season, the defense finished at 29.

Just saying, WATCH the games, don't just sit back and look at stats. I mean, remember when with Jim Bates the packers were #5 at the end of a 4-12 season? If you watched the games, you knew our defense wasn't remotely as good as the statistics made it out to be. maybe top 20, not top 5 that season.

Did you go to math class? 289 < 300. Whoops.

I guess Favre really did have short fields that day all afternoon. QB's don't get short fields all afternoon if they have a poor defense. Maybe it is you who needs to watch that game again. Because I already have, and I know what I saw.

I know who threw the GW TD pass after throwing 3 picks, because I saw that game too, but that doesn't excuse the 3 picks he threw. The defense HELD the other team to JUST 20+ points. When your QB turns the ball over 3 times, your opponent better score at least that many. My point is that the defense didn't allow 30+ or 40+ points, which can very easily happen when your offense turns the ball over that many times. Teams that turn the ball over 3 or more times don't win very often, and when they do, it's a credit to the defense. Every time. Every single time.

[gex]

favre ties johnny u for most probowl selections for a qb at 10

WHOA.....

THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND!
8-)

[GrnBay007]

Interesting article Freak Out, thanks for posting it.

[Freak Out]

Interesting article Freak Out, thanks for posting it.

I always love to hear/read stories like that about Packer "connections".

[MOBB DEEP]

quite AMAZN this cat makes pro bowl and is leadn jets on this run after missing camp and learning new offense/team...

wonder if thats EVER been done...hmmmm......

yeah, 13-3 DEF coulda been duplicated in packland with a full TC - DAYUM...

LORD

[GrnBay007]

Since everyone is so big on stats these days...

Favre...


He is a remarkable 26-6 in the last two games of the regular season, and never has he lost both of them in the same year.

[Bossman641]

quite AMAZN this cat makes pro bowl and is leadn jets on this run after missing camp and learning new offense/team...

wonder if thats EVER been done...hmmmm......

yeah, 13-3 DEF coulda been duplicated in packland with a full TC - DAYUM...

LORD

Only if Favre had healing powers and could have kept our defense healthy all year. I didn't know Favre was such an expert in preventive injury care. :roll:

[red]

vintage brett favre on the first drive of the game

[imscott72]

vintage brett favre on the first drive of the game

Sure was. Watching this game reminds me of being at the "snow globe" game. Great times..Seems like so long ago now..

[arcilite]

I can't believe he is going to the pro bowl

[Cheesehead Craig]

Being outplayed by Seneca Wallace.... damn.

[digitaldean]

Both the Jets and the Vikings are playing tight.

I can't believe how Mangini, Favre and the Jets are doing the collective choke job on this. All they have to do is win out and they are in.

Falcons are kind of lucky, but they are making their own breaks as well.

Can not believe how QUIET the Twinkiedome is today.

[packinpatland]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

[Chevelle2]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

[Chevelle2]

Just Brett being Brett!

[denverYooper]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

That's who he is.

[RIPackerFan]

What an awful week - first the Pack gets mathematically eliminated from the playoffs - and then it looks like we will only get a 3rd for Favre (and a late 3rd too.

Jeez - I'm ready to stop watching football until next year.

[packinpatland]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.


I was talking about the previous set of downs.......it was in Coles' hands.
That last one........just bad.

[Bretsky]

The bad karma of the whole season rings on

Kiss the 2nd round pick goodbye

[Chevelle2]

1 TD and 6 INTs in his past 4 games post-thansgiving



:roll:

[arcilite]

horrible

[steve823]

Hahaha...now I can make fun of all these people that said FAvre is so great and will take the Jets to the Superbowl and Rodgers Sucks. Well Rodgers is playing great and FAvre is choking like always.

What a shame though we might not get a 2nd. But if Jets win and Pats win next week there in..very possible..b/c there all divison games.

[Partial]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

Who cares? The ball hit him in the chest. That's what matters.

[Partial]

The bad karma of the whole season rings on

Kiss the 2nd round pick goodbye

Yep. The curse of the Touchdown Titan is in full force right now. Not only did we have to put up with mid-season excellence when our team was struggling, but now the proverbial kick in the groin is occurring, resulting in a third round pick instead of a second.

[RIPackerFan]

Favre needs to retire.....I love the guy but either he's hurt (which means he can't heal/play through the pain like he used to) or his arm is losing arm strength big time.

I have no doubt he will this time, since Mangini is fired after the end of this season - and he won't stick around for another coach. Also, this team has nowhere to go but down.

[Chevelle2]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

Who cares? The ball hit him in the chest. That's what matters.

24 turnovers is all that matters.

[Partial]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

Who cares? The ball hit him in the chest. That's what matters.

24 turnovers is all that matters.

Umm.. Ok. Relevance? Get the fuck out of here. You're just a trolling bitch.

[RIPackerFan]

knowing our luck - the Jets will win next week - and still not get in the playoffs - thus souring our pick position even more.

[arcilite]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

Who cares? The ball hit him in the chest. That's what matters.

24 turnovers is all that matters.

Umm.. Ok. Relevance? Get the fuck out of here. You're just a trolling bitch.

Relevance?

Favre throws too many fucking interceptions thats what relevant

[Chevelle2]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

Who cares? The ball hit him in the chest. That's what matters.

24 turnovers is all that matters.

Umm.. Ok. Relevance? Get the fuck out of here. You're just a trolling bitch.

Can't handle that your savior choked again?

Sorry.

[Fred's Slacks]

Wow. People were seriously saying the Jets could be the favorite in the AFC after they beat TN. Now they get owned by Seattle? Epic collapse.

[RIPackerFan]

Terrible coaching by Mangini - the teams they played knew exactly how to beat them, and he didn't know how to coach around it.

Wow - what an awful year for the Packers.

[Chevelle2]

Favre has played in 92 games in which his team trailed by 8 or less points with 5:00 or less to play in the 4th...

His record in those games 23-69.

[The Shadow]

ESPN :
"Mike Holmgren, Favre's confidant and former coach in Green Bay, went out a winner in his final home game as the leader in Seattle -- largely because Favre came up short when the Jets (9-6) needed him most."

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

[Partial]

I'm not saying Favre played great.......but holy sh*t......that last pass was right on.......damn it.

What the hell is he doing heaving it deep into double coverage?

All he needed was 4 yards.

Who cares? The ball hit him in the chest. That's what matters.

24 turnovers is all that matters.

Umm.. Ok. Relevance? Get the fuck out of here. You're just a trolling bitch.

Can't handle that your savior choked again?

Sorry.

Savior? Hardly.

Played a poor game no doubt. It's because the curse of the Touchdown Titan is striking again.

[Partial]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

[Chevelle2]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

[Partial]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

I'm not happy about it... We should be the #1 or #2 seed. I'm absolutely irate.

[Chevelle2]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

I'm not happy about it... We should be the #1 or #2 seed. I'm absolutely irate.

Yet you predict us to lose to DET.

Great fan...

PS.....

Favre leads the NFL in total turnovers.

Rodgers is 3rd the NFL in total touchdowns. (Warner, Brees, who have played 1 more game)

[Chevelle2]

Favre has played in 92 games in which his team trailed by 8 or less points with 5:00 or less to play in the 4th...

His record in those games 23-69.

Partial will conveniently ignore this.

[Partial]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

I'm not happy about it... We should be the #1 or #2 seed. I'm absolutely irate.

Yet you predict us to lose to DET.

Great fan...

PS.....

Favre leads the NFL in total turnovers.

Rodgers is 3rd the NFL in total touchdowns. (Warner, Brees, who have played 1 more game)

Predicting they lose != wanting them to lose...

Don't give a crap about Rodgers. It's not at all fair to compare him to a first ballot hall of famer when he has yet to beat a winning team.

[Chevelle2]

Don't give a crap about Rodgers.

That much is obvious....

[ThunderDan]

Favre's stats today
18/31 187 yards 2 ints 48.7 rating

I wanted Favre to play for the Packers this year before the summer fiasco. I blame the NFC Championship game on Bush for not picking up the fumble not on Brett's pick in OT. I guess the group that was was saying Favre plays poorly in the cold now is correct looking at the last couple of weeks.

[GBRulz]

I wouldn't doubt if Mangini is fired after the season. Talk about horrible coaching today, wow. Especially not punting on the last possession that would allow Seattle to get a FG anyhow....just DUMB

Coles and Bubba also dropped balls on plays that would have been big gains. The Jets lost as a team today, that's for sure. On the other hand, you've got to give the Seahawk's credit, they were hell bent on winning that game for Holmgren.

[pack4to84]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

I'm not happy about it... We should be the #1 or #2 seed. I'm absolutely irate.

Yet you predict us to lose to DET.

Great fan...

PS.....

Favre leads the NFL in total turnovers.

Rodgers is 3rd the NFL in total touchdowns. (Warner, Brees, who have played 1 more game)

Predicting they lose != wanting them to lose...

Don't give a crap about Rodgers. It's not at all fair to compare him to a first ballot hall of famer when he has yet to beat a winning team.

He beat the Vikings, Colts and Bears all have winning records. partial just admit that TT was right and trading old slow can't throw QB for no worst then a 3 rd pick. TT can do that we might get a 2nd rd pick for DT. Wait he did that too. WOW what magic TT has.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

:lol: Ignorance really is bliss isn't it?

The fact is, the Jets really aren't that good of a team to begin with, even when completely healthy.

[packinpatland]

I wouldn't doubt if Mangini is fired after the season. Talk about horrible coaching today, wow. Especially not punting on the last possession that would allow Seattle to get a FG anyhow....just DUMB

Coles and Bubba also dropped balls on plays that would have been big gains. The Jets lost as a team today, that's for sure. On the other hand, you've got to give the Seahawk's credit, they were hell bent on winning that game for Holmgren.


Well said.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The bad karma of the whole season rings on

Kiss the 2nd round pick goodbye

ya, but the third rounder just moved a little closer to the top.

[chain_gang]

I wouldn't doubt if Mangini is fired after the season. Talk about horrible coaching today, wow. Especially not punting on the last possession that would allow Seattle to get a FG anyhow....just DUMB

Coles and Bubba also dropped balls on plays that would have been big gains. The Jets lost as a team today, that's for sure. On the other hand, you've got to give the Seahawk's credit, they were hell bent on winning that game for Holmgren.



Yeah the Mangini seemed to called a pretty crappy game, the biggest was not letting his kicker attempt a 50 yarder after he drilled one from 45 with plenty to spare on a fg wiped out by penalty. In fairness to Bubba's drop, I think you need a little touch on the pass. You can't throw a fastball to a guy that's a yard or two away from you. The Coles drop really wasn't a drop in my view that DB made one hell of a play getting his arm in there to break it up. It was a perfect throw, but a picture perfect play on the defensive side. The problem with this team this year is that they play down to their competition, I've seen it it almost every game. Oakland, Cincy, Buffalo, San Fran, and when they play a good team they play up to it's competition, Tennessee, New England........I don't know who that'd fall on more, the players or the coaches, but I'm leaning more to the players, feeling too overconfident in themselves every one of them, even Favre. This year Favre seems to be more of a risk taker against crappier teams, feeling maybe that a few turnovers may not hurt the team against a crappy team? I know I'll catch some heat for that but it's just my opinion, and next sunday against the dolphins I don't think he'll even turn the ball over and will have one of his classic Favre games, why because the level of competition he's playing against, and he'll know he has to eliminate mistakes to have a shot at beating the Phins.

[RashanGary]

Haha.

[Harlan Huckleby]

:lol: Ignorance really is bliss isn't it?

The fact is, the Jets really aren't that good of a team to begin with, even when completely healthy.

They would be the toast of the NFC North. Not saying much, I suppose. But they are decent on both sides of the ball.

Who are the good teams in the NFL? We thought Dallas was all-world after they pasted the Packers. The NFL is awash in mediocrity.

[RashanGary]

I'll be lookign forward to 007 posting all of the great NY articles this week, haha. Oh wait, I'll have to dig them out this week ;)


1 TD, 6 INTs in last 4 games. Not Brett's fault :) :)

[Partial]

Haha.

I don't understand why you have so little life as to come into a Brett Favre thread just to laugh?

Newsflash: The Packers have been out of the playoffs for weeks. The Jets are STILL in the hunt!

Give me a fucking break, some of you guys are such douchebags.

[Partial]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

I'm not happy about it... We should be the #1 or #2 seed. I'm absolutely irate.

Yet you predict us to lose to DET.

Great fan...

PS.....

Favre leads the NFL in total turnovers.

Rodgers is 3rd the NFL in total touchdowns. (Warner, Brees, who have played 1 more game)

Predicting they lose != wanting them to lose...

Don't give a crap about Rodgers. It's not at all fair to compare him to a first ballot hall of famer when he has yet to beat a winning team.

He beat the Vikings, Colts and Bears all have winning records. partial just admit that TT was right and trading old slow can't throw QB for no worst then a 3 rd pick. TT can do that we might get a 2nd rd pick for DT. Wait he did that too. WOW what magic TT has.

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record when playing them. Don't cloud the facts.

[arcilite]

The Trolls' argument is falling flat because it doesn't change the fact that our team is still far WORSE than the Jets.

5-11.. only team to lose to Detroit. Mark it down.

You would be happy that your team has a worse record than your God's team.

I'm not happy about it... We should be the #1 or #2 seed. I'm absolutely irate.

Yet you predict us to lose to DET.

Great fan...

PS.....

Favre leads the NFL in total turnovers.

Rodgers is 3rd the NFL in total touchdowns. (Warner, Brees, who have played 1 more game)

Predicting they lose != wanting them to lose...

Don't give a crap about Rodgers. It's not at all fair to compare him to a first ballot hall of famer when he has yet to beat a winning team.

He beat the Vikings, Colts and Bears all have winning records. partial just admit that TT was right and trading old slow can't throw QB for no worst then a 3 rd pick. TT can do that we might get a 2nd rd pick for DT. Wait he did that too. WOW what magic TT has.

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record when playing them. Don't cloud the facts.

you are pathetic

[Partial]

But I've beaten winning teams before :D

[RashanGary]

Favre got outplayed by Seneca Wallace. Really now. Enough said. I watched a few plays between the Viking commercials and damn, could he go down any easier? One hand on his jersey and he's done. REally dumb picks too. I haven't seen QB play that bad since the last time I watched Brett Favre. Oh, wait.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record when playing them. Don't cloud the facts.

Silly and meaningless. Also, it's wrong. Indianapolis was 3-2 when we beat them.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not only that, Chicago was 5-4 when we beat them.

So, we've beaten 3 teams with a winning record. We've beaten 2 teams that had a winning record when we beat them.

[Partial]

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record when playing them. Don't cloud the facts.

Silly and meaningless. Also, it's wrong. Indianapolis was 3-2 when we beat them.

3-3 after we beat them. End of the game result was not a winning team. Same with Chicago.

[HarveyWallbangers]

3-3 after we beat them. End of the game result was not a winning team. Same with Chicago.

Too funny.

[Partial]

This is just Silly. Shows how Pathetic people like Nick Collins are. Is anyone really surprised that Favre isn't playing at MVP level after missing camp and learning a new system? I doubt it. He's 39.

Look at last year, in an offense he knew, he took a team to overtime in the championship game. This year, that same team, is awful. Is it all a result of Brett Favre leaving? No, but a good chunk of it is.

With that said, you're essentially bragging that Favre is playing bad. Who cares, honestly. Are the Packers lighting it up? No!

The Jets record was worse than the Packers last year, and better this year. Clearly, there was a HUGE improvement in their organization, and a huge step back in ours. This is indisputable.

It's like you're the benchwarmer of the football team making fun of the kid who got cut. Sure, he didn't make the team, but you're still a loser for sitting on the bench not playing yourself.

"I'm glad we got rid of Brett Favre because HE is teh SUCK!!!! Nebermind the fact that our record is awful, our team is worse than his, and wtfbbq, but I hate him because he suckas and he sucks because I hate him!"

[Partial]

3-3 after we beat them. End of the game result was not a winning team. Same with Chicago.

Too funny.

Is it not true? Dude, I'm stating facts that I've heard during Packer games by the announcers, when looking at the teams, they were clearly NOT .500 after the game. Therefore, after the Packers played the team, they had not beaten a .500 team.

[RashanGary]

I don't understand why you have so little life as to come into a Brett Favre thread just to laugh?

Newsflash: The Packers have been out of the playoffs for weeks. The Jets are STILL in the hunt!

Give me a fucking break, some of you guys are such douchebags.

No need to name call, Partial.

[Chevelle2]

This is just Silly. Shows how Pathetic people like Nick Collins are. Is anyone really surprised that Favre isn't playing at MVP level after missing camp and learning a new system? I doubt it. He's 39.

Look at last year, in an offense he knew, he took a team to overtime in the championship game. This year, that same team, is awful. Is it all a result of Brett Favre leaving? No, but a good chunk of it is.

With that said, you're essentially bragging that Favre is playing bad. Who cares, honestly. Are the Packers lighting it up? No!

The Jets record was worse than the Packers last year, and better this year. Clearly, there was a HUGE improvement in their organization, and a huge step back in ours. This is indisputable.

It's like you're the benchwarmer of the football team making fun of the kid who got cut. Sure, he didn't make the team, but you're still a loser for sitting on the bench not playing yourself.

"I'm glad we got rid of Brett Favre because HE is teh SUCK!!!! Nebermind the fact that our record is awful, our team is worse than his, and wtfbbq, but I hate him because he suckas and he sucks because I hate him!"

Perhaps people like who, who are overly obsessed with Favre, would prevent such sentiments that you disapprove of, from arising.

But just like in Bretts case, ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT.

[RashanGary]

3-3 after we beat them. End of the game result was not a winning team. Same with Chicago.

Too funny.

Is it not true? Dude, I'm stating facts that I've heard during Packer games by the announcers, when looking at the teams, they were clearly NOT .500 after the game. Therefore, after the Packers played the team, they had not beaten a .500 team.

Haha. Squirm.

[Cheesehead Craig]

3-3 after we beat them. End of the game result was not a winning team. Same with Chicago.

Too funny.

Is it not true? Dude, I'm stating facts that I've heard during Packer games by the announcers, when looking at the teams, they were clearly NOT .500 after the game. Therefore, after the Packers played the team, they had not beaten a .500 team.
You're wrong so just admit it and move on. Your shit is so old.

[Partial]

This is just Silly. Shows how Pathetic people like Nick Collins are. Is anyone really surprised that Favre isn't playing at MVP level after missing camp and learning a new system? I doubt it. He's 39.

Look at last year, in an offense he knew, he took a team to overtime in the championship game. This year, that same team, is awful. Is it all a result of Brett Favre leaving? No, but a good chunk of it is.

With that said, you're essentially bragging that Favre is playing bad. Who cares, honestly. Are the Packers lighting it up? No!

The Jets record was worse than the Packers last year, and better this year. Clearly, there was a HUGE improvement in their organization, and a huge step back in ours. This is indisputable.

It's like you're the benchwarmer of the football team making fun of the kid who got cut. Sure, he didn't make the team, but you're still a loser for sitting on the bench not playing yourself.

"I'm glad we got rid of Brett Favre because HE is teh SUCK!!!! Nebermind the fact that our record is awful, our team is worse than his, and wtfbbq, but I hate him because he suckas and he sucks because I hate him!"

Perhaps people like who, who are overly obsessed with Favre, would prevent such sentiments that you disapprove of, from arising.

But just like in Bretts case, ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT.

Obsessed with Favre? How crystal clear can I make it that I don't give a shit one way or another. I think Aaron Rodgers - read not Brett Favre - is a journeyman quarterback.

Brett played a bad game today. How is that someone elses fault? Fuck off guy. You're grasping at strings that aren't there.

[Bretsky]

I wouldn't doubt if Mangini is fired after the season. Talk about horrible coaching today, wow. Especially not punting on the last possession that would allow Seattle to get a FG anyhow....just DUMB

Coles and Bubba also dropped balls on plays that would have been big gains. The Jets lost as a team today, that's for sure. On the other hand, you've got to give the Seahawk's credit, they were hell bent on winning that game for Holmgren.


The drop by Bubba may have been the game right there; it's hilarious that haters will show up with their needles every time he falls.

[Bretsky]

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record when playing them. Don't cloud the facts.

Silly and meaningless. Also, it's wrong. Indianapolis was 3-2 when we beat them.

Gosh we beat Indy; that seems seasons ago but boy were we optimistic on this team at that point.

[pack4to84]

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER beaten a team with a winning record when playing them. Don't cloud the facts.

Silly and meaningless. Also, it's wrong. Indianapolis was 3-2 when we beat them.

3-3 after we beat them. End of the game result was not a winning team. Same with Chicago.your wrong we beat a team that was 3-2 and 5-4 the next team that plays them are playing a .500 team. We beat a team that was .600 and .555 winning percent.

[RashanGary]

The drop by Bubba may have been the game right there; it's hilarious that haters will show up with their needles every time he falls.


There are a few posters here who don't talk anythign Packer. Mobb Deep, 007, Partial, Paco and I'm sure I'm missing one or two others.

They spend their entire time posting in the Favre thread or rip rodgers and take every opportunity to cut at TT (the Packers GM that many here really like). These people do not deserve any mercy. As far as I"m concerned if all they care about is Brett fAvre they should find a Jets forum to discuss it because what they do is trolling here.

LIke I said a couple days ago. I'm more than happy to take it, but it goes both ways and everyone will have their day.

[Bretsky]

The drop by Bubba may have been the game right there; it's hilarious that haters will show up with their needles every time he falls.


There are a few posters here who don't talk anythign Packer. Mobb Deep, 007, Partial, Paco and I'm sure I'm missing one or two others.

They spend their entire time posting in the Favre thread or rip rodgers and take every opportunity to cut at TT (the Packers GM that many here really like). These people do not deserve any mercy. As far as I"m concerned if all they care about is Brett fAvre they should find a Jets forum to discuss it because what they do is trolling here.

LIke I said a couple days ago. I'm more than happy to take it, but it goes both ways and everyone will have their day.


for what it's worth I don't really find you to be a hater

[pack4to84]

TT is looking like a genius for getting no worst then a 3rd for a washed up QB. I can't imagine another GM getting that high of a pick for 39+ QB.

[Bretsky]

this is kind of humorous

http://forums.theganggreen.com//showthread.php?t=40074